Topic: Does rape culture actually exist?
Anonymous A started this discussion 10 years ago #52,398
And if it does, is it natural?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #683,602
What does it mean first?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,603
@previous (B)
Human tribal society has been mostly a patriarchy and the men whenever they crave sexual intercourse or to pregnant a woman they would just take her and rape her. This is an evolutionary strategy for survival.
Human tribal society has been mostly a patriarchy and the men whenever they crave sexual intercourse or to pregnant a woman they would just take her and rape her. This is an evolutionary strategy for survival.
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,607
@previous (A)
Wow. I'll stay out of this one then
I hope not.
I don't know what your patriarchy label means if you want to explain that too.
Wow. I'll stay out of this one then
I hope not.
I don't know what your patriarchy label means if you want to explain that too.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,609
Yes, it does and it is terrifying. I wouldn't say the desire to procreate isn't unnatural and many animals do it in the wild but we are not wild fucking animals. Why would you subject somebody to such a horrible thing? We are human beings with consciousnesses and empathy. People who rape are nothing but monsters and deserved to be raped in prison repeatedly, and will be if anyone who had a friend or spouse who was raped ever get their hands on them.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 second later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,610
@683,607 (B)
> Patriarchy
> A system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line.
> Patriarchy
> A system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line.
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,613
button joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,614
@683,609 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
no, lets not use rape as a threat or punishment And pls don't contribute to the normalization of prison rape. this is also rape culture
rape is rape, its bad, nobody deserves it
no, lets not use rape as a threat or punishment And pls don't contribute to the normalization of prison rape. this is also rape culture
rape is rape, its bad, nobody deserves it
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,619
Maddy !kCITGirlXc joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 42 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,620
The survival of the human race has changed. We're at the top of the food chain, with no natural predators. We live past 30, and rarely die from diseases that killed many way back when. Even if someone does die, it's usually someone very young, someone very old, or someone with very poor health. There are too many humans as is, and rape is never the right answer.
@683,614 (button)
Also, this.
@683,614 (button)
Also, this.
more positive squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,632
@683,603 (A)
except for all the evidence that points to pre-agricultural societies that revered women for their ability to give birth. art from the period was generally 2 things, fertility statues and paintings of hunts and animals. the paintings were likely to have been used as part of rituals to guarantee a successful hunt, and the fertility statues were for helping a woman to get pregnant. the act of getting pregnant, at least, was one of the first kinds of human experiences to become the center of rituals and worship. there was a pretty deep respect for women in ancient tribal cultures, they were very well cared for and treated with respect to the point of some cultures deifying them. women often died during child birth, so getting pregnant would have implied a great amount of risk and birth would have frequently been a very solemn ordeal with death rituals being performed immediately after birth rituals. mothers could have been seen as trading their lives for another, and as early humans began to develop culture, art, worship and war many "survival strategies" became invalid in civilized agricultural communities.
pretty much rape existed pre-civilization and was successful in the same way that gorillas may take mates as they please (but note that even male gorillas can be stopped from "rape" by female gorillas, it's not unusual in the animal kingdom for a female to reject the mating and turn away the male.), but with the rise of agricultural communities women began to lose their power, respect and place in society. women being seen as merely objects to be used for rape or whatever is a much more modern problem.
tl;dr human ancestors and early humans would have mated like animals but at some point like 60k years ago at the beginning of "human culture" women became revered and then much, much later with the birth of agriculture women lost their station and the "patriarchy" started calling "rape" equivalent to "animal mating" and thus "natural"
except for all the evidence that points to pre-agricultural societies that revered women for their ability to give birth. art from the period was generally 2 things, fertility statues and paintings of hunts and animals. the paintings were likely to have been used as part of rituals to guarantee a successful hunt, and the fertility statues were for helping a woman to get pregnant. the act of getting pregnant, at least, was one of the first kinds of human experiences to become the center of rituals and worship. there was a pretty deep respect for women in ancient tribal cultures, they were very well cared for and treated with respect to the point of some cultures deifying them. women often died during child birth, so getting pregnant would have implied a great amount of risk and birth would have frequently been a very solemn ordeal with death rituals being performed immediately after birth rituals. mothers could have been seen as trading their lives for another, and as early humans began to develop culture, art, worship and war many "survival strategies" became invalid in civilized agricultural communities.
pretty much rape existed pre-civilization and was successful in the same way that gorillas may take mates as they please (but note that even male gorillas can be stopped from "rape" by female gorillas, it's not unusual in the animal kingdom for a female to reject the mating and turn away the male.), but with the rise of agricultural communities women began to lose their power, respect and place in society. women being seen as merely objects to be used for rape or whatever is a much more modern problem.
tl;dr human ancestors and early humans would have mated like animals but at some point like 60k years ago at the beginning of "human culture" women became revered and then much, much later with the birth of agriculture women lost their station and the "patriarchy" started calling "rape" equivalent to "animal mating" and thus "natural"
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #683,637
@previous (more positive squeegee)
Its like going back to the beginning where incest was normal for procreation. Later after so many genetic defective births occurred, people wised up.
There will always be sociopaths which means there will always be crimes of many kinds. Rape is one of the most horrible crimes sociopaths commit.
Its like going back to the beginning where incest was normal for procreation. Later after so many genetic defective births occurred, people wised up.
There will always be sociopaths which means there will always be crimes of many kinds. Rape is one of the most horrible crimes sociopaths commit.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,645
@683,619 (E)
> Are you telling me that pedophiles do not deserve to be raped in prison?
Thats exactly what I'm saying
Nobody deserves to get raped
> Are you telling me that pedophiles do not deserve to be raped in prison?
Thats exactly what I'm saying
Nobody deserves to get raped
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,646
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@683,609 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
The fact that someone could get a vengeance erection in order to rape a rapist is terrifying to me
The fact that someone could get a vengeance erection in order to rape a rapist is terrifying to me
button replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,655
@683,649 (Not Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> Even if they did deserve it, innocent people end up in prison
the fuck are you talking about
> Even if they did deserve it, innocent people end up in prison
the fuck are you talking about
button double-posted this 10 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,656
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,657
@683,651 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
Erections do happen for other reasons than just sexual excitement. They happen to me at often convenient moments and I have no clue why. Always been that way. I just thank the many Gods they have never happened at the many nude beaches and resorts I have frequented. Once while mountain climbing and in total fear of a fall re a slip that was dicey as all fuck - felt my life slipping away from me and sure enough an erection. I had to slap that sucker as hard as fuck against hard rock to stay alive.
Erections do happen for other reasons than just sexual excitement. They happen to me at often convenient moments and I have no clue why. Always been that way. I just thank the many Gods they have never happened at the many nude beaches and resorts I have frequented. Once while mountain climbing and in total fear of a fall re a slip that was dicey as all fuck - felt my life slipping away from me and sure enough an erection. I had to slap that sucker as hard as fuck against hard rock to stay alive.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,659
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,665
@previous (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
I have. It happens to guys when they get in fights too. You know those fights where one dude is so pissed he is crying? Probably has a hard on. It is actually really convenient not getting them anymore.
I have. It happens to guys when they get in fights too. You know those fights where one dude is so pissed he is crying? Probably has a hard on. It is actually really convenient not getting them anymore.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,666
@previous (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
> I have. It happens to guys when they get in fights too. You know those fights where one dude is so pissed he is crying? Probably has a hard on. It is actually really convenient not getting them anymore.
What the fuck
> I have. It happens to guys when they get in fights too. You know those fights where one dude is so pissed he is crying? Probably has a hard on. It is actually really convenient not getting them anymore.
What the fuck
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,668
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,670
The Council of Dereks !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,672
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #683,677
@683,659 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
Not aware if I have. Betting rapists do have those. Also I do not get very angry very often. Pissed off yes but really angry? Nah
Not aware if I have. Betting rapists do have those. Also I do not get very angry very often. Pissed off yes but really angry? Nah
button replied with this 10 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,681
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,683
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,685
@683,681 (button)
I have been. I had to learn to fight in my area. Kids are foul creatures.
Well there is a really good reason you don't buttons.
I don't get weird boners either anymore, Estrogen is a funny thing it is relaxing and chaotic.
I have been. I had to learn to fight in my area. Kids are foul creatures.
Well there is a really good reason you don't buttons.
I don't get weird boners either anymore, Estrogen is a funny thing it is relaxing and chaotic.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,687
I don't think it does as a culture. Any more than, say, people stealing car stereos is caused by "burglary culture" or shootings are caused by "murder culture". Certainly criminals rape and steal car stereos and murder people and these are all terrible deeds deserving of punishment but I don't think it's a culture.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,691
Timber Nigger !faggot joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,695
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,698
@683,687 (Metæ)
I disagree with you, it is a culture. Women should be able to leave their home without having to fear every time they go out that there is some monster out there waiting. It is something that women consciously consider every single time they go and interact with the public. They have to fear being taken advantage of constantly.
I disagree with you, it is a culture. Women should be able to leave their home without having to fear every time they go out that there is some monster out there waiting. It is something that women consciously consider every single time they go and interact with the public. They have to fear being taken advantage of constantly.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,706
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 41 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,713
@683,695 (Timber Nigger !faggot)
@683,691 (button)
Do you have, like, an actual counterargument or constructive criticism? Or just "omg i cant even"?
@683,691 (button)
Do you have, like, an actual counterargument or constructive criticism? Or just "omg i cant even"?
Metæ double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,714
@683,698 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
I agree it's a terrible crime and something no woman should be a victim of but how is it a culture? They're acts of violence committed by individual men who bear responsibility for their crimes.
I agree it's a terrible crime and something no woman should be a victim of but how is it a culture? They're acts of violence committed by individual men who bear responsibility for their crimes.
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,715
You'd find out if you went to prison.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,716
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,717
@683,706 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
Are you just always going to act like that? You seem to not realize that I have a huge target painted on the back of my shirt now that says "TRANNY!" that says do all sorts of awful things just because you can? Right now I can still present as a man but one day that's going to start failing and some people are going to be pissed off. I have to consider this shit too now.
@683,714 (Metæ)
There is a culture though, do you honestly not see it? Where boys will be boys when it comes to doing all sorts of shit to women and getting away with it? For years men have and women were just expected to take it and accept that was part of life.
Are you just always going to act like that? You seem to not realize that I have a huge target painted on the back of my shirt now that says "TRANNY!" that says do all sorts of awful things just because you can? Right now I can still present as a man but one day that's going to start failing and some people are going to be pissed off. I have to consider this shit too now.
@683,714 (Metæ)
There is a culture though, do you honestly not see it? Where boys will be boys when it comes to doing all sorts of shit to women and getting away with it? For years men have and women were just expected to take it and accept that was part of life.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,719
@previous (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
I'm not going to turn this into another gender topic. I'll just sit on this for a while.
I'm not going to turn this into another gender topic. I'll just sit on this for a while.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,720
Timber African American !faggot replied with this 10 years ago, 3 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,721
@683,713 (Metæ)
I used to engage with you about these things.
But you're laughably wrong about everything. It's more fun to ugh.
Ugh.
I used to engage with you about these things.
But you're laughably wrong about everything. It's more fun to ugh.
Ugh.
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,724
@683,720 (button)
Thanks for being so helpful.
@previous (Timber African American !faggot)
Why am I the groan worthy one when your name contains the words "nigger" and "faggot"?
Thanks for being so helpful.
@previous (Timber African American !faggot)
Why am I the groan worthy one when your name contains the words "nigger" and "faggot"?
Timber African American !faggot replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,725
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,726
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,727
@previous (Metæ)
Why can't you see it? There is a rape culture among men that needs to be addressed.
Why can't you see it? There is a rape culture among men that needs to be addressed.
Timber African American !faggot replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,728
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 19 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,730
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,731
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,732
@previous (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
It's true. All males are raised in this rape culture to see women as objects and exploit their males privilege. It's sad that in such times, females can't get one safe space away from this extremely toxic masculinity.
When I leave the house, I know that anyone with a dick could be a rapist because they were raised in a boys will be boys club, that says that women's fears are irrational.
It's true. All males are raised in this rape culture to see women as objects and exploit their males privilege. It's sad that in such times, females can't get one safe space away from this extremely toxic masculinity.
When I leave the house, I know that anyone with a dick could be a rapist because they were raised in a boys will be boys club, that says that women's fears are irrational.
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RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,734
Rape is natural as it's found in the animal Kingdom. It can also be a good thing for women unwilling to use their womb.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 16 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,735
As all of you males in this thread were socialized to accept your role in Americas rape culture, you all have a good chance of one day, raping a defenseless female. Why can't you keep your dicks to yourselves?
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,738
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 24 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,739
Now whenever I see a dick, I think about how so many males on this very board have probably raped women and it saddens me.
Why do you all have to act like slavering,tumescent centaurs?
Why do you all have to act like slavering,tumescent centaurs?
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 double-posted this 10 years ago, 36 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,740
RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU replied with this 10 years ago, 20 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,741
@683,735 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
I sure hope so and as I've said it's because it's natural. Not only is it found in the animal Kingdom but tribes of man have been raping for thousands of years for the benefit of their own tribe.
I sure hope so and as I've said it's because it's natural. Not only is it found in the animal Kingdom but tribes of man have been raping for thousands of years for the benefit of their own tribe.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 59 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,743
@683,735 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
They all have a good chance? No I doubt it because most of the people here aren't dick monsters using their rape penises.
They all have a good chance? No I doubt it because most of the people here aren't dick monsters using their rape penises.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 10 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,744
@683,741 (RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU)
That's very true. It is natural for someone who has a dick to get lust drunk and mount unwilling females like so many angry dogs.
That's very true. It is natural for someone who has a dick to get lust drunk and mount unwilling females like so many angry dogs.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 double-posted this 10 years ago, 48 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,745
@683,743 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
But they were all raised as men with dicks in this culture that says that rape is okay.
But they were all raised as men with dicks in this culture that says that rape is okay.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,746
@683,740 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
I do see the issue Kook and it saddens me but all men are not like that and assuming such just does damage to yourself. You are right though. Men are raised in an enviroment where they view women as their objects.
I do see the issue Kook and it saddens me but all men are not like that and assuming such just does damage to yourself. You are right though. Men are raised in an enviroment where they view women as their objects.
RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU replied with this 10 years ago, 30 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,747
@683,744 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
We often think nature is beautiful but not always and rape is natural. Nature doesn't take into account the feelings of women receiving the raping which is why women latch into strong men and are more focused on social grouping
We often think nature is beautiful but not always and rape is natural. Nature doesn't take into account the feelings of women receiving the raping which is why women latch into strong men and are more focused on social grouping
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 48 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,748
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 18 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,749
@683,746 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
But how are we to know which penis people are rapists? They don't come with a label. So the only sensible approach is treating all males with caution. You can't be too safe.
But how are we to know which penis people are rapists? They don't come with a label. So the only sensible approach is treating all males with caution. You can't be too safe.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 double-posted this 10 years ago, 32 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,750
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 triple-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,751
@683,748 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
I just hope that bio males will someday understand that females don't like being in and are not safe being in, vulnerable situations around males. Until that happens, we can never fix this rape culture.
I just hope that bio males will someday understand that females don't like being in and are not safe being in, vulnerable situations around males. Until that happens, we can never fix this rape culture.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,752
@683,749 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
It is actually kind of sad that you are right. I guess I am sad because I realize all of the people who are going to victimize me are going to be males. I never really had to think about it in a gendered way.
It is actually kind of sad that you are right. I guess I am sad because I realize all of the people who are going to victimize me are going to be males. I never really had to think about it in a gendered way.
RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,753
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,755
@683,752 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
You might victimize someone as well, if you have not already. We're supposed to assume that you'll stay on your erection killers like a proper lady, but how can one know? Many women identified males will be using women's facilities while not on any medications at all and that's where the problem lies.
Male privilege and rape culture makes everyone who has a penis doubt women and their safety issues. Ignore these dicks, they say. We are some of the good ones. But these same trans women have been raised just as cis men have been raised.
To commit and condone rape.
You might victimize someone as well, if you have not already. We're supposed to assume that you'll stay on your erection killers like a proper lady, but how can one know? Many women identified males will be using women's facilities while not on any medications at all and that's where the problem lies.
Male privilege and rape culture makes everyone who has a penis doubt women and their safety issues. Ignore these dicks, they say. We are some of the good ones. But these same trans women have been raised just as cis men have been raised.
To commit and condone rape.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 double-posted this 10 years ago, 49 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,756
@683,753 (RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU)
Nexus is just as likely to rape a female as any other male, but doesn't know it. It's called a dick in the brain.
Nexus is just as likely to rape a female as any other male, but doesn't know it. It's called a dick in the brain.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 23 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,757
@683,753 (RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU)
You honestly think I won't? One in two transwomen are sexually abused or molested at some point and up to 66% experience some form of sexual assault.
You honestly think I won't? One in two transwomen are sexually abused or molested at some point and up to 66% experience some form of sexual assault.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs double-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,759
@683,753 (RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU)
in 2009 over 50% of all sexual assault cases against LGBTIQA people were against transgender people, the other half? men.
in 2009 over 50% of all sexual assault cases against LGBTIQA people were against transgender people, the other half? men.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs triple-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,761
@683,755 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
You literally do not understand how this works kook. These aren't magic pills. You really need to educate yourself on how all of this works.
@683,756 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
Mine. does. not. work.
You literally do not understand how this works kook. These aren't magic pills. You really need to educate yourself on how all of this works.
@683,756 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
Mine. does. not. work.
RapeGuy !o3J04Yr4LU replied with this 10 years ago, 43 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,763
@683,757 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
@683,759 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
The type of rape they or you face is from degenerates looking for a thrill if you chose to mix with those people by visiting online hook ups or clubs. You have a choice. You don't have a womb so will never be a victim of natural rape from a mens desire to increase his number
@683,759 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
The type of rape they or you face is from degenerates looking for a thrill if you chose to mix with those people by visiting online hook ups or clubs. You have a choice. You don't have a womb so will never be a victim of natural rape from a mens desire to increase his number
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 5 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,764
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,765
@683,761 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
Yes I understand that they aren't magic pills. Magic pills would completely wipe all of the toxic masculinity out of your brain and body
Also trans women fiddle around to ensure that they can have breasts and working dicks. Everyone here has seen this.
Yes I understand that they aren't magic pills. Magic pills would completely wipe all of the toxic masculinity out of your brain and body
Also trans women fiddle around to ensure that they can have breasts and working dicks. Everyone here has seen this.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 double-posted this 10 years ago, 21 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,766
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 42 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,767
@683,764 (Metæ)
I did that statistic wrong. It is people who die from sexual assault. sorry.
http://www.ovc.gov/pubs/forge/sexual_numbers.html#hate_crimes
I did that statistic wrong. It is people who die from sexual assault. sorry.
http://www.ovc.gov/pubs/forge/sexual_numbers.html#hate_crimes
button joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 15 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,768
Good Lord
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 51 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,769
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 8 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,770
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 43 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,772
@683,767 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
I see. I wasn't trying to imply anything or put words in your mouth, I was just puzzled.
I see. I wasn't trying to imply anything or put words in your mouth, I was just puzzled.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 18 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,773
@683,769 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
> Button please don't ever rape a female
Dont have to tell me twice or even this one time
> Button please don't ever rape a female
Dont have to tell me twice or even this one time
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 34 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,774
button replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,775
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,777
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 0 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,778
@683,717 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
> There is a culture though, do you honestly not see it? Where boys will be boys when it comes to doing all sorts of shit to women and getting away with it? For years men have and women were just expected to take it and accept that was part of life.
Let's look at it this way. Let's say 5% of men are rapists (this is a number I just pulled out of my ass and has no relation to reality). So in a group of 100 men, 5 are rapists and 95 are not rapists. If you polled the 95 not-rapists I think you would find they think rape is wrong. If you asked the 5 rapists, they would presumably think rape is okay. That doesn't mean that every man thinks rape is 5% okay.
> There is a culture though, do you honestly not see it? Where boys will be boys when it comes to doing all sorts of shit to women and getting away with it? For years men have and women were just expected to take it and accept that was part of life.
Let's look at it this way. Let's say 5% of men are rapists (this is a number I just pulled out of my ass and has no relation to reality). So in a group of 100 men, 5 are rapists and 95 are not rapists. If you polled the 95 not-rapists I think you would find they think rape is wrong. If you asked the 5 rapists, they would presumably think rape is okay. That doesn't mean that every man thinks rape is 5% okay.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,779
button double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,780
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,781
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 32 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,782
@683,779 (button)
But you still have a penis. Therefore you might rape someone one day if you haven't yet.
But you still have a penis. Therefore you might rape someone one day if you haven't yet.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,783
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button replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,786
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,787
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 19 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,788
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,793
@683,787 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
Look, I'd really like to discuss this and I'm even willing to admit I may be wrong. I want to be open minded and have a discussion but content-free replies like "ugh" are completely unhelpful.
Look, I'd really like to discuss this and I'm even willing to admit I may be wrong. I want to be open minded and have a discussion but content-free replies like "ugh" are completely unhelpful.
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,794
@683,778 (Metæ)
ugh
ok the problem is that they just don't think of their actions as rape
"she teased me but wouldn't put out and I couldn't control myself"
and it is pretty much tacitly condoned by large groups in society
ugh
ok the problem is that they just don't think of their actions as rape
"she teased me but wouldn't put out and I couldn't control myself"
and it is pretty much tacitly condoned by large groups in society
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 38 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,795
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,796
@previous (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
This is like asking a technical question and being told to RTFM.
@683,794 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> ok the problem is that they just don't think of their actions as rape
> "she teased me but wouldn't put out and I couldn't control myself"
Yes, I can see that.
> and it is pretty much tacitly condoned by large groups in society
That's the part I don't agree with. I think most people recognize rape is wrong.
This is like asking a technical question and being told to RTFM.
@683,794 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> ok the problem is that they just don't think of their actions as rape
> "she teased me but wouldn't put out and I couldn't control myself"
Yes, I can see that.
> and it is pretty much tacitly condoned by large groups in society
That's the part I don't agree with. I think most people recognize rape is wrong.
Metæ double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,797
@683,794 (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
As an analogy I imagine someone who broke into a car would say "well it wasn't really burglary he left his iPhone on the dashboard!" but I don't think burglaries are caused by a "burglary culture". There are just burglars and they need to be in jail.
As an analogy I imagine someone who broke into a car would say "well it wasn't really burglary he left his iPhone on the dashboard!" but I don't think burglaries are caused by a "burglary culture". There are just burglars and they need to be in jail.
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button replied with this 10 years ago, 57 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,798
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,799
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 27 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,800
@683,793 (Metæ)
Most people in America do think that rape is wrong. A small amount of people commit the majority of rapes.
Most people in America do think that rape is wrong. A small amount of people commit the majority of rapes.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 36 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,801
@683,796 (Metæ)
the problem there is that people debate what is/isn't rape. if a woman says 'i was raped' chances are she'll be met with 'prove it' or 'it wasn't actually rape' when it was rape
the problem there is that people debate what is/isn't rape. if a woman says 'i was raped' chances are she'll be met with 'prove it' or 'it wasn't actually rape' when it was rape
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,805
@previous (button)
But crimes do need to be proved to be prosecuted. Or do you mean when discussing things?
But crimes do need to be proved to be prosecuted. Or do you mean when discussing things?
button replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,806
@previous (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
the way sexual assault is handled in the court and by law enforcement is another discussion
i'm kind of riffing on metas dumbass '100 men in a room' hypothetical bullshit
the way sexual assault is handled in the court and by law enforcement is another discussion
i'm kind of riffing on metas dumbass '100 men in a room' hypothetical bullshit
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 8 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,807
@683,801 (button)
If a woman goes to the police saying she was raped, how often do the police not take it seriously?
If a woman goes to the police saying she was raped, how often do the police not take it seriously?
button replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,810
@previous (Metæ)
very often? a lot of time rape kits are just never processed
why are you asking me this you could google it and get a better answer
very often? a lot of time rape kits are just never processed
why are you asking me this you could google it and get a better answer
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,813
@683,796 (Metæ)
yes but then there is the whole "wow u weren't fighting for ur life that was not really rape" phenomenon
like a very large gray area where non consensual sex is ok because she teased him or wtvr
yes but then there is the whole "wow u weren't fighting for ur life that was not really rape" phenomenon
like a very large gray area where non consensual sex is ok because she teased him or wtvr
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,815
@683,796 (Metæ)
Most groups do see rape as the wrong thing to do. But in those same groups of men they will see women who wont "put out" as being wrong in some way.
Most groups do see rape as the wrong thing to do. But in those same groups of men they will see women who wont "put out" as being wrong in some way.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,816
@previous (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
You'll also see men who think it's okay when other men are raped in Prison
You'll also see men who think it's okay when other men are raped in Prison
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,818
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 51 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,819
@683,816 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
I honestly think that if someone who rapes another gets raped then they had it coming to them. I am sure most rapists are against being raped themselves.
I honestly think that if someone who rapes another gets raped then they had it coming to them. I am sure most rapists are against being raped themselves.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 12 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,820
I think that it we really were in a rape culture than people who make false rape claims wouldn't get off Scot free.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,821
@683,810 (button)
Here in my county rape kits take 6 months. That is even if they are processed. When we call 911 we get a recording about how we shouldn't hang up, that there will be a dispatcher who will be with us shortly and to get to a safe place.
Here in my county rape kits take 6 months. That is even if they are processed. When we call 911 we get a recording about how we shouldn't hang up, that there will be a dispatcher who will be with us shortly and to get to a safe place.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 0 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,822
@683,819 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
So you'd be making more rapists. You'd be rewarding males who can get vengeance erections, by giving them free ass.
So you'd be making more rapists. You'd be rewarding males who can get vengeance erections, by giving them free ass.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 double-posted this 10 years ago, 52 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,823
@683,821 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
But the 911 thing is likely for all crimes that are not currently happening.
But the 911 thing is likely for all crimes that are not currently happening.
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,824
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,825
@683,823 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
There should be another person on the god damn line! Not a god damn robot!
There should be another person on the god damn line! Not a god damn robot!
button replied with this 10 years ago, 48 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,826
@683,818 (Metæ)
> Well, you're the expert aren't you?
no, but you can pretend i am so that if i slip up you can rub my nose in it! asshole
> Well, you're the expert aren't you?
no, but you can pretend i am so that if i slip up you can rub my nose in it! asshole
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 11 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,827
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 double-posted this 10 years ago, 41 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,828
@683,824 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
Of course the should be locked up. But people in prison shouldn't be raped.
Of course the should be locked up. But people in prison shouldn't be raped.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 10 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,829
@683,824 (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
> Keep them locked up then. People like that cannot be rehabilitated.
that's not a nice attitude either
y'all are always 'lock everyone up!' 'rape everyone!' 'kill pedophiles!' 'no rehabilitation!'
> Keep them locked up then. People like that cannot be rehabilitated.
that's not a nice attitude either
y'all are always 'lock everyone up!' 'rape everyone!' 'kill pedophiles!' 'no rehabilitation!'
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 20 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,830
button replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,832
@previous (Metæ)
no, i was just posting ugh until you urged me to stop
then i posted like a single serious reply
and then you snidely called me an expert
dumbass
no, i was just posting ugh until you urged me to stop
then i posted like a single serious reply
and then you snidely called me an expert
dumbass
FROOTY !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,836
@683,829 (button)
I feel that people who victimize should feel what they have wrought onto others and you are right it really isn't and I need to work on it.
I feel that people who victimize should feel what they have wrought onto others and you are right it really isn't and I need to work on it.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 12 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,965
chili dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #683,997
Nexi !xfIrebiRDs replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #684,097
@previous (chili dog !!81dzJNNYL)
It is and I understand that. It is an unhealthy attitude and I am trying to change that, but it is how I actually feel.
It is and I understand that. It is an unhealthy attitude and I am trying to change that, but it is how I actually feel.
Nexi !91eLLSFxh6 double-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #684,100
@683,965 (S)
No we are more. We have consciousness. We can make rational decisions, good or bad. Animal instincts do not control us, we choose to do whatever we choose to because we can make that choice. Saying we are animals and that it is merely "instinct" absolves the person from some responsibility and in reality they chose to do something terrible knowing it was wrong. That is what separates us from animals.
No we are more. We have consciousness. We can make rational decisions, good or bad. Animal instincts do not control us, we choose to do whatever we choose to because we can make that choice. Saying we are animals and that it is merely "instinct" absolves the person from some responsibility and in reality they chose to do something terrible knowing it was wrong. That is what separates us from animals.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #684,102
Nexi !91eLLSFxh6 replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #684,104
@previous (T)
We as humans. Those terrorists flying those planes into buildings made choices based on an irrational ideology. Not some animal instinct. They chose to hijack planes and crash them into towers to kill as many people as possible. Again, saying they were just animals absolves them of some responsibility when in reality they were in control of their choices that day, not their "instincts".
We as humans. Those terrorists flying those planes into buildings made choices based on an irrational ideology. Not some animal instinct. They chose to hijack planes and crash them into towers to kill as many people as possible. Again, saying they were just animals absolves them of some responsibility when in reality they were in control of their choices that day, not their "instincts".
adam djensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #684,188
doot
Anonymous S replied with this 10 years ago, 18 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #684,455
@684,100 (Nexi !91eLLSFxh6)
That's a pretty arbitrary line to draw
Homo sapiens is literally an animal
We literally live in the wild
We're wild animals man
That's a pretty arbitrary line to draw
Homo sapiens is literally an animal
We literally live in the wild
We're wild animals man