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Topic: Are fundamentalists being unfairly harassed by atheists?
Anonymous A started this discussion 10 years ago#52,361
We all know that fundies are intellectually inferior to atheists. So, when an atheist trolls a fundamentalist, isn't that the equivalent of a science teacher ridiculing a retard? Hardly seems like a level playing field, considering the enormous disability the fundies are laboring under.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later[^][v]#682,854
These days one gets more bang for the buck if we troll Towel Heads.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#682,857
@previous (B)
*Original post edited to include fundamentalists of all religious persuasions.
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^][v]#682,859
@previous (A)
Currently with US politics a lot of Christian fundamentalists are featured on cable news shows. I notice that many are fundamentalist atheists, because they have moved so far to the right, they no longer represent anything found in the bible. They may have even read the bible but they do not understand any of the words between the covers.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#682,863
@previous (B)
I'm not sure what you mean by "fundamentalist atheist". Do you mean atheists who hold politically conservative views?
button joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 13 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#682,864
durr
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 23 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#682,865
I mean they call themselves Christians and what they really are has nothing to do with the religion. Not trying to get off topic but its like Trump calling himself a Republican. Or even Bernie.
The party is just a cover so that they have an umbrella to run under.
A really good example of Fundamentalist atheist is the Westboro Baptist Church. Ultra right wing Christians and totally Fundamentalists with no connection to Jesus (Except as a cover to call themselves a church for tax exemption) So they are really atheists. They however are not self aware that they do not believe in Jesus teachings. Hitler had exactly that same problem.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 21 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^][v]#682,891
@previous (B)
WBC are not atheists. They believe in a god, regardless of how they interpret their scriptures.
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^][v]#682,892
@previous (A)
Hitler said he believed in Jesus. Does not make it so.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#682,898
@previous (B)
Hitler was deeply religious, bud. Hell, I have a feeling he felt that by killing the Jews he was avenging the death of Jesus.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#682,899
@682,892 (B)
Hitler believed he had been chosen by a divine force to lead Germany back to greatness. He was not an atheist.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#682,909
@previous (Sheila LaBoof) > We all know that fundies are intellectually inferior to atheists. So, when an atheist trolls a fundamentalist, isn't that the equivalent of a science teacher ridiculing a retard?
Answer the question. Thanks.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#682,910
@682,899 (A)
He believed he was chosen by "PROVIDENCE." Much like Napoleon. Hitler banned most atheist groups in Germany due to their connection with Bolshevism. After he came to power he allowed himself to be instated as a "religious" figure. The closest religion the nazis could of supported was norse/germanic paganism or sun worship. Hitler had hoped that science would wear away religion and replace it as the core belief of Germans. Ultimately hitler would have been considered "Gottgläubig" or a deist around 1939. Afterwards who knows if Hitler drank his own Kool-Aid and became a believer in his own myth.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. double-posted this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,914
@682,898 (D)
Hitler did not care about Jesus IMO. His hatred of Jews was not based on Christianity. He believed the Jews had betrayed Germany in WWI and allowed the Germans to lose and be subjected to the Treaty of Versailles which he believed they supported. He believed a Jewish Power was dominating politics in Germany and around the world. Including here in the US. As well this Jewish power had robbed Germany after WWI and had destroyed the economy by "stealing" Germany's "wealth" from the country taking it to France and other countries in Europe. He goes over this in great depth in Mein Kampf.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,915
@682,910 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
According to most dictionary definitions, "Providence" means either god or divine guidance. However, all of that is beside the point. Perhaps we should stop splitting hairs and just answer the question:
When an atheist trolls a fundamentalist, isn't that the equivalent of a science teacher ridiculing a retard?
Antikhristos !M6R0eWkIpk joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,916
@previous (A)
Post pics of your fedora and opera cape or GTFO.
Nexi !jNexusRe/. replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,918
@682,915 (A)
I would use the definition divine guidance when describing Hitler's providence.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,920
@previous (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
If he believed in "divine guidance", then he wasn't an atheist. Now answer the question:
When an atheist trolls a fundamentalist, isn't that the equivalent of a science teacher ridiculing a retard?
Nexi !jNexusRe/. replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,929
@previous (A)
I am not going to answer your question because you are assuming religious people are idiots when instead it is angry neckbeards. Quit assuming you are superior because of your lack of faith. That is rude and a dickhead thing to assume.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,931
@previous (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
No, I'm presuming that it's wrong for a smart person to ridicule the beliefs of an imbicile. People have the right to believe what they want to - free of harassment and mockery - no matter how asinine or idiotic they happen to be.
Nexi !jNexusRe/. replied with this 10 years ago, 15 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,936
@previous (A)
I bet you feel so superior calling religious people retards. There are plenty of christians who are scientists and are highly educated but you do not consider that.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,937
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,938
@682,936 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
I haven't referred to all religious people as simpletons, just the fundamentalists. Any "scientist" who claims the Earth is less than 10,000 years old should not be considered a scientist. Thanks.
Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#682,975
@682,938 (A)
It seems like you're baiting, but if Nexi wants to have an argument, then far be it from me to stop it from happening. I've happily dived into obvious trollbait before just because I wanted to see how far it could go.
(Edited 59 seconds later.)
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 56 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,001
> >We all know that fundies are intellectually inferior to atheists. So, when an atheist trolls a fundamentalist, isn't that the equivalent of a science teacher ridiculing a retard? > > Answer the question. Thanks.
oh you, my post was a reply to the post by B
why don't you get on his ass instead
(Edited 4 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,003
A survey of scientists who are members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press in May and June 2009, finds that members of this group are, on the whole, much less religious than the general public.1 Indeed, the survey shows that scientists are roughly half as likely as the general public to believe in God or a higher power. According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006. Specifically, more than eight-in-ten Americans (83%) say they believe in God and 12% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. Finally, the poll of scientists finds that four-in-ten scientists (41%) say they do not believe in God or a higher power, while the poll of the public finds that only 4% of Americans share this view.
"More than half of scientists in India, Italy, Taiwan and Turkey self-identify as religious," Ecklund said. "And it's striking that approximately twice as many 'convinced atheists' exist in the general population of Hong Kong, for example, (55 percent) compared with the scientific community in this region (26 percent)."
The researchers did find that scientists are generally less religious than a given general population. However, there were exceptions to this: 39 percent of scientists in Hong Kong identify as religious compared with 20 percent of the general population of Hong Kong, and 54 percent of scientists in Taiwan identify as religious compared with 44 percent of the general population of Taiwan. Ecklund noted that such patterns challenge longstanding assumptions about the irreligious character of scientists around the world.
When asked about terms of conflict between religion and science, Ecklund noted that only a minority of scientists in each regional context believe that science and religion are in conflict. In the U.K. - one of the most secular countries studied - only 32 percent of scientists characterized the science-faith interface as one of conflict. In the U.S., this number was only 29 percent. And 25 percent of Hong Kong scientists, 27 percent of Indian scientists and 23 percent of Taiwanese scientists believed science and religion can coexist and be used to help each other.
lost soul replied with this 10 years ago, 20 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,235
@previous (Syntax)
Yes I agree that scientists are not as religious as the general population but there are more religious/spiritual scientists than atheist ones
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,236
@previous (lost soul)
Maybe so, but how many of them believe that the planet Earth was created in six days? We're talking about fundies in this thread. Please try to stay on topic.
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,241
@previous (A) > Maybe so, but how many of them believe that the planet Earth was created in six days?
Quality point - On topic wood be how many Scientists are Fundies?
"The Oxford Dictionary of the Social Sciences defines fundamentalism as “a movement that asserts the primacy of religious values in social and political life and calls for a return to a ‘fundamental' or pure form of religion”"
Generally Scientists support Darwin's work - Doubt it works for a Science person to support all that much from a book that does not even include Dinosaurs.
lost soul replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,243
adam djensen replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,248
@683,202 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
that's true. i guess you don't know since you are new here but i am a badass.
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,251
@683,243 (lost soul)
If you re-read the topic you can see you and OP have a conflict - You believe in a God, not sure which of the many Gods. OP does not.
One of your Egyptian Goddess is - Well she is.
LoL
lost soul replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,254
@previous (B)
It's God, the one God that made everything, every religion believes this, even the ones with many gods have one head God above all, Idk why that is hard to fathom
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,255
@previous (lost soul)
Its just not fair. Once there were quality Gods of Rome and Greece - India has multiple and for sure your relatives had so many Gods. Then all of a sudden dem Jews come along and who wood no that people wood march step in line to all of a sudden just One God. How did dem Jews figure out only One God? Nor do dem jews even believe in Heaven or Hell. The top Jews don't even watch TV or Movies or use the internet - Lot of Good they are getting out of their God - They do party every Friday night with a quality dinner. But don't try calling them on the phone or push their doorbell cause on Friday night n Saturday 4Get about it.
lost soul replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,257
And how long has humanity believed and understood spiritual concepts man?
I'm no even part of any religion, especially new as fuck religions
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,259
@previous (lost soul) > How old is Christianity? Easy to keep track of 2016 years
Better question is how long people believe in just one God - That's only about 3500 years
> And how old is humanity? About 200,000 years or so - So you can see that the belief in One God is rather a NEW Idea
> And how long has humanity believed and understood spiritual concepts man?
Damn well hell I do not have that answer in my head nor do I think that is so much easy to answer. Cave man did rock art that shows signs of spiritual concepts but they also must have bowed down when lighting struck -
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,266
I have not stated any position on that subject one way or another. Thanks.
Anonymous B replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,268
@previous (A)
Ah ok I now see that. Its Friday PM on the early side n time for me to call it FRIDAY night fun night - and damn hung up on another site waiting for a reply Grrrrr
Nexi !jNexusRe/. replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#683,332
@683,164 (button) > Literally didn't understand what I said.
All of the people who believe jesus was white are white.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#683,352
Nexi !fIREbIRDzU replied with this 10 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#683,353
@previous (A)
I don't think so. I just think she wasn't paying attention.
Nexi !fIREbIRDzU double-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#683,354
@683,352 (A)
How do you think white fundamental racist Christians would feel about praying to a black man. That would blow their fucking minds and they cannot comprehend that so they do not. Ask a fundie if they would pray to a black jesus, they will argue with you.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 37 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#683,366
@previous (Nexi !fIREbIRDzU)
I don't doubt you on that. However, Button is still an idiot.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#683,383
button replied with this 10 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#683,409
@previous (Nexi !xfIrebiRDs)
would you trade your piece of bismuth for a piece of volcanic glass I found at the mouth of this volcano where my ma grew up
it's small but has a cool story I met a guy whose dad got thrown into the volcano
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#683,413