Topic: i'm giving fallout 4 another shot
hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc started this discussion 10 years ago #52,167
i played it when it first came out and it was ok but i didn't like it as much as new vegas, or even 3 for that matter. it just felt like more of the same. but i'm bored and i'm waiting for final fantasy x/x-2 remastered to unlock on steam so i figured i'd give fallout 4 another try
> blog status: updated
anyway what did u all think of fallout 4
> blog status: updated
anyway what did u all think of fallout 4
buttons joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #679,322
it was ok but not as good as new Vegas
But I liked building shacks
But I liked building shacks
hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #679,325
buttons replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #679,329
@previous (hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc)
i built a wall around a gas station and it wouldn't let me build any more and the survival update made gameplay kind of tedious and fucked up mods and i kinda stopped playing
i built a wall around a gas station and it wouldn't let me build any more and the survival update made gameplay kind of tedious and fucked up mods and i kinda stopped playing
hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #679,332
lollost soul joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #679,336
fallout 3 is best
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,398
ro4r squeegee and kl overhyped fo4, that shit was dumb as fuck. I'm glad I only pirated it because I didn't play it for more than a couple of hours
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,402
> Not playing Dark Souls 3
Wew lad
Wew lad
lost soul replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,424
hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 41 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,429
lost soul replied with this 10 years ago, 15 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,441
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 48 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,461
Felt like Fallout 3.2. NV felt like Fallout 3.1. I'm done with this series.
buttons replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,675
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,686
@679,461 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I don't think it was quite that similar. Things were fairly overhauled. The dialogue system, character building, crafting and combat were all pretty different. That's to say nothing of the whole settlement creation and management mechanics, which were quite a major addition.
Though one major change I felt was worse was how using SPECIAL stats outside of combat was all but entirely removed. Charisma is literally the only thing that matters if you're talking to somebody, and there is hardly any use of SPECIAL stats to solve quests and puzzles and such. Add that to the more restrictive dialogue system, and roleplaying is very reduced.
I don't think it was quite that similar. Things were fairly overhauled. The dialogue system, character building, crafting and combat were all pretty different. That's to say nothing of the whole settlement creation and management mechanics, which were quite a major addition.
Though one major change I felt was worse was how using SPECIAL stats outside of combat was all but entirely removed. Charisma is literally the only thing that matters if you're talking to somebody, and there is hardly any use of SPECIAL stats to solve quests and puzzles and such. Add that to the more restrictive dialogue system, and roleplaying is very reduced.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,733
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,735
@679,675 (buttons)
It did to me. I never got out of the first mission/tutorial area because it felt like a reskinned fo3.
@679,686 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Idk I got to the part where the game lets you build the first settlement and I was just like "how is this different from FO3?". Walking around felt the same. Graphically it felt the same. Combat felt a little more refined i guess but not appreciably different. I just don't feel the difference.
It did to me. I never got out of the first mission/tutorial area because it felt like a reskinned fo3.
@679,686 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Idk I got to the part where the game lets you build the first settlement and I was just like "how is this different from FO3?". Walking around felt the same. Graphically it felt the same. Combat felt a little more refined i guess but not appreciably different. I just don't feel the difference.
button replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,739
adam djensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,744
@679,735 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
it did reuse assets and things, but that was because it was a third party spinoff. mechanically it is very much different. it pretty much made fo3 obsolete in my eyes.
it did reuse assets and things, but that was because it was a third party spinoff. mechanically it is very much different. it pretty much made fo3 obsolete in my eyes.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,746
@679,735 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It's kinda subtle, but, for me, the combat AI was way better. Enemies make heavy use of cover, they will retreat and hide if they can't get to you, they'll lay down suppressing fire to keep you pinned. Much better than the enemies in 3 and NV.
I don't want to go off on a whole tirade at you because you didn't enjoy it. That's totally fine. All I'm getting at is I think it's an oversimplification to call it a reskinned 3.
@679,733 (button)
It sure did, even after NV did it so well. :/
It's kinda subtle, but, for me, the combat AI was way better. Enemies make heavy use of cover, they will retreat and hide if they can't get to you, they'll lay down suppressing fire to keep you pinned. Much better than the enemies in 3 and NV.
I don't want to go off on a whole tirade at you because you didn't enjoy it. That's totally fine. All I'm getting at is I think it's an oversimplification to call it a reskinned 3.
@679,733 (button)
It sure did, even after NV did it so well. :/
button replied with this 10 years ago, 25 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,765
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
nv had all my favorite RPG mechanics and they just
Ripped em out :'(
nv had all my favorite RPG mechanics and they just
Ripped em out :'(
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,771
@previous (button)
Do you know about Pillars of Eternity? Obsidian, the guys who made NV, made it themselves via Kickstarter.
It has really great RPG mechanics, with your character being able to build up "personality traits" that unlock new responses and affect how people react to you. Same with stats.
It's based off of older, isometric RPGs like Baldur's Gate, but the mechanics are very modern and accessible. Give it a go if you like immersive RPGs.
(I apologise if you already knew about PoE).
Do you know about Pillars of Eternity? Obsidian, the guys who made NV, made it themselves via Kickstarter.
It has really great RPG mechanics, with your character being able to build up "personality traits" that unlock new responses and affect how people react to you. Same with stats.
It's based off of older, isometric RPGs like Baldur's Gate, but the mechanics are very modern and accessible. Give it a go if you like immersive RPGs.
(I apologise if you already knew about PoE).
hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,776
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,778
button replied with this 10 years ago, 51 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,788
@679,771 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
i just don't know if I'll like the whole top down thing it looks too much like all the other fantasy mmos
is it..... Good?
i just don't know if I'll like the whole top down thing it looks too much like all the other fantasy mmos
is it..... Good?
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,794
@previous (button)
Oh, no, it's not an MMO or multiplayer at all. This is full-on single player, narrative game. If you like RPGs with a heavy emphasis on roleplaying and complex companions, you'll like this.
The gameplay is solid too. Character creation is very fleshed-out, but anything you come up with should be viable.
Look up some YouTube videos or some reviews, if you're on the fence. They should give you a good idea of things.
Oh, no, it's not an MMO or multiplayer at all. This is full-on single player, narrative game. If you like RPGs with a heavy emphasis on roleplaying and complex companions, you'll like this.
The gameplay is solid too. Character creation is very fleshed-out, but anything you come up with should be viable.
Look up some YouTube videos or some reviews, if you're on the fence. They should give you a good idea of things.
more positive squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 15 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #679,797
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
the best rpg is wow. i'm always suprised when rpg lovers say they never played wow. it's absolutely the best rpg.
wanna use your charisma to advance past hard content with conversation? cool, make some friends who will carry you. there's just no stat to stack, gotta just be charismatic.
especially the "vanilla" content with the branching story arcs. the even leave lots of room for character back story, you aren't forced to RP one pre-backstoried character you make up your own (if you want) and your attitude and playstyle do the rest.
it really is/was the best rpg i ever played. everything else is lacking in some major RPG elements that make it feel like your choice doesn't matter. at least in wow your choices really do.
the best rpg is wow. i'm always suprised when rpg lovers say they never played wow. it's absolutely the best rpg.
wanna use your charisma to advance past hard content with conversation? cool, make some friends who will carry you. there's just no stat to stack, gotta just be charismatic.
especially the "vanilla" content with the branching story arcs. the even leave lots of room for character back story, you aren't forced to RP one pre-backstoried character you make up your own (if you want) and your attitude and playstyle do the rest.
it really is/was the best rpg i ever played. everything else is lacking in some major RPG elements that make it feel like your choice doesn't matter. at least in wow your choices really do.
hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc replied with this 10 years ago, 3 days later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #681,389
why do people like new vegas more than 3? i like them both but to me 3 was more interesting. i didn't notice much of a change in new vegas
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #681,396
@previous (hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc)
New Vegas was more fleshed out. The use of SPECIAL and skill outside of combat was more interesting and varied. The main quest was way better, letting you pick what side to support rather than having to support one side to advance. You also had faction reputations, letting you choode who your friends were. Weapon modding was also a thing, and the companions were more detailed and had personal quests.
And, most importantly, New Vegas gave you the opportunity to fuck a robot prostitute named Fisto.
New Vegas was more fleshed out. The use of SPECIAL and skill outside of combat was more interesting and varied. The main quest was way better, letting you pick what side to support rather than having to support one side to advance. You also had faction reputations, letting you choode who your friends were. Weapon modding was also a thing, and the companions were more detailed and had personal quests.
And, most importantly, New Vegas gave you the opportunity to fuck a robot prostitute named Fisto.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 21 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #681,397
I'm never happy long enough with my character(s) to ever progress in these games. :-(
I tried re-creating myself as I am and it felt weird not playing as a female character.
I tried re-creating myself as I am and it felt weird not playing as a female character.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #681,407
@681,396 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Oh! Also, I really liked the ammo types and crafting mechanics that New Vegas had. It was pretty fun to be able to give your gun some extra punch by making better ammo for it.
Oh! Also, I really liked the ammo types and crafting mechanics that New Vegas had. It was pretty fun to be able to give your gun some extra punch by making better ammo for it.
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