hamfist !0Ynig1RSDc joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,822
@678,811 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > pants-shitting
lol i remember reading that
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,824
@678,820 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
Are you young enough to be a girl? You keep on using that word for yourself.
(Edited 12 seconds later.)
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 6 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,825
@678,821 (E)
Apparently not. I shouldn't want to be female then. Cis-gendered people do not feel like I do, so why do I? Doctors and medical professionals state it is because I have something called "Gender Dysphoria" have you heard of it? A lot of people use hateful words to try to deny that fact but even the DSM-5 doesn't even call Gender Dysphoria a mental illness. So; If doctors, psychologists, therapists and researchers all say that I am a girl trapped in a mans body, why don't you feel that this exists too?
Do you deny that cancer exists? Or do you deny that we can treat it with medicine? Do you go to the doctor and get anti-biotics? Why do you do that if you do not feel that doctors are correct about gender dysphoria too? I mean, if they are wrong about that they have to be wrong about everything? Right? Or do you just believe in science when it supports your narrow view of the world?
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,827
@678,824 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
Going enough? What do you mean? My doctor says that I am a girl, multiple doctors and therapists in fact do. I may not exactly look like one at the moment, but every day that is slowly changing.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,829
@previous (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
Young. I edited like a second after. Whats going on with your computer?
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,832
@previous (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
Girl/Woman. People use boy/man/dude interchangeably too. I literally looked at it before you edited it. it just took me a couple minutes to think of a reply and to post it.
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 32 seconds later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,833
@678,825 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
When you get your chromosomes changed to XX then and only then can you be called female.
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,837
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^][v]#678,839
@678,833 (E)
So what about all of the intersex people? Or the XY "men" born with testosterone insensitivity? Gender isn't binary. But you would know that if you actually looked at peer reviewed medical articles. But those aren't the kind of "facts" you are wanting to find. Peer reviewed science = hogwash in your eyes. You should stop going to doctors, you might end up getting diagnosed with a disease you don't believe in.
You don't even have a decent rebuttal. The best thing you can do is rehash your last post. It is actually kind of funny. People like you are full of hate and nothing, not medical science, not even the genetics are on your side. You are literally just transphobic yet too ashamed to admit you are a bigot.
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,841
@previous (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
If you actually have some mishmash of chromosomes, then you have a valid case. However you do not.
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,843
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,844
Didn't he die falling off a Bolivian road?
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,846
@678,843 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
This isn't trolling. Anon E is starting to look more and more like an idiot however.
@678,841 (E)
That is a fancy medical degree you have. I guess your opinion must be more valid than peer reviewed medical journals written by doctors and college graduates then, huh? You don't understand the science, you downright deny it. You are literally no better than those religious nut-jobs who refuse to take their kids to doctors because "Jezuz will save mah bebeh". You can keep going but you look like an idiot who can't even hold their opinions up in an argument.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,847
@678,832 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
Most adults don't though. How old are you?
Adam Djensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,848
His belief of being a time traveler from the future is just as valid as your claim as to gender bending.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,857
@678,854 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
Because I've noticed that adult trans women really like to call themselves girls
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#678,859
@678,855 (E) > Comparing mental illness to a verifiable claim of gender dysphoria.
This guy is loony from all the drugs he has ingested. His belief is based in his schizophrenia, which makes me honestly sympathize for him. I bet when they get him on the proper medications he will realize the error of his ways. I am on the proper medication and I realized the error of mine, I realized I could not live life as a man and that I would only be happy as a woman.
My Turn.
Long-Term Follow-Up of Adults with Gender Identity Disorder:
Positive and desired changes were determined by all of the instruments: Participants reported high degrees of well-being and a good social integration. Very few participants were unemployed, most of them had a steady relationship, and they were also satisfied with their relationships with family and friends. Their overall evaluation of the treatment process for sex reassignment and its effectiveness in reducing gender dysphoria was positive. Regarding the results of the standardized questionnaires, participants showed significantly fewer psychological problems and interpersonal difficulties as well as a strongly increased life satisfaction at follow-up than at the time of the initial consultation.
Cross-Sex Hormonal Treatment and Body Uneasiness in Individuals with Gender Dysphoria:
Conclusions: The differences observed between MtF and FtM individuals suggest that body-related uneasiness associated with GD may be effectively diminished with the administration of CHT (cross hormonal treatment) even without the use of genital surgery for MtF clients. A discussion is provided on the importance of controlling both length and daily dose of treatment for the most effective impact on body uneasiness.
Trans people's experiences of mental health and gender identity services: A UK study
The key observations of this study are that untreated gender dysphoria (due to delays or refusals of treatment), unnecessary and intrusive questioning/tests, prejudicial attitudes by service providers, and restrictive treatment pathways, all contribute to minority stress which is detrimental to the mental health and wellbeing of trans people.
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,860
@678,857 (kook !!vzUOyOi/5)
I don't like hearing the term "man". Even though it is part of the word woman it still disgusts me hearing it. I say girl because it further distances me from it. Sorry if that bothers you. Honestly kook, I struggle with this every day and I really wish I didn't. I really wish I could be fine being a male but I can't and you do not know how hard that is. I have to mutilate my body to be happy. I have to take hormones to be happy. That is all I wan't though, to be happy for once. To be comfortable in my own skin for once. If you want to hate me or hate what I am doing that is fine, I can't stop you. A part of me hates that I have to do it too. However I am not going to stop, I can't. I have tasted what it is like and I can never go back to that. For once I see the light at the end of the tunnel and I am trying to get to it.
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,862
@previous (Nexi !jNexusRe/.) > I have to mutilate my body to be happy
And You called Dante loony.
I bet when you get on the proper medications you will realize the error of your ways, and man up.
I just cannot understand how someone who admits he is a failure as a male, expects to be successful as a female.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,864
@678,860 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
That's very sad. Hopefully you're on additional medication and therapy
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,867
@678,862 (E)
It is funny. I show you research articles that prove I am on the proper medications, and you still think I am not; I am, medical science says so, Medical Doctors say so. I should just listen to you eh? Some autist on the internet who doesn't actually know what the hell they are talking about. Yeah, sure. I'll get right on that. You are embarrassing yourself. You know nothing about what you are talking about and yet you claim that you do, I guess your autism won't allow you to accept facts that differ from your own opinion. I see this a lot on the internet. You bring up some schizo guy and claim we are the same and we are polar opposites, it makes no sense but neither does your argument.
I wasn't a "failure" as a man. I had a girlfriend, I had a decent job, I had money and none of that made me happy. I don't want to be one, period. That isn't who I am. What do you not understand about that? Is that too complicated for you to actually understand? I think it is. I guess the words I am using are too big for you but I get that.
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,872
@previous (Nexi !jNexusRe/.) > > I have to mutilate my body to be happy
Is that too complicated for you to actually understand?
The total nonsense of having your own body mutilated. Betting you did not know Hospital Errors are the Third Leading Cause of Death in U.S.
Subjecting yourself to mutilation and the complications. So what happens if you wake up and find out the operation was botched.
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,875
I actually did know that. Heart Disease and cancer are the two ahead of it. However those figures also take into account deaths from "preventable" diseases that occur in hospitals. Only 35% of those hospital deaths are due to medical mistakes. Which range from improper surgeries to medications not being administered correctly or in the right dosages. It is a complex problem but again, you just try to simplify it to make your failed argument.
I sue and get money. Like every other American who gets surgery. But I actually get to research and pick my surgeon. Unlike most I get to see before and after pictures.
Maddy !kCITGirlXc joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,877
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,878
Timber Nigger !faggot joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,880
Every thread is kookbait now.
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,881
@previous (Timber Nigger !faggot)
I will defend who I am.
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 33 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,882
@678,875 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.) > you just try to simplify it to make your failed argument.
No I don't. Your words not mine. > I have to mutilate my body to be happy
You can twist and turn all the words you want. Put up all the links you want to prove you're right and I am wrong. Nothing you can put up in text can justify > > I have to mutilate my body to be happy
Muslims use words to justify female genital mutilation.
Maddy !kCITGirlXc replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,883
Timber Nigger !faggot replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,885
@678,881 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
I don't have a problem with you defending your identity bud, I know it's important to you. I would caution you to take a step back now that the entire board is kook and angry anons bickering with you.
Presenting the more compelling argument doesn't change much of anything.
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,887
@678,882 (E)
I love how much your argument has devolved. You say I am the one twisting and turning words but that is exactly what you are doing. I really am speaking with an aspie. You can't counter any of my arguments so you just keep saying the same thing over and over hoping it sticks. Guess what, surgery is mutilating ones body. It isn't nice, it isn't pretty but it is necessary. Have you never actually watched a surgery? Watched someone's skin being sliced off in sections removed or someones chest being cracked open with a pair of bolt cutters? Did you know that is what they use when your heart fails? I bet you are one of those people who doesn't like to think about it. SRS isn't a pretty surgery, but it is necessary for people like me. But you can twist around how I meant mutilation, it doesn't matter.
I bet you are one of those people who sticks their fingers in their ears and keeps repeating the same phrase over and over and calls that winning an argument. Because thats pretty much what you are doing now. Keep going however, I am really enjoying embarrassing you.
Nexi !jNexusRe/. (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,889
@678,885 (Timber Nigger !faggot)
I have to go to bed anyways. I have work in the morning.
Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,891
@678,887 (Nexi !jNexusRe/.)
Actually I have watched operations performed in dismal war circumstances in the mid east. Later dated a gal who preformed breast reductions and she decided I needed to appreciate her work so I observed a breast reduction and wish I could turn back the clock because that was not pleasant.
Its your body and if you wish to destroy it for your own self gratification, that is your choice. I know a guy who made the change you are about to go through. He is now one ugly dude masquerading as a female and I often wonder if he has a clue about what people really think. I mean he turned out just ugly and he used to attract his share of women. He wanted to end up as a lesbian but he cannot get a first date. Now he is depressed and I bet he is going to have serious problems as time goes on.
You have every right to feel as you do and you should respect my right to disagree with your choice. You're the bigot and rage on and accuse others of not supporting you because you feel self entitled.
If a Muslim woman were to post here that she was going to cut off her clitoris and sew up her vagina because that is part of her culture I would be just as non supportive as I am with you.
kook !!vzUOyOi/5 replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,893
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 47 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#678,903
@678,891 (E) > Actually I have watched operations performed in dismal war circumstances in the mid east. Later dated a gal who preformed breast reductions and she decided I needed to appreciate her work so I observed a breast reduction and wish I could turn back the clock because that was not pleasant.
Did you tell her she was stupid for mutilating her body?
> Its your body and if you wish to destroy it for your own self gratification, that is your choice. I know a guy who made the change you are about to go through. He is now one ugly dude masquerading as a female and I often wonder if he has a clue about what people really think. I mean he turned out just ugly and he used to attract his share of women. He wanted to end up as a lesbian but he cannot get a first date. Now he is depressed and I bet he is going to have serious problems as time goes on.
If you had as much as half the concern you attempt to convey here, you'd shut the fuck up and let the doctors do the talking. Your medical "advice" is laughable at best and (along with your toxic rhetoric) does nothing but harm.