Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,671
@10,662 (hamfist !a4fa8BKGtQ)
I don't think they're annoying...
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,682
YouTube comment quote: > Kids have a wide variety of feelings, most of which they won't understand until adulthood. That is because they are children. I asked for Chocolate a lot when I was a child, it was the only thing i wanted to eat. My parents knew what was best for me and denied me that. That is why i am not obese. Natural behavior is to nurture and protect our young, not violate them. Nambla's intentions are sexually motivated and not rooted in childrens best interests at all.
Kitties are like children. I like to let my kitties eat a lot until they're really fat. Anyone seen Shrek Ever After. Cute fat kitty!
jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,690
They should have understood that one of the major tactics used to spread homo-feat is claiming they will turn our kids gay (l o l). Nambla should have been asked to leave as it, not kicked out. It's hypocritical, even if they are into yucky shota.
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,731
@10,682 (F)
This quote is assuming a lot. An adult-child relationship is more beneficial to the child. The kid has zero money.
I mean really, these anti arguments are getting worse and worse.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,732
@previous (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Heterophile, I think you should stop posting.
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,734
@10,723 (totoforhire !!TPesVWBmL)
The problem is that there was a very successful propaganda campaign against pedophiles (and sex) by the conservative right. Labeling pedophiles as predators. Pedophile mean child molester to many people.
Why can't we all just get along?
hamfist !a4fa8BKGtQ replied with this 15 years ago, 5 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,736
totoforhire !!TPesVWBmL replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,737
@10,734 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
All that you can do is act decent yourself.
hamfist !a4fa8BKGtQ replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,741
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,744
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,772
@10,737 (totoforhire !!TPesVWBmL)
Yes, but I can't be out. Also, I'm not entirely sure most pedos aren't molesty. I mean, if you were exclusive, I don't know how you deal. We have a biological urge. You csnt control your sex drive or desire or longing for companionship. I'd have gone insane by now I think.
People aren't some higher beings, which is religions major detriment to society as it teaches that we are. We are animals who have evolved a very capable brain. Luckily, our morality and ethics have evolved as well. We depend on other humans for survival, so it isn't natural to harm another human.
It still happens though, and often. People who harm others aren't evil, bad people necessarily, they are really just animals who were exposed to a chain of stimuli that lead to the act of harm they committed.
Out entire way of thinking is wrong. It's why we still have war, and murder. Why a child can starve when some kid who made YouTube videos can vacation on a yacht.
Knowing what we know, being capable of comminicating and empathy, humans should never have to take a life. We do though. It's disgusting. The first step to world peace ia recognizing that pedophiles are people who deserve to at least have a go at children who consent. It's love, not hate.
oops, did I lose it at the end?
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,774
> Yes, but I can't be out. Also, I'm not entirely sure most pedos aren't molesty. I mean, if you were exclusive, I don't know how you deal. We have a biological urge. You csnt control your sex drive or desire or longing for companionship.
You've stated in the past that you don't think you'll be able to have a relationship again. How does that affect you?
> I'd have gone insane by now I think.
How do you know you haven't?
> It still happens though, and often. People who harm others aren't evil, bad people necessarily, they are really just animals who were exposed to a chain of stimuli that lead to the act of harm they committed.
> > Yes, but I can't be out. Also, I'm not entirely sure most pedos aren't molesty. I mean, if you were exclusive, I don't know how you deal. We have a biological urge. You csnt control your sex drive or desire or longing for companionship. > > You've stated in the past that you don't think you'll be able to have a relationship again. How does that affect you? >
I feel lonely and depressed and without purpose.
> > I'd have gone insane by now I think. > > How do you know you haven't?
I worry about losing my mind. Until I stop worrying, I'll assume I haven't.
My dad beat me till I was like 7. Like full strength beatings. Not for being bad per se, but for causing him slight embarrassment in public. I have no recollection of being sexually abused, but I was an altar boy.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,779
Higher in relation to what? Since the term "higher being" typically refers to beings higher than humans I have no idea what you are saying and feel you don't either.
Anonymous I double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,780
@10,778 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
lol now I understand your opposition to corporal punishment too
Do you have a logical position on anything or is it all just reactionary?
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,783
> I feel lonely and depressed and without purpose.
You can still have purpose in life even without a partner. You can dedicate your life to a cause. You're a young guy, full of strength.
> My dad beat me till I was like 7. Like full strength beatings. Not for being bad per se, but for causing him slight embarrassment in public.
I'm sorry that happened to you. Do you think it may have lead you to be the way you are now? With the drugs and the pedophilia and the flashbacks? I'm sorry if I come off as insensitive.
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,790
My opinion is completely logical. It has no benefit to society. The only reason to do it is for vengeance. Also, I don't believe in a punishment based justice system. Again, no benefit to society. The judicial system should be about protecting society. Often, that will mean removing someone from society, but not for an arbitrary number of years that just sounded like a good punishment to make someone look tough on crime to help their political career.
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Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,796
> My opinion is completely logical. It has no benefit to society.
I agree that your opinion is of no value to society. Please take some time writing your posts to avoid errors such as this.
Corporal punishment is not solely out of vengeance. Some people (such as your father) may do it for this reason. Do not assume that your experience is the only one. Do not form an opinion from an absence of knowledge. The purpose of punishment is correction.
Children should not be punished for immaturity or inability/ignorance. They should only be punished for disobedience.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,799
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,819
@10,783 (B) > You can still have purpose in life even without a partner. You can dedicate your life to a cause. You're a young guy, full of strength.
Thanks, but I have no support. I don't have family. Like, if I need to talk to someone, I come to MC and make a stupid whiney semi-sarcastic post. In 2-3 years I will be completely alone. My friend's are starting families. Already I find I don't see them half as often as I did three years ago.
I will have no one. My only social interactions will be with employees of stores I patronize and co-workers, who I have no friend's among (the people I work with are mostly older and women.) I haven't made any friendships with the nurses in five years.
I've been here, 5 days a week for 5 years. Not. One. Friend. I am too full of anxiety. I'm a mess. I was I therapy for over a year and made no progress.
I'm not looking for a pity party, right now anyway, just explaining I'm a pseudo-agoraphobic. I know what's in store for me. I have nothing I am working towards. Every day blends into the next. Time goes by very quickly.
I'm numb to it all now. I'm miserable, but I also don't really care anymore. It's like I can't. It's the anti-depressants I'm on, but if I go off them I will kill myself. It's not even a possibility I might not. Weed alone is not enough.
I'm rock bottom. There's no where to go but up, you night say, but it's very dark down here and I don't know how to climb up rock walls and though people tell me, it's not something I am able to do it seems. > > > I'm sorry that happened to you. Do you think it may have lead you to be the way you are now? With the drugs and the pedophilia and the flashbacks? I'm sorry if I come off as insensitive.
Flashbacks? I'm not sure what you mean there.
I don't know how that would turn me pedo. Also, i dont know if it contributed with the drug use. I'm not a problem user. It never affects my life. If I need to do something that requires me to be sober, I do it. I've never gone to work high. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have a ton of issues and I'm sure a lot of it has to do with how my parents are terrible at parenting (I just don't think the drug use is a negative). They weren't even mean. Like I said, my dad only beat us when he would get embarrassed. It was usually very stupid. One time I was at cub scouts and all the kids were running around playing tag. I know my dad sai to come sit down, and I didn't right away. I don't know exactly what caused it, I didn't even know I was in trouble until we got in the car and he punched me. It completely took me by surprise. That was the worst beating I ever got, and the only time he hit my face (lol, I was all ready with the "fell down the steps" or "walked into a door" lie my dad told me, but no one asked what happened. No one at school. Not my mom. My friend's didn't. I really don't understand that. Cause it was pretty bad looking. It was obvious I had been beaten. It was a bloody lip and black eyes. The bad kind of black eye that lingers. I ended up telling the one loopy nun something about it cause her lip was bleeding and I told her cause she didn't seem to notice, and I was like "yea I got mine blah blah blah." I think I was hoping she would take notice. Oh, silly child that I was. She probably didn't even know what day it was.
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jump !VIfloDyEYo double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,822
I don't think that children understand the risks of sex. And the uneven power dynamic between the adult and the child would make it very easy to exploit the younger partner.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,827
@10,819 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Honestly all you do is whine. I'm trying to help you here. You're almost as bad as DM. You're better than this. Life is not what you get given; it's what you make! Make a great life!
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,828
@10,819 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
I'm sorry, that sounds horrible. I've tried to befriend you online, but you seem resistant to that.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,829
@10,822 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
Humans are above animals. You gave the reasons yourself: Morality and ethics.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,832
> I'm rock bottom. There's no where to go but up, you night say, but it's very dark down here and I don't know how to climb up rock walls and though people tell me, it's not something I am able to do it seems.
Yeah, same here. I go home every night to an empty studio apartment and brood in the darkness. I'm a virgin in his late twenties with no friends.
> Flashbacks? I'm not sure what you mean there.
When you remember something and freak out while saying, "Fuck Fuck Fuck." The same thing happens to me. Other things that "affect" you also affect my.
I was also physically and emotionally abused by my parents.
> I don't know how that would turn me pedo.
Getting beaten by your dad for "embarrassing mistakes" will fuck a kid up pretty badly.
> That was the worst beating I ever got, and the only time he hit my face (lol, I was all ready with the "fell down the steps" or "walked into a door" lie my dad told me, but no one asked what happened. No one at school. Not my mom. My friend's didn't. I really don't understand that.
A lot of people are less empathetic to males.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,833
@10,824 (jump !VIfloDyEYo)
I WAS REMOVED FROM MY JOB DON'T YOU PAY ATTENTION
Anonymous I double-posted this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,835
@10,826 (totoforhire !!TPesVWBmL)
What are the risks of sex?
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,836
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,848
@10,826 (totoforhire !!TPesVWBmL)
Obviously. I wasn't being serious. Men are creepy fuckers. Adult women are taken advantage of and controlled, a child shouldn't e put at risk for that just to satisfy some guys sexual urges. I would never seriously advocate child-adult relationships. I don't want to fuck a kid. I've got the attraction and desire but not the actual urge. I've been as successful as I think you can get by denying the desires. It's gotten worse since I've gotten more depressed, but it's mostly
My anxiety about it, but there has definitely been an increase in thoughts about it in general, which I haven't dealt with in years.
I can't get worse than I am in terms of being low, so that's why I think I'm as cured as one can get as stress and depression greatly decreases your ability to suppress things.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,851
@10,839 (B)
lol I'm not angry! I'm merely asking how whether morality/ethics is innate or learned/taught makes any difference in the distinction between human and animal behavior.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,852
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,863
@10,828 (Homestar !RUNNERV7vk)
I'm sorry I was a dick to you. You aren't the kind of person I thought you were originally.
@10,832 (B)
Oh, i thought you meant flashbacks of the abuse, which I don't have. I never hated my dad for it. My parents werent mean. It did stop abruptly around 2nd or 3rd grade. I don't really remember when.
Thinking on it, my one friend's parents may have said something. My dad acted hostile towards the friend's mom once. He moved away and we were good friends and his mom invited me to his soccer game and then i was supposes to go over his house after. My dad said inwasnt allowed over his house. I don't know why, but we never hung out again after that. I can't think of any reason why (I didn't understand it then).
It's a shame because that was my first close relationship. We had done everything together until he moved and his parents did a very good job at trying to keep us getting together. My parents didn't though, which is kind of unlike them. My parents were good about giving rides and stuff. They weren't really mean.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,867
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,869
@previous (I)
Everything is going according to plan. :3
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,872
@10,832 (B)
I got interrupted by work before I could finish my last thought (also because I csnt stay on one point).
I feel like I can't make any new relationships. When I go out with my friends' friends I really feel out of my element. There is definitely a feeling of not being in the same place in life.
I don't really know where I am though. I'm not transitioning into anything. I'm not in an in-between place. I'm just stuck.
I'm assuming since you get the "fuck fuck fuck" moments you probably get terrible anxiety when you are out and have to interact with peope in any kind of situation?
I guess it's not surprising. Both my brothers were/are drug addicts so I guess abuse fucks you up royally. I don't know why I'm not angry at my parents for it. I know your brain protects you when you are young.
I just don't feel like I can better my situation. I can kind of convince myself it's possible, but it won't last more than a second. Life feels hopeless to me.
I do feel like I know what's left for me. I just lost that hope of "I'm gonna be this." I feel like I'm no longer "going to be" but that "I am."
I dunno if that makes sense. How do you feel about it all?
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KKS (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#10,877
> This quote is assuming a lot. An adult-child relationship is more beneficial to the child. The kid has zero money. > > I mean really, these anti arguments are getting worse and worse.
Who gives a shit?! I was talking about feeding cats till they're overweight because it's amusing.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,041
jump !VIfloDyEYo replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,043
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,124
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Anonymous M double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,127
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Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,128
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Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,177
@11,123 (hamfist !a4fa8BKGtQ)
Well, the words shota and loli are only used in a sexual context right?
Why not call them what they really are? Boys and girls.
I think words like shota and loli help pedos disconnect from the truth about what they're actually jerking off over.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,266
Summary: Corporal punishment in parenting is never used properly, parents are fucktards who do not know what is best, and pedophilia would be less of a problem is fundie hatemongering didn't give them a persecution complex.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,267
> Summary: Corporal punishment in parenting is never used properly, parents are fucktards who do not know what is best, and pedophilia would be less of a problem is fundie hatemongering didn't give them a persecution complex.
Anonymous O replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#11,269