Anonymous C double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,964
Over the past six years after every election, a relatively common question is why do so many Americans dependably vote against their own self-interests. Despite poor white people in southern red states barely surviving on slave wages, welfare, food stamps, and no adequate healthcare, they routinely vote for Republicans openly campaigning on driving their constituents deeper into poverty. It is true that opposition to Democrats as surrogates for an African American President is driven by racial animus, but even that fails to explain poor white voters electing abusive Republicans promising to eliminate programs that keep them alive and block Democratic attempts to lift them out of poverty.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 24 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,968
@previous (C)
We've had seven years of a Democratic presidency. If you cryogenically froze someone in 2007 and thawed them out today how would they be able to tell we went from having a Texas conservative to a Chicago liberal in the white house? Oh, right, we got Mitt Romney's healthcare plan.
I'm not dissing Obama, I'm just saying that if Rip Van Winkle fell asleep at the end of Dubya's second term and woke up in this last year of Obama's second term, he'd be hard pressed to find change.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Trashtivist !8x8z91r9YM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,969
First I am fucking just fucking amazed - CNN and FOX both for 14 mins have the same 99% number up and have not called a winner for MO. Yet Politico called it at 100% 14 mins ago and to verify http://enr.sos.mo.gov/EnrNet/
Its just staggering how fractions of a percent end up being so important in an election. Now of course its not official even on the Gov site re those wanky ballots that will take days to count torn this and god only nos wot buttttt
So you no me by now. First to propose health care so I did a quick look up.
"Health care reform was a major concern of the Bill Clinton administration headed up by First Lady Hillary Clinton; however, the 1993 Clinton health care plan was not enacted into law."
"As president, Bush signed into law the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act which included a prescription drug plan for elderly and disabled Americans."
"During the 2004 presidential election, both the George Bush and John Kerry campaigns offered health care proposals. Bush's proposals for expanding health care coverage were more modest than those advanced by Senator Kerry."
"John McCain's proposals focused on open-market competition rather than government funding. At the heart of his plan were tax credits - $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families who do not subscribe to or do not have access to health care through their employer. To help people who are denied coverage by insurance companies due to pre-existing conditions, McCain proposed working with states to create what he called a "Guaranteed Access Plan."
Barack Obama called for universal health care.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,978
Reminds me of the old story about Adlai Stevenson. He was meeting with a supporter who told him "You have the vote of every thinking person". He replied, "That's not enough, I need a majority."
Surprisingly, he did not win the presidency.
(Edited 15 seconds later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,979
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > "You have the vote of every thinking person". He replied, "That's not enough, I need a majority."
LOL
Yea he was very cerebral.
Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,980
@previous (A)
Is it true you personally introduced him to Harry Truman?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,981
So Missouri may take days or weeks or LONGER to resolve
They have counted all the ballots they have to count. But have to wait for overseas absentee ballots which are legal as long as post mark is by Tue Midnight - AND there is a Law that says when any election is within 1% any candidate is free to ask for a recount. Given both Rep n Demo are fractions of a percent it for sure it going to take a while
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 26 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,985
What happens if he did win though?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 53 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,993
@660,964 (C)
Maybe the Democrats could try a novel, radical concept known as not being actively hostile towards impoverished and working class white people.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,994
@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
I'm pretty sure healthcare was aimed that way. Unfortunately the House kind of fucked that right in the ass.
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,995
@previous (I)
Maybe they don't want to hear a wealthy college-educated upper-middle class white woman with a megaphone shaming them for their white privilege while they live paycheck to paycheck in a rundown trailer park?
Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 33 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,997
@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
Obviously, universal health care was stymied by wealthy college-educated upper-middle class white women that obviously filled the House of Representatives during that period. Way to reason that issue.
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw replied with this 10 years ago, 31 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,998
@previous (I)
Man, if only there was a way to combine nationalism AND socialism.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#660,999