Topic: Media: trump encourages violence.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E started this discussion 10 years ago #50,857
Sure maybe he does but the media does it more when they constantly compare him to a fascist dictator, when they call him Hitler. To make people think he is Hitler is to justify violence against him. So the media should take its fair share of responsibility for that clash of protesters and trump supporters.
Adam Jensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #659,754
What media has called him Hitler
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #659,757
@previous (Adam Jensen)
http://www.thewrap.com/trump-hitler-roundup-heres-whos-compared-donald-trump-to-hitler-this-weekend/
Lots and that's not even all of it. Then there is also many things where he isn't exactly called it but certainly put side by side of Hitler, like that sketch on conan Obrien.
Don't forget the endless sea of people who call him Hitler in every opportunity.
http://www.thewrap.com/trump-hitler-roundup-heres-whos-compared-donald-trump-to-hitler-this-weekend/
Lots and that's not even all of it. Then there is also many things where he isn't exactly called it but certainly put side by side of Hitler, like that sketch on conan Obrien.
Don't forget the endless sea of people who call him Hitler in every opportunity.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #659,759
lolmerica
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 34 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #659,762
Did Hitler ever Accidentally Stalk a little girl, Denmark Pedoguy?
Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #659,764
Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #659,766
I seem to remember Bush getting lots of Hitler comparisons too. Can we just repeal Godwin's Law already?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #659,767
@659,764 (Adam Jensen)
That still is the media. Plus news outlets do and have reported on those comedians and the comparisons are also on comment sections at news outlets.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/28/two-former-mexican-presidents-compare-donald-trump-to-hitler
That still is the media. Plus news outlets do and have reported on those comedians and the comparisons are also on comment sections at news outlets.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/28/two-former-mexican-presidents-compare-donald-trump-to-hitler
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #659,768
Anonymous D replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #659,769
@659,767 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Sounds like you're being a whiney little bitch again, Denmark Pedoguy.
Sounds like you're being a whiney little bitch again, Denmark Pedoguy.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #659,771
@OP
If I were following US politics this might be an interesting point. Think I'll pass.
If I were following US politics this might be an interesting point. Think I'll pass.
Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,773
@659,767 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Not really, they are independent persons, as opposed to actual news organizations, and are not claiming to be objective. Also comedians are generally known for making jokes.
Not really, they are independent persons, as opposed to actual news organizations, and are not claiming to be objective. Also comedians are generally known for making jokes.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,774
@previous (Adam Jensen)
The Media isn't just news organizations and if the news would constantly report what individual kkk members thought about black people, then many people would rightfully say they support racism.
But yes the comments are from individual people and they are extremely common. I guess at the very least, it can be said that the idea that trump is Hitler is an idea that encourages violence. Anyone who would be called Hitler with extensive media support- they would be in danger of violence and also the people who support them.
The Media isn't just news organizations and if the news would constantly report what individual kkk members thought about black people, then many people would rightfully say they support racism.
But yes the comments are from individual people and they are extremely common. I guess at the very least, it can be said that the idea that trump is Hitler is an idea that encourages violence. Anyone who would be called Hitler with extensive media support- they would be in danger of violence and also the people who support them.
Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,787
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 22 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,792
This the only Denmark guy thread I've not ever cringed at.
The media's portrayal of Trump is completely inaccurate and lazy. When they aren't comparing him to our favorite fascist they are promoting his brand and asking ridiculously easy questions, though.
The media should feel more responsibility about its coverage, absolutely, but the violent opposition to Trump isn't something a media creation.
Trump's rallies are a microcosm of race relations here. There is still a very real hatred between disadvantaged whites and black people. It bothers me to read or watch insular white people in the media or on here that don't shit about shit speculate about these things.
The media's portrayal of Trump is completely inaccurate and lazy. When they aren't comparing him to our favorite fascist they are promoting his brand and asking ridiculously easy questions, though.
The media should feel more responsibility about its coverage, absolutely, but the violent opposition to Trump isn't something a media creation.
Trump's rallies are a microcosm of race relations here. There is still a very real hatred between disadvantaged whites and black people. It bothers me to read or watch insular white people in the media or on here that don't shit about shit speculate about these things.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 37 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,798
Wtf breitbart suddenly came with the same conclusion
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/13/what-that-trump-security-moment-does-to-a-campaign/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/13/what-that-trump-security-moment-does-to-a-campaign/
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,800
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 34 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,801
Trashtivist !ncKvmqq0Bs joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,803
@OP
> So the media should take its fair share of responsibility
> Media should take responsibility
Damlol. That'll never happen.
> So the media should take its fair share of responsibility
> Media should take responsibility
Damlol. That'll never happen.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 51 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,804
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,805
@659,801 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I just heard that this guy sometimes writes there and I was sold. Calls himself milo Yiannopoulos.
I just heard that this guy sometimes writes there and I was sold. Calls himself milo Yiannopoulos.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,806
@659,798 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)> It’ll be the fault of the Hitlerizing media.
So now its the fault of the media?
lolololololololol
Everyday the Trump PT Barnum Circus sure is entertaining.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,807
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,811
Trump isn't Hitler though, he's Mussolini.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,812
@659,807 (kook !!mCVqftDha)Milo knows what's up! Ever check out his tweets? I never go on that website but when I do its only to see his humor.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,836
squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,871
tell his supporters to quit treating him like hitler and people will quit calling him thatSheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,873
breitbart isn't even alive
I don't know who the fuck is running a dead man's site, but it can't be for goodness in the world
I don't know who the fuck is running a dead man's site, but it can't be for goodness in the world
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,874
what a bunch of role models, eh?Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 53 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,883
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,887
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
the picture of the lady i posted was interviewed and she was literally throwing the hitler salute on purpose. so...
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/12/trump-supporter-who-made-nazi-salute-explains-why-she-made-the-gesture/
the picture of the lady i posted was interviewed and she was literally throwing the hitler salute on purpose. so...
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/12/trump-supporter-who-made-nazi-salute-explains-why-she-made-the-gesture/
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Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,888
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,891
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
i posted it
i posted it
“I make the point that they are demonstrating something they had no knowledge about,” she said. “If you want to do it right, you do it right. You don’t know what you are doing.”
That is when she made the Nazi salute
she's acting like it's some kind of counter protest, but she's really just going around throwing the nazi salute as a trump supporter.That is when she made the Nazi salute
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Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,894
@previous (squeegee)
Yeah she lived in Germany and was angry that trump was being compared to Hitler because "they don't know what they is talking about" and she said it was to protest the comparison. She even says she is absolutely not a nazi..... So.....
Yeah she lived in Germany and was angry that trump was being compared to Hitler because "they don't know what they is talking about" and she said it was to protest the comparison. She even says she is absolutely not a nazi..... So.....
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Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 54 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,895
@659,891 (squeegee)
Yeah its the same with hillary, she may deny it but she is really just trying to win over nazis.
Yeah its the same with hillary, she may deny it but she is really just trying to win over nazis.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,896
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Yeah, the nazi vote is crucial in the American elections. Pretty much any serious presidential candidate will be looking to get that National Socialist vote in some way.
Yeah, the nazi vote is crucial in the American elections. Pretty much any serious presidential candidate will be looking to get that National Socialist vote in some way.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,899
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Obviously and I think it's right, that old woman is just a evil little nazi who is just pretending to not be a nazi. Her words doesn't matter! No trial! Supporting a certain candidate is evidence enough.
Obviously and I think it's right, that old woman is just a evil little nazi who is just pretending to not be a nazi. Her words doesn't matter! No trial! Supporting a certain candidate is evidence enough.
Anonymous K replied with this 10 years ago, 45 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,900
@659,873 (Sheila LaBoof)
> breitbart isn't even alive
>
> I don't know who the fuck is running a dead man's site, but it can't be for goodness in the world
I remember when Breitbart said this about Ted Kennedy "Breitbart called Kennedy a "villain," a "duplicitous bastard," a "prick" and "a special pile of human excrement".
After he croaked his editors took over and some kinda internal squabble. $ are currently backed by Robert Mercer a former IBM manager and now rich Hedgefund guy. Editors refuse to comment on who runs the company other than Alexander Marlow editor in charge.
> breitbart isn't even alive
>
> I don't know who the fuck is running a dead man's site, but it can't be for goodness in the world
I remember when Breitbart said this about Ted Kennedy "Breitbart called Kennedy a "villain," a "duplicitous bastard," a "prick" and "a special pile of human excrement".
After he croaked his editors took over and some kinda internal squabble. $ are currently backed by Robert Mercer a former IBM manager and now rich Hedgefund guy. Editors refuse to comment on who runs the company other than Alexander Marlow editor in charge.
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 28 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,903
@659,894 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
mmhmm, after the picture circulated AND her family started getting questioned on social media. i'd say the same thing if my family was being harassed over something i'd done. and being from germany she should understand that that salute is not normally used as a form of protest so for her to do that is just a terrible idea, so i don't entirely believe her. i believe she was throwing the salute as a way to say she embraces what people say about trump, good or bad. "he's a nazi, we'll i'll salute that," and she probably did mean it sarcastically, but it doesn't come across that way.
she probably didn't think a pic of her would go viral and get her family fucked with. if she'd have known, i bet she wouldn't have done it. it wasn't a "protest," it was just her antagonizing trump protesters and now she's trying to backpedal so people will quit fucking with her relatives.
mmhmm, after the picture circulated AND her family started getting questioned on social media. i'd say the same thing if my family was being harassed over something i'd done. and being from germany she should understand that that salute is not normally used as a form of protest so for her to do that is just a terrible idea, so i don't entirely believe her. i believe she was throwing the salute as a way to say she embraces what people say about trump, good or bad. "he's a nazi, we'll i'll salute that," and she probably did mean it sarcastically, but it doesn't come across that way.
she probably didn't think a pic of her would go viral and get her family fucked with. if she'd have known, i bet she wouldn't have done it. it wasn't a "protest," it was just her antagonizing trump protesters and now she's trying to backpedal so people will quit fucking with her relatives.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,904
@659,899 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Wait, are you being sarcastic?
Am I being sarcastic?
What's even happening here?
Wait, are you being sarcastic?
Am I being sarcastic?
What's even happening here?
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,907
@659,895 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
where do you get that, though? has hillary actually said, (like this woman) that she purposefully threw a nazi salute, or is she just gesticulating? cause, you know, you can't just ascribe intent to something that doesn't exist to make it fit your weird little narrative. this woman literally admits to throwing a nazi salute when trump got compared to hitler. this was her intention, she wasn't just gesturing with her hands and a single out-of-context freeze frame made it look like a nazi salute.
trump was compared to hitler and she nazi saluted the idea.
where do you get that, though? has hillary actually said, (like this woman) that she purposefully threw a nazi salute, or is she just gesticulating? cause, you know, you can't just ascribe intent to something that doesn't exist to make it fit your weird little narrative. this woman literally admits to throwing a nazi salute when trump got compared to hitler. this was her intention, she wasn't just gesturing with her hands and a single out-of-context freeze frame made it look like a nazi salute.
trump was compared to hitler and she nazi saluted the idea.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 51 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,908
@659,903 (squeegee)
The angry mob is always right!
@659,904 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Uh? Well I thought you were joking and so I also joked.
The angry mob is always right!
@659,904 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Uh? Well I thought you were joking and so I also joked.
Anonymous K replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,909
@659,907 (squeegee)
Perhaps you have not viewed newscasts of protesters. Lots of them have home made t shirts with Nazi slogans to paint Trump a Nazi.
He is of German heritage after all. lol
He might say the 3rd greatest book is Mien Kampf, except that is not politically correct.
Perhaps you have not viewed newscasts of protesters. Lots of them have home made t shirts with Nazi slogans to paint Trump a Nazi.
He is of German heritage after all. lol
He might say the 3rd greatest book is Mien Kampf, except that is not politically correct.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 53 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,910
@659,907 (squeegee)
" you can't just ascribe intent to something that doesn't exist to make it fit your weird little narrative"
Very true and I take that back. The same applies to you with your thoughts about that old woman.
" you can't just ascribe intent to something that doesn't exist to make it fit your weird little narrative"
Very true and I take that back. The same applies to you with your thoughts about that old woman.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 17 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,911
@659,908 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I was joking.
I believe we have been caught in the rare Double Joke Loop-around. We must cease this conversation before things get out of hand.
I was joking.
I believe we have been caught in the rare Double Joke Loop-around. We must cease this conversation before things get out of hand.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,914
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 17 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,915
@659,908 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> The angry mob is always right!
what the fuck are you talking about? who is mentioning a fucking mob, you twit? i'm talking about this woman and her actions and her lame attempt to backpedal. she's the one throwing nazi salutes at an american political rally, the crowd didn't make her decide to do that. why the fuck are you always blaming everyone except people who are directly responsible for their own actions?
> The angry mob is always right!
what the fuck are you talking about? who is mentioning a fucking mob, you twit? i'm talking about this woman and her actions and her lame attempt to backpedal. she's the one throwing nazi salutes at an american political rally, the crowd didn't make her decide to do that. why the fuck are you always blaming everyone except people who are directly responsible for their own actions?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,918
@previous (squeegee)
I mentioned the angry mob because you said she was just making excuses after a lot of people got angry with her and (like you) started calling her a nazi.
So she can not deny it or deny it but the "angry mob" has made its mind.
Also this was a violent clash, she is a old woman born in (east/west?) Germany in the 40s. You think she was the only one that in that violent protest that wasn't thinking straight? Was it just the trump supporters who did all the bad?
And then you use that old woman to smear all trump supporters?
I mentioned the angry mob because you said she was just making excuses after a lot of people got angry with her and (like you) started calling her a nazi.
So she can not deny it or deny it but the "angry mob" has made its mind.
Also this was a violent clash, she is a old woman born in (east/west?) Germany in the 40s. You think she was the only one that in that violent protest that wasn't thinking straight? Was it just the trump supporters who did all the bad?
And then you use that old woman to smear all trump supporters?
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,923
maybe it's time to take all the neat nazi stuff away from the nazis so we can use it
squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,932
@659,918 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
i never called her a nazi bud. and again, you're still blaming everyone but trump for his own inciting of violence. stop putting words in my mouth to fit your narrative.
i never called her a nazi bud. and again, you're still blaming everyone but trump for his own inciting of violence. stop putting words in my mouth to fit your narrative.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,935
@previous (squeegee)
Pfff. Okay mister (or miss?) but i never blamed everyone and I certainly won't blame trump because that's like justifying another repeat, also reminds me of victim blaming.
Anyway must leave now, get well. (literally exiting right now)
Pfff. Okay mister (or miss?) but i never blamed everyone and I certainly won't blame trump because that's like justifying another repeat, also reminds me of victim blaming.
Anyway must leave now, get well. (literally exiting right now)
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,941
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
how about i start posting video examples where trump incites violence with his rhetoric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkQbASQWF0
you don't hold trump responsible for his own words? it's not victim blaming when trump incites violence against the victims, you twit.
how about i start posting video examples where trump incites violence with his rhetoric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCkQbASQWF0
you don't hold trump responsible for his own words? it's not victim blaming when trump incites violence against the victims, you twit.
squeegee double-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,947
in fact, here's a huge article about how trump has incited violence at many of his rallies
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/donald-trump-has-a-long-history-of-inciting-violence-so-why-is-he-shocked-about-his-cancelled-rally--WySNMai8JZ
he has repeatedly incited violence against the supporters of the opposition party. you know who else did that to great effect? i'll let you guess.
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/donald-trump-has-a-long-history-of-inciting-violence-so-why-is-he-shocked-about-his-cancelled-rally--WySNMai8JZ
he has repeatedly incited violence against the supporters of the opposition party. you know who else did that to great effect? i'll let you guess.
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Anonymous K replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,948
@659,941 (squeegee)
Tis remarkable how often he comes out with two faced lies
On camera talking about wishing someone wood throw a fist - later he denies he suggests violence.
Says in the old days they carried them out on a stretcher.
But I still think his high point was saying he wood
Tis remarkable how often he comes out with two faced lies
On camera talking about wishing someone wood throw a fist - later he denies he suggests violence.
Says in the old days they carried them out on a stretcher.
But I still think his high point was saying he wood
March 13 at 9:57 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/10/trump-once-said-he-would-pay-legal-fees-for-people-who-beat-up-protesters-now-that-its-happened-can-he/
Update: Donald Trump told "Meet the Press" on Sunday that he does, indeed, want to pay the legal fees of the man who sucker-punched a protester.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/10/trump-once-said-he-would-pay-legal-fees-for-people-who-beat-up-protesters-now-that-its-happened-can-he/
Update: Donald Trump told "Meet the Press" on Sunday that he does, indeed, want to pay the legal fees of the man who sucker-punched a protester.
Lore joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #659,950
denmarkdraad
Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #660,024
So OP what's your solution to this? Do you want to censor the people? Also I'm not convinced that the comparison to Hitler incites violence.