Topic: Why does my skepticism vs morality thing get so unique replies?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E started this discussion 10 years ago #50,452
It's the strangest thing. From it i get the most absurd results in history of results. Nobody seems to agree with anyone when I ask those very simple lines of questions.
Some get very scared and others instantly agree, others get angry or sad.
Some get very scared and others instantly agree, others get angry or sad.
Adam Jensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later[^] [v] #654,481
i just get confused as to your thought processes
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,485
@previous (Adam Jensen)
Is that true? Because it always feels like most evade questions. Like simple yes or no questions.
Is that true? Because it always feels like most evade questions. Like simple yes or no questions.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,489
i find this all very unsettling but i can't argue with you, you fucking son of a bitch i'll fucking kill you and the thought of that makes me super depressed.(Edited 17 seconds later.)
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,490
@previous (squeegee)
Kill me twice or a billion times but goddammit that is a owl and I'm not crazy.
Kill me twice or a billion times but goddammit that is a owl and I'm not crazy.
Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,492
Adam Jensen double-posted this 10 years ago, 55 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,493
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,496
@654,492 (Adam Jensen)
What is incorrect by asking if one believes it's true that people shouldn't be what you consider evil?
What is incorrect by asking if one believes it's true that people shouldn't be what you consider evil?
Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,501
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Everyone has explained why your reasoning is bad a hundred times already.
Everyone has explained why your reasoning is bad a hundred times already.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #654,502
@previous (Adam Jensen)
But you can't even tell what my reasoning is. You can't even answer if you think it's true that people shouldn't rape.
Like really, do you think it's true or not?
But you can't even tell what my reasoning is. You can't even answer if you think it's true that people shouldn't rape.
Like really, do you think it's true or not?
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,504
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)yes, i think it's true that people shouldn't rape. happy?
(Edited 16 seconds later.)
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,505
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,508
@654,504 (squeegee)
Im only happy if you either two things:
1 continue the line of questions
2 call it a day or a year for the line of questions with the conclusion bein inconclusive.
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Hide your kids!
Im only happy if you either two things:
1 continue the line of questions
2 call it a day or a year for the line of questions with the conclusion bein inconclusive.
@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
Hide your kids!
squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,516
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,518
@previous (squeegee)
I'm confused you see, about your statement. Normally I would ask a couple more questions but you seem to have answered as if you are sick of questions and don't want more questions.
I'm confused you see, about your statement. Normally I would ask a couple more questions but you seem to have answered as if you are sick of questions and don't want more questions.
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,519
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)what?? dude, what literally means what, as in what? what doesn't mean, "i'm sick of questions and don't want more questions." it is literally a thing someone says when they expect someome to clarify what they are saying. "what" is an open invitation to continue a conversation.
see, i'm literally confused about YOUR statement. what you said to me doesn't actually make any sense. let me clear it up for you.
> Im only happy if you either two things:
i believe that you have misplaced a verb here. i've assumed you mean "do" either of those two things, but, i'm asking for clarification because i have no idea what you really mean and to assume you mean something is a recipe for misinterpretation and then communication between us becomes even more difficult.
> 1 continue the line of questions
what line of questions are you expecting me to continue with? i actually gave you an answer, not a question. unless you mean the question of you being happy. obviously you're not satisfied with my answer. technically in formal conversations if you ask a question and are unsatisfied with an answer you would then probably ask a follow up rather than expecting the other person to begin some kind of, i don't know, interview? i just... i don't know what it is you're expecting me to ask you here.
> 2 call it a day or a year for the line of questions with the conclusion bein inconclusive.
what conclusion are you talking about? WHAT is inconclusive? that i think people shouldn't be raped? i just... i don't even know what you're asking me here. give me some help, bud, throw me a line. tell me what you're talking about, what questions?
RWBY Rhubarb ? !USyrBjAMxU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,520
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #654,521
@654,519 (squeegee)
Alright. You say it's true that people shouldn't rape, i agree, but is it factual that people shouldn't rape?
Alright. You say it's true that people shouldn't rape, i agree, but is it factual that people shouldn't rape?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,529
Your mind is scrambled. You cannot properly perceive reality. Rational thought appears alien and illogical to you.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,531
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,535
@654,521 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
What!? your question makes no sense. it's like saying, "it's true, but is it true?"
the answer is fucking yes! it is true, it is factual, YES! just yes.
are you asking why is rape considered bad? is that your question? the way you're asking it makes absolutely zero sense. yes, rape is bad. do you really need an explaination as to why?
What!? your question makes no sense. it's like saying, "it's true, but is it true?"
the answer is fucking yes! it is true, it is factual, YES! just yes.
are you asking why is rape considered bad? is that your question? the way you're asking it makes absolutely zero sense. yes, rape is bad. do you really need an explaination as to why?
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,536
@previous (squeegee)
What he's trying to claim is that rape is considered bad for moral reasons, as opposed to purely factual or objective ones. Morals are subjective, so he says that rape being bad is also subjective.
(I don't know why he always has to use rape for that argument, but he insists. He can't seem to understand why a fixation on rape would be considered inappropriate for this sort of conversation.)
Things get hazy, at that point. He seems to apply that logic to other things too, like religion and the concept of reality. Attempts to introduce factual evidence or arguments are often met with the rape analogy once again, or similar sentiments about how most things are subjective.
I find it best to just ignore him, mostly. He's just so into this... Unique thought process. It makes constructive conversations pretty difficult.
What he's trying to claim is that rape is considered bad for moral reasons, as opposed to purely factual or objective ones. Morals are subjective, so he says that rape being bad is also subjective.
(I don't know why he always has to use rape for that argument, but he insists. He can't seem to understand why a fixation on rape would be considered inappropriate for this sort of conversation.)
Things get hazy, at that point. He seems to apply that logic to other things too, like religion and the concept of reality. Attempts to introduce factual evidence or arguments are often met with the rape analogy once again, or similar sentiments about how most things are subjective.
I find it best to just ignore him, mostly. He's just so into this... Unique thought process. It makes constructive conversations pretty difficult.
(Edited 3 minutes later.)
squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,537
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
so he doesn't understand the difference between subjective truth and objective truth? got'cha. now it makes sense.
so he doesn't understand the difference between subjective truth and objective truth? got'cha. now it makes sense.
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Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,540
@654,536 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I wish he would just write out his actual point in one post for once
I wish he would just write out his actual point in one post for once
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,545
@previous (Adam Jensen)
I think I can summarise it for you:
"Morality and our perception of reality are subjective and imprecise. Therefore, all interpretations are valid."
That's my read on what he's saying, anyway.
I think I can summarise it for you:
"Morality and our perception of reality are subjective and imprecise. Therefore, all interpretations are valid."
That's my read on what he's saying, anyway.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,551
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I think it's even weirder than that. He seems to think that if you believe "People shouldn't rape other people" is true, it logically necessitates that you also believe "People NEVER rape other people". Which...doesn't even remotely make any sense. Maybe it's a language issue that non-native speakers have or something? I don't know.
I think it's even weirder than that. He seems to think that if you believe "People shouldn't rape other people" is true, it logically necessitates that you also believe "People NEVER rape other people". Which...doesn't even remotely make any sense. Maybe it's a language issue that non-native speakers have or something? I don't know.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,585
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
If you believe it's true that people shouldn't rape, then you are believing in a truth without evidence, you can't prove that people shouldn't rape but yet you believe it to be true.
This whole excuse that it's actually a opinion and therefore immune to scrutiny is ridiculous, we aren't talking about which food tastes better but people and what they shouldn't do.
If you believe it's true that people shouldn't rape, then you are believing in a truth without evidence, you can't prove that people shouldn't rape but yet you believe it to be true.
This whole excuse that it's actually a opinion and therefore immune to scrutiny is ridiculous, we aren't talking about which food tastes better but people and what they shouldn't do.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,587
Lots of unique replies.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,594
@OP
What's interesting is the apparent reason you keep making these threads, despite them never really going anywhere.
You seem to think that you're having a very profound effect on the users here, evoking strong emotions and challenging our fundamental principles with your "simple lines of questions".
In reality, people either ignore your musings, or debate you for a while before moving along. I can assure you, nobody here is being so profoundly affected by your posts. And I have never seen anybody "instantly agree" with these posts of yours either.
@654,585 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Okay, since you keep harping on about rape is subjective, I have to ask.
What's your opinion of rape?
What's interesting is the apparent reason you keep making these threads, despite them never really going anywhere.
You seem to think that you're having a very profound effect on the users here, evoking strong emotions and challenging our fundamental principles with your "simple lines of questions".
In reality, people either ignore your musings, or debate you for a while before moving along. I can assure you, nobody here is being so profoundly affected by your posts. And I have never seen anybody "instantly agree" with these posts of yours either.
@654,585 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Okay, since you keep harping on about rape is subjective, I have to ask.
What's your opinion of rape?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,596
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
That's a lot to ask, especially from someone who thought it was just best to ignore these "line of questions" of mine.
I do not think I'm having a profound effects on the users here. If you would have actually read any of those special topics of mine, including this one, you would have notice that i agree that it is indeed truth itself that people shouldn't rape. Thanks.
That's a lot to ask, especially from someone who thought it was just best to ignore these "line of questions" of mine.
I do not think I'm having a profound effects on the users here. If you would have actually read any of those special topics of mine, including this one, you would have notice that i agree that it is indeed truth itself that people shouldn't rape. Thanks.
McKenna Pearl joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 28 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,599
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,600
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,603
@OP
Is rock 'n' roll still the work of the devil?
Is rock 'n' roll still the work of the devil?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,604
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,605
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 15 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,607
@654,596 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
You think your topics are making us angry and sad, which is a bit of an overstatement. At most, I think it's confusion or annoyment. Oh, and you also said that we get scared, which an odd thing to say.
I also notice that anyone who doesn't "instantly agree" with you is apparently either scared, angry or sad. What, you don't think that anyone can disagree with you without being motivated by negative emotions? That seems a bit arrogant, Denmark guy.
You think your topics are making us angry and sad, which is a bit of an overstatement. At most, I think it's confusion or annoyment. Oh, and you also said that we get scared, which an odd thing to say.
I also notice that anyone who doesn't "instantly agree" with you is apparently either scared, angry or sad. What, you don't think that anyone can disagree with you without being motivated by negative emotions? That seems a bit arrogant, Denmark guy.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,609
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Eh, I'm not just talking about minichan. I also notice about you how you like to analyze people and think you are very good at it even though you aren't.
Eh, I'm not just talking about minichan. I also notice about you how you like to analyze people and think you are very good at it even though you aren't.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,611
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I don't have to be good at analysis to point out the obvious in what you're saying.
Even if you are talking about supposed other websites, you're still applying these claims to Minichan. So my points stand.
I don't have to be good at analysis to point out the obvious in what you're saying.
Even if you are talking about supposed other websites, you're still applying these claims to Minichan. So my points stand.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,612
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I never said it was only on minichan or even minichan itself but even you would admit as you have said yourself, that it makes some very uncomfortable. Maybe not scared but uneasy.
But if you don't mind me asking, what is the point of this conversation?
I never said it was only on minichan or even minichan itself but even you would admit as you have said yourself, that it makes some very uncomfortable. Maybe not scared but uneasy.
But if you don't mind me asking, what is the point of this conversation?
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,613
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I said that your repeated mentions of rape could make people uncomfortable, not your overall talk about morality and subjectivity. Nobody is scared or upset or angry about that stuff.
The point of this conversation is to discuss the claims that you yourself first brought up.
I said that your repeated mentions of rape could make people uncomfortable, not your overall talk about morality and subjectivity. Nobody is scared or upset or angry about that stuff.
The point of this conversation is to discuss the claims that you yourself first brought up.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,614
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Well I'm glad to hear it. I guess words can be deceiving on the Internet. I'm just a little lost because you start in this thread by saying it's best to ignore my confusing and annoying talk about this subject. But now you want to talk about it?
Well I'm glad to hear it. I guess words can be deceiving on the Internet. I'm just a little lost because you start in this thread by saying it's best to ignore my confusing and annoying talk about this subject. But now you want to talk about it?
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,615
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I'm not talking about your views on morality, I'm talking about your views on Minichan's posters.
I'm not talking about your views on morality, I'm talking about your views on Minichan's posters.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,616
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Okay.... You did ask me about rape though but I guess you don't have more questions?
Okay.... You did ask me about rape though but I guess you don't have more questions?
Anonymous F replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,674
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #654,700
@previous (F)
Instigating little shit..... Message received and I'm gonna keep quiet for some time but i just have to tell you, those three words are beautiful together.
Instigating little shit..... Message received and I'm gonna keep quiet for some time but i just have to tell you, those three words are beautiful together.