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Topic: A relationship with God

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E started this discussion 10 years ago #50,267

Externally hosted imageI bet you have heard that we all worship the same God but just in a different way.

Expanding on that idea- have you ever heard it asked why the stories in the Bible remain the same number, why it's as if all the important stuff happened a long time ago and nothing is happening in our current times? Usually the answer is that the important stuff is still happening, that miracles still happen. But why then does the doctrines of so many religion's remain unchanged after so many years?

It's because their idea is a relationship with the right religion and god, anything different is surly not the right thing.

But it's not about the right religion or god, it's about a relationship with God and like all the things we have a relationship with, there is no manual. The relationship evolves on its own and we don't relate to the same thing in the same way.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #652,419

You should establish a relationship with your meds. Then you might not need an imaginary friend.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,421

@previous (B)

In what way is god imaginary?

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,423

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZlut387wh0

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,424

Denmark dude. Bet you also believe in the Tooth Fairy.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,425

@652,421 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
In that people are asserting that God exists without proof?

Until a one true God can be verified, I will stick to praying to my shrine to Papa Legba.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,428

@previous (E)

But you also believe in things without proof, so who are you to tell me it's silly?

Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,433

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
How would you know what some anonymous person on a BBS believes? Please back up your statements with claims.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 32 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,434

@652,423 (C)

What a nice song.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,437

Externally hosted image@652,428 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Hey you live in Denmark now. Many many Gods of Denmark. Go and pray to this one near by you.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 12 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,438

@652,433 (E)

Well I assume he thinks it's true that women shouldn't be raped... For example.

In this world we are in, there is no proof that we as people should not harm each other. Yet we believe it, because it's true even without evidence.

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,442

@652,428 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I'll admit, I do believe in some things that have no proof

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,444

@652,438 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Kill yourself, then let us know if you met your imaginary friend.

Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,448

@652,438 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> Well I assume he thinks it's true that women shouldn't be raped... For example.

I'm not even going to dignify this with a thoughtful response.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 25 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,449

@652,442 (kook !!mCVqftDha)

Well there you go bud.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 30 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,451

@652,448 (E)

And I know it's because you can't.

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,452

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Kill yourself dumbass

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 38 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,454

@652,449 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I believe in the Illuminati and shadow people

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 43 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,455

@652,451 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
No. They just know that your mind is too warped to hold a meaningful conversation, so they save themselves the trouble.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,456

@652,452 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)

Or what? You will waste more of your life being a bitch on minichan? Go ahead.

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 55 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,457

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
You're the bitch who has an emotional breakdown on here every other week.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 16 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,458

@652,455 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)

The trouble of knowing it's a fact that moral beliefs are only true if you do indeed believe them?

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,461

@652,457 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)

And here you are, acting like a bitch to someone you consider weak. How on earth can you expect me to respect you?

Adam Jensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 22 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,463

@652,438 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
You really need to learn the difference between a fact and an opinion

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,464

@previous (Adam Jensen)

Opinion is not something that is true is it? Thus it's not a opinion that women should not be raped, because it's true

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,467

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Why are you always talking about rape and pedophilia
You got a sick mind buddy

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,468

@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)

At least it isnt being a bitch and always telling people to kill themselves. Buddy.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,469

@652,467 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
Everyone needs a hobby

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 59 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,471

@652,467 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
Seriously. Can't he use it being true that ice cream is good as an example.

@652,464 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)

> Opinion is not something that is true is it?
Please rephrase.

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,473

@previous (Adam Jensen)
For real
Even 'Is rape bad' would have been better than 'should women be raped'

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo double-posted this 10 years ago, 28 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,474

@652,471 (Adam Jensen)
But Ice cream would have been grate

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 41 seconds later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #652,475

I can't believe this has been ruined to the degree where you idiots are revealing your spiritual illiteracy and potentially associated autism. Ahahahahaha. Get fucked, spergs.

Have my condolensces for yet another sidetracked discussion, Denmark Guy.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,477

@652,471 (Adam Jensen)

" a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty"

Yet we are all certain that we should not rape people. Or are you not certain? Do you not think it's true?

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 9 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,478

@652,475 (J)
When did actual 'spergs' start calling everyone else 'spergs'
Have you guys noticed

(Edited 12 seconds later.)

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,479

@652,475 (J)
Sorry, J

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,480

@652,475 (J)

Thanks bud.

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,483

@652,477 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Everyone holding the same opinion doesn't make it fact. Also I don't think that's a good definition, the Oxford an Merriam-Webster have better ones.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,486

@previous (Adam Jensen)

So you do indeed not believe it to be true?

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,488

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I also believe in red rooms

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,490

@652,486 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Why do you define words so weirdly?

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,493

@652,488 (kook !!mCVqftDha)

That's not unreasonable to believe. There has been a actual case resembling that. Instead it evolved the molestation of children.

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

What do you mean?

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,495

@652,486 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I don't believe it to be a fact. A fact requires an observable, objective way of looking at something which you can't do with ice cream or religion.

There is no way to prove that ice cream is indeed good though most will say it is and there's no way to prove existence of a God but that's alright. You are still free to believe in such a thing.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,498

@previous (Adam Jensen)

Of course you are free to believe. But my point is that most people believe in truth outside of facts or opinions. They don't need proof for basic human moral beliefs, they believe them to be true anyway and this is good.

So in a way, I disregard the opinion that people should not believe in anything without proof.

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,499

@652,493 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> molestation of children
There he goes again

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,501

@previous (dreamworks skg llc, ltd.)

But it's true. I have heard of such a case.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,503

@652,493 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I mean you don't know what the word "should" means, and I don't think you really understand that there is such a thing as non-empirical evidence.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,504

@652,499 (dreamworks skg llc, ltd.)
dw where the fuck have you been?

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,505

@652,498 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Believing to be true = opinion
Actually objectively, provably true = fact

> So in a way, I disregard the opinion that people should not believe in anything without proof.

that's not what I said though. I just said that when you believe in something without proof, it's an opinion. Not a truth.

Adam Jensen double-posted this 10 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,506

@652,504 (C)
I am dw he is fake dw!

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,508

@652,505 (Adam Jensen)

So is believing god to exist a opinion?

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,510

@652,504 (C)
yeah Adam Jensen is obviously the real dw I'm just dw

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,511

@652,508 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Yes.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,513

@previous (Adam Jensen)

The idea that Women should not be raped... Opinion as well?

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,515

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
No

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,516

@previous (dreamworks skg llc, ltd.)

So there is proof that people should not do that?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 19 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,517

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
What do you mean proof?

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,518

@652,513 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Do you randomly and very casually bring up rape in real life conversation too? It's fucking creepy and I don't really feel comfortable talking about it like this

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,520

@652,517 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

What do you mean, what do i mean?

Are you just here to argue semantics?

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,521

@652,518 (Adam Jensen)

No I don't. But I don't think it's a matter of opinion if people should not rape. That's what you think.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,523

@652,520 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I mean...what do you mean? What counts as "proof"? What distinguishes proof from regular evidence? Why can't something be both an opinion and a fact? I don't understand any of your terminology.

(Edited 12 seconds later.)

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,524

@652,521 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Stop putting words in my mouth you disgusting fuck

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,525

@652,523 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

Well fact is often described as being supported by evidence. Thus people who only believe facts can reveal the truth often criticize the belief in god for lacking in fact or evidence.

So I show them that if only evidence and facts reveal that which is true, they live in a world where they don't think it's true that women should not be raped.


@previous (Adam Jensen)

Nvm.

RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,526

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
What is with this rape analogy? You repeatedly go back to even though it's making people uncomfortable, and needlessly stalling the discussion.

Are you actively trying to weird people out?

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #652,528

@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)

The rape analogy is purposely there because even the most skeptical person will throw their commitment to facts and evidence out the Window if it meant they could still believe that rape shouldn't happen as a matter of truth.

RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,531

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
So... People saying it makes them uncomfortable doesn't really bother you, then? Better they get over their aversion to rape than you use a different analogy?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,534

@652,525 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Again...you're just making random assumptions. There are very good reasons for believing that women shouldn't be raped, and yet because you have some weird definitions of opinion, truth, evidence and proof, somehow those good reasons don't exist or don't count. I don't understand your perspective.

Metæ⭐️ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,535

@OP
> why the stories in the Bible remain the same number, why it's as if all the important stuff happened a long time ago and nothing is happening in our current times?
Yes! As a kid this always bugged me. If you read the bible, it's really exciting stuff: water into wine, people being turned into pillars of salt, global floods, staffs being turned into serpents, seas being parted, plagues, etc but since Jesus left it's been pretty damn boring. This was the main reason as a child I didn't believe it. That, and the fact that every religion is the One True Faith and they can't all be right so most of them have to be wrong.

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 44 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,536

@652,516 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)

It's called the law

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,537

@652,531 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)

Well if i used a different analogy that didn't call into question where something obviously believed by all as wrong.... Then they would have no problem claiming they don't believe in what ever i call into question.

So I get them to admit that they also believe in certain moral things as true. If they don't admit it, I throw it in their face that they don't believe something like that women should not be raped etc...

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,547

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
That's stupid

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,553

@652,534 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

Well you say this, but you only say it.

@652,536 (M)

So the law is like the Bible? It's true because the law says so?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,554

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Can you say things in a way that is clear and intelligible?

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,555

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
well you say this but only you say it

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 40 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,556

@previous (dreamworks skg llc, ltd.)
Thanks that clarified everything.

Anonymous M replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,558

@652,553 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)

its a logical reason retard. The law forbidding rape means that it's true people shouldn't rape.

Oh wait I get it. You weren't looking for a practical reason why, you were looking for a moral reason why.

Okay I understand now. Yes, believing that women shouldn't rape is an opinion and based on a persons individual moral sense of what is good and what is bad. There is no such thing as universal fixed morality.

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,559

@previous (M)
someone is a slave to the state

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 35 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,566

@652,553 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> Well you say this, but you only say it.
Logic!

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,568

@652,554 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

Okay.... You claim to have good reason. Can you explain?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 41 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,589

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Sure. Let's start with a simple reason. Victims of rape suffer extreme pain, both physical and emotional that lasts for the rest of their lives. What is wrong with that reason? Why is that not sufficient to conclude that it shouldn't be done?

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,612

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

It's enough for me to conclude that no woman should be raped. But in this conversation, I adopted the position of a man who only concerns himself with the factual but not the religious or belief, so I ask, what facts are there to support the idea that harm and trauma is bad?

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 6 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,656

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
You fucking dunce
Do you want me to come over there and harm you?
It's not a bad thing
People love to be harmed
Obviously

Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,659

The biggest trick the devil pulled off, was convincing everyone that he is god

Anonymous E replied with this 10 years ago, 24 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,660

@652,612 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> But in this conversation, I adopted the position of a man who only concerns himself with the factual but not the religious

Have you read the shit you wrote in the OP?

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,696

@652,659 (Dead !Pool..v42s)
> The biggest trick the devil pulled off, was convincing everyone that he is god

Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 27 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,702

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Old Testament God is Satan.

Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,709

@652,442 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
This was already apparent to anyone around when you start discussing gender or autism.

Anonymous M replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,711

@652,568 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)

Why U ignore me

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 35 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,717

@652,656 (dreamworks skg llc, ltd.)
Because autistic men in dresses must have lady brains

dreamworks skg llc, ltd. replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #652,743

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
The fuck are you talking about kook? Did you break and just start spouting trans misogyny at random?

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #652,778

@previous (dreamworks skg llc, ltd.)
No I was making a reference to a poster above me
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