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Topic: Dreaming about your somewhat heavyset and vaguely more 'masculine' childhood friend...

!MLHqI35Srs started this discussion 10 years ago #49,818

...being forcibly transitioned, incl. humiliatingly homoerotic incestual submission with their dad, whilst you're left for naught, cucked, and made to forcibly and even more humiliatingly stay stationarily cucked at a more rudientary stage of crossdressing (which is okay when you envisage yourself as nearly eleven years younger), and submit to said friend's wiles when they're 'allowed out of the cage.'

Yes, I've been reflecting on this a lot, considering I did suspect him to have latently trans-ish tendencies. He was certainly effeminate even if he hid it with wizard-esque video-game addicted shutinnery.

(Edited 40 seconds later.)

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #647,501

> ...being forcibly transitioned, incl. humiliatingly homoerotic incestual submission with their dad

Why did I read this? Why do you write like this?

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,502

@previous (B)
It stems from his wizard-esque video-game addicted shutinnery.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 26 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,503

Sexually degenerate weirdo.

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,504

A tranny with a feminization fetish. thats rare.

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,505

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
It more just subsumes itself under a general domination/humiliation fetish. The key here is that the imposition of ordinarily unpleasant things makes it exciting, not the feminization.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,506

@previous (!MLHqI35Srs)
So the turning self into some kind of female is to more better accommodate daddy.
Even I find this beyond comprehension.

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,508

@previous (F)
What daddy says, goes! How is that difficult to understand?
When you're being denied pleasure too (hence 'the cage' as in a chastity belt), frustrated desires climb on overdrive to the degree where even vicariously derived pleasure (fellatio, anallingus etc.) offers a "release".
Then comes the shaudenfreude. The submissive sissy partner to daddy has just basically cleaned the residue of feces from the previously condom-covered but botched-by-dissolution cock of his originator and eaten the seed of his origination, YET, he will proceed to impose himself on the even bigger loser in this scenario: myself. And that prospect, of being the waste of sperm of a waste of sperm, excites me in an intellectually abstract, schezeresade-like recursive way.

(Edited 3 minutes later.)

Anonymous F replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,510

@previous (!MLHqI35Srs)
Not about to buy your latest text post after that last suicide attempt. Brain is fried.
> anallingus
Shtick.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,511

@previous (F)
*schlick

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 22 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,512

@647,510 (F)
Unlike Matt, I actually did try it. Ate all of Emma's poop. Will never regret that much, at least.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #647,513

@previous (!MLHqI35Srs)
That probably deserves it's own topic altogether

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 40 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,528

@647,505 (!MLHqI35Srs)
I don't believe you

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,538

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
It's disappointing that you've chosen now to distrust me when I've been nothing but direct.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 57 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,539

@previous (!MLHqI35Srs)
I don't think that you're being intentionally deceitful at all.

squeegee joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,541

@647,528 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
yeah... idk why people thinks gender means explaining your sexual fetishes to anyone who'll listen. even gays don't go around talking about wiping their shit covered dick off after sex as if that's one of the defining traits of being gay. i don't get why so many "transexuals" seem to think that posting their preferred kind of sex (top/bottom) is something that should be shared on facebook. no straight people are going around explaining how they are straight and prefer bondage and masochism to more vanilla sex - as if that's something that speaks to your character. no one cares if you're a cucked submissive sissy fagot with a daddy. wtf. keep that shit to yourself. all you're doing is making you appear to be some kind of weird pervert who's confused fetishes with lifestyle.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,543

@previous (squeegee)
> some kind of weird pervert who's confused fetishes with lifestyle.

Thats every tranny ever though. Many tranny get involved in the sex trade because of it too

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,546

@647,541 (squeegee)
@previous (C)
Yeah I agree with both of you

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,547

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I've not confused any of my fetishes with who I am. They're independent of each other.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #647,548

@previous (!MLHqI35Srs)
Okay but bio women dont have forced feminization fetishes. thats a strictly bio male thing.

squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,550

@647,543 (C)
i think there may be some truth in what you're saying. i've heard that before, actually. i've been told that the more passable they are the more likely they are to be prostitutes. for male to female anyway. i don't know if it's because they are drawn to the sex trade by interest or pushed into it by necessity. i know it can be a challenge for some to find viable life long work, but many do. personally i think it's got to do with where their ambitions lie. it's such a huge ordeal to transition, it takes so long and can be so difficult that it's bound to occupy a great deal of time and effort and money. the surgeries are expensive as fuck i'd imagine, so while everyone else is getting loans for school and obsessing over careers some transexuals obsess over getting money for cosmetic surgery and obsess over achieving transition before anything else. i think it's got to set all but the most well off individuals back professionally.

i can see sex work as being a big draw just because of the amount of money you can quickly build up, and you certainly don't need school to be a ho. i guess i don't really know if transexuals are over represented in the prostitute world, but that's what i've heard. it's sad.

idk, in psychiatry don't they always say stuff is a problem when it starts to interfere with you life? like depression or addictions and stuff? it's not good to be so obsessed with something that your entire life is dedicated to it at the detriment of your own future. and working as a prostitute explicitly to pursue the surgical side of things isn't mentally healthy, nor physically healthy. or even remotely safe. i think that kind of behavior speaks to obsessive or compulsive behavior. and then with all the weird sexual preoccupations and fetishes... idk, i'm not a shrink but i'd question what i was doing if i was encouraging people down a path with such treacherous turns.

edit: and actually now that i think about it that might be exactly the reason why so many individuals find it hard to transition the traditional way and have to do it themselves by taking birth control and getting surgery in mexico or going to "consent clinics" or whatever Walter always tells catherine to do. maybe shrink do see that it's not exactly always about "gender" and sometimes IS about sexual preoccupations and fetishes. i guess not every person seeking to transition gets the establishment blessing.

(Edited 4 minutes later.)

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,551

@647,548 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
A lot of that may have to do with the heightened level of idealization thereof, by a group typically denied the privilege in many circumstances. Women are overconditioned femininity to a degree of insipidity in many instances and they grow bored with it. Not that I believe it's healthy, but it's more than sexually objectivizing fetishism for its own sake. I argue it's one of many alternative gateways to more severe transgenderism.

That's not to say all transgender biomales with coincidental interests in feminization and add it as plotlines of their fantasies (notice, my friend was really the one being feminized against his will) actually fetishize it proper.

What's more, I have most certainly seen fetishization-by-proxy of the feminization of men into 'little girls' by dominating "mother" role partners.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 59 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,553

@647,550 (squeegee)
Also the trannies who tend to pass are the gay bio males, while the straight bio males dont pass and are usually autistic

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,554

@647,551 (!MLHqI35Srs)
But even the fetishization by proxy is a fantasy of bio males.

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,555

@647,553 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Scientifically speaking that's bullshit. Homosexuality in males is correlated with lower digit ratios and higher incidences of autism. The heterosexuality seen in transfemales is usually - but not always, perhaps always coinciding with a pre-existing bisexuality - an after-the-fact phenomenon caused by hormone exposure and the long maturation time of a certain part of the brain known for regulating sexuality, which develops well past the rest of it. As for the straight biomales who don't pass, are usually autistic, and if you're lucky, a type-2 on the Benjamin scale in all actuality, they're obvious pretenders.

(Edited 3 minutes later.)

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,556

@647,554 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Oh, you think? There are a disturbingly high number of born-womyn perverts on some of the sissy sites I used to attend; the majority of stories, moreover, were written by women (who tend to have a better developed ability in this craft anyway).

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,557

@647,555 (!MLHqI35Srs)
pretenders of what?

squeegee replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,558

@647,551 (!MLHqI35Srs)
> still just talking about your preoccupation with sex

it's like all you ever do, that and be racist. can't you talk about normal stuff like a nice young lady? do you always have to be so crass, you talk like a perverted sailor.
try having a normal conversation like a proper young lady should. you might meet a nice young man that way. but if you keep up with the frat house slut act then you're never going to get a husband. and no one is ever going to call you a woman until you act like it. atm you're acting like some sick fuck pervert on craigslist.

squeegee double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,559

@647,556 (!MLHqI35Srs)
i wonder if they were written by women, or "women." a glance at the subject matter and i'm going to guess "women" wrote those stories. not women.
which means men probably wrote them, btw.

!MLHqI35Srs (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,560

@647,557 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Well, going by the logic that your functional definition of transgenderism is '"pretending" to be a girl', with mine more aligning to '"pretending" to be a girl with conviction', there are people sad enough to pretend-to-pretend with no real truth to their conviction, like Chris-chan and ADF.

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kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,563

@previous (!MLHqI35Srs)
Wait, will you please explain more about your opinion on those that pretend to pretend, like ADF?

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 51 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,569

@647,548 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Do women ever have forced masculinization fantasies?

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 22 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,574

@previous (H)
I've never seen it

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,577

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Yeah, I guess that would be pretty weird, wouldn't it?

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,652

Friendly reminder that kook does not understand how gender works, and considers her visits to fetish websites to be better research than that done by scientists.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,653

@previous (I)
yup

sophie is a fucked up freak tho and so is kook
this thread make me uncomfortable

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 49 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,663

@647,652 (I)
I think you have less of an understanding than kook, because you consider your visits to tumblr to be better research than that done by scientists.

Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,665

@previous (C)
No, I consider reading research papers and attending college lectures to be better research than visits to Tumblr.

kook agrees with you, though.

@647,653 (J)
Indeed.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,672

@previous (I)
How is that Gender Studies Degree working out for you? I heard they just opened a big gender studies factory and are hiring workers that need to pay off large student debts.

Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,674

@previous (C)
I'm studying a psychology degree, actually. A qualification with transferable skills and a high rate of employment. Nice try, though.

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,676

@previous (I)
Is your name Toni?

Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,678

@previous (H)
I am, in fact, and in all actuality, not a defunct Mattsona™.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,679

@647,674 (I)
Did you ever play Guess Who as a child?

Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 39 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,682

@previous (C)
Yeah. I mained Eric.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #647,689

@previous (I)

> Yeah. I mained Eric.

You sound like a psychologist.
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