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Topic: Why is it considered antisemitic to deny the Holocaust?

Anonymous A started this discussion 10 years ago #49,731

There are lots of disagreements about historical events but for some reason people associate this one with hate? I don't really get it.

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later[^] [v] #646,418

because it happened and people's motives for denying the holocaust are usually pretty foul
as with pretty much every other conspiracy theory these days

Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #646,424

It's quite interesting. If you say "the Rwanda genocide was way overblown — I bet the real death toll was more like 100,000 Tutsi not a million" people will just say "huh? what's a Tutsi?".

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #646,435

@previous (Metæ)
how is that interesting and why would you make that statement to somebody who doesn't know about the Rwandan genocide

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #646,438

@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
Eh?

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #646,456

@646,435 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
How would you know that they don't know until you mention it?

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #646,458

@646,424 (Metæ)
I'm reading a book about it now, and its so horrifying.

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,501

@646,456 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
idt 'this genocide is blown out of proportion' is generally an acceptable statement in any case and certainly not as a lead in to a discussion on said genocide
is my point

Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,505

@646,458 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
What's really weird is America just stood by and let it happen. Whatever happened to "never again"?

I mean it's not like it would have been hard to stop, it's Rwanda. What do they even have? Sticks? Rocks? A rusty AK-47?

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,508

@646,501 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
that doesnt make sense to me

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,509

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I meant unacceptable if that makes a difference
I am durnk
I misspelled that on purpose i'm not green

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,512

Also I'm gay lol.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,513

@646,509 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
Oh I see. You worded all of that very strangely. What are you drinking?

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 37 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,514

@646,505 (Metæ)
Because that area was already a shithole. They use guns and machetes

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 43 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,535

@646,513 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I made tang with vodka

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,541

@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
How was it?

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 22 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,547

@646,512 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
I think it is.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 40 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,554

@646,424 (Metæ)
Wait, what? Are you saying holocaust denial is okay because the average American doesn't recognize other atrocities? I'm not seeing where you are going with this. The average American might not know about the Armenian genocide either. Does that make ignoring other wartime atrocities okay?

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,557

Because it happened and to deny this fact is essentially saying that innocent people weren't killed.

Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,574

@646,554 (H)
I didn't say anything about Holocaust denial. What I said was: there's not much awareness of the Rwandan genocide and I don't think the Western world was sincere in it's post-Holocaust promise of "never again" because they let it happen, again.

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,594

@previous (Metæ)
Is it not taught in American schools? I know they went over the Rwandan genocide and the UN fuckup in 11th grade social studies.

Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 42 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,602

@previous (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
It might be. If it was in mine, I certainly don't remember it.

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,643

@646,574 (Metæ)
Given the topic, I mistook your remarks for a glancing commentary on holocaust denial. I see now you were entirely focused on criticizing the "never again" promise rather than making any statements about holocaust denial. Sorry for implying otherwise.

Also, thank you for the lucid and compelling essay you PM'd me to explain what you meant. (And I'm not being facetious - that was really a compelling reply. You can write some killer to-the-point prose when the mood strikes you.)

Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,662

@646,594 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Never was taught in my high school

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,664

@previous (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
That's a little fucked.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,665

@previous (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
It wasn't taught in my highschool either

MLHqI35Srs joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 22 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,886

because jews are professional victims

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,890

@646,662 (Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo)
@646,665 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Well, if there's no corporate sponsorship or religious lobbying for something, it's just not taught in USAmerican schools
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