Topic: I just got Trump's book The Art of the Deal and will be reading it.
Metæ started this discussion 10 years ago #49,707
In a couple days I'll let you know what I think of it.
Metæ (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #646,200
I should add I will be reading it on a Fully-Defragmented (pronounced as one word) Amazon® third-generation (pronounced as June of 2015) Kindlæ Paperwhite™.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,252
so did you read it
Metæ (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 4 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,271
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Getting there. Interesting fact: Trump doesn't drink or smoke which is an attribute shared with Adolf Hitler, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett and Larry Ellison. It almost makes me consider not drinking anymore.
Getting there. Interesting fact: Trump doesn't drink or smoke which is an attribute shared with Adolf Hitler, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffett and Larry Ellison. It almost makes me consider not drinking anymore.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,273
@previous (Metæ)
He doesn't drink (anymore) because his brother was a raging alcoholic. Donald abandoned his brother, who later died, then refused to take care of the widow or the kids.
He doesn't drink (anymore) because his brother was a raging alcoholic. Donald abandoned his brother, who later died, then refused to take care of the widow or the kids.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 3 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,292
Are you better at making deals, yet?
Metæ (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,295
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 50 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,298
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,305
I really like smoking and drinking. It's what a real man does.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 5 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #646,337
scotch in your work desk, given to you by the boss who knows what work is all about, and he chomps on a cigar
Metæ (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,462
Key takeaways so far:
1. Think big.
2. No you retard, I mean BIG! BIGGER THAN BIG!
3. Trump is not very sentimental.
4. Becoming a real estate tycoon is probably easier when your father is a real estate tycoon and gives you a million dollar loan (in the 1970s when that was real money).
5. Trump always says one or two nice things about someone, then trashes them (e.g. "I went to Wharton with Joey, great guy, fantastic father but he's a total fucking moron who couldn't build an Ikea coffee table, let alone a convention center in Manhattan")
6. Trump's style is simple and to the point. I really like this. More matter with less art.
1. Think big.
2. No you retard, I mean BIG! BIGGER THAN BIG!
THINK BIG!
3. Trump is not very sentimental.
4. Becoming a real estate tycoon is probably easier when your father is a real estate tycoon and gives you a million dollar loan (in the 1970s when that was real money).
5. Trump always says one or two nice things about someone, then trashes them (e.g. "I went to Wharton with Joey, great guy, fantastic father but he's a total fucking moron who couldn't build an Ikea coffee table, let alone a convention center in Manhattan")
6. Trump's style is simple and to the point. I really like this. More matter with less art.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,465
@previous (Metæ)
Trump only talks about the $1 million dollar loan he got from daddy.
Trump inherited his daddy's company. Pegged value $400 million.
In 1990, due to excessive leveraging, The Trump Organization revealed that it was $8.8 billion in debt. Bailed out by banks.
Trump only talks about the $1 million dollar loan he got from daddy.
Trump inherited his daddy's company. Pegged value $400 million.
In 1990, due to excessive leveraging, The Trump Organization revealed that it was $8.8 billion in debt. Bailed out by banks.
Metæ (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,503
@previous (G)
> Trump inherited his daddy's company. Pegged value $400 million
Trump's father didn't die till 1999 by which point Trump had his own fortune so I'd say the inheritance is moot. The real benefit wasn't the inheritance or even the $1,000,000 loan but being brought up in the business, introduced to the right people and having a name which opened doors.
The person I'd be really interested in reading about is Fred Trump who apparently did have a rags to riches story.
> Trump inherited his daddy's company. Pegged value $400 million
Trump's father didn't die till 1999 by which point Trump had his own fortune so I'd say the inheritance is moot. The real benefit wasn't the inheritance or even the $1,000,000 loan but being brought up in the business, introduced to the right people and having a name which opened doors.
The person I'd be really interested in reading about is Fred Trump who apparently did have a rags to riches story.
Metæ (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,580
On TheStreet.com article 10 Things You Learn Reading Donald Trump's 'The Art of the Deal'
This quote (I just got to page 183) is taken completely out of context. The coop boards (not Trump) were discriminatory against wealthy foreigners and Trump was not. The other buildings discrimination was profitable to Trump because Trump Tower let in anyone with the money and as a consequence filled up quickly. I don't know how or why Trump's views on discrimination changed since 1987 but this guy either just skimmed the book or he's deliberately lying about the Trump's views in the book.
3. Trump has benefited from keeping the wrong people out.
From pages 181 and 182 of The Art of the Deal: "At the time we began selling Trump Tower, it was virtually the only condominium in New York...To buy a cooperative — which is what most buildings in New York were at the time — you need approval from its board of directors, who have ridiculous, arbitrary powers, including the right to demand all kinds of financial data, social references, and personal interviews. Then they can reject you for any reason they choose, without explanation. It's a license to discriminate...It's absurd and probably illegal, but it happened to be great for Trump Tower."
While Trump adds that the commonplace discrimination is "absurd," he can't help but revel in how good it was for his business. When it comes to how the U.S. should look at immigrants, perhaps Trump has learned this lesson: No matter how "absurd" or "probably illegal," discriminating against people you don't want to let in can be good for business.
From pages 181 and 182 of The Art of the Deal: "At the time we began selling Trump Tower, it was virtually the only condominium in New York...To buy a cooperative — which is what most buildings in New York were at the time — you need approval from its board of directors, who have ridiculous, arbitrary powers, including the right to demand all kinds of financial data, social references, and personal interviews. Then they can reject you for any reason they choose, without explanation. It's a license to discriminate...It's absurd and probably illegal, but it happened to be great for Trump Tower."
While Trump adds that the commonplace discrimination is "absurd," he can't help but revel in how good it was for his business. When it comes to how the U.S. should look at immigrants, perhaps Trump has learned this lesson: No matter how "absurd" or "probably illegal," discriminating against people you don't want to let in can be good for business.
This quote (I just got to page 183) is taken completely out of context. The coop boards (not Trump) were discriminatory against wealthy foreigners and Trump was not. The other buildings discrimination was profitable to Trump because Trump Tower let in anyone with the money and as a consequence filled up quickly. I don't know how or why Trump's views on discrimination changed since 1987 but this guy either just skimmed the book or he's deliberately lying about the Trump's views in the book.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 10 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,638
@previous (Metæ)
Jesus Christ who the fuck at that site is responsible? That's fucking infuriating. Goddamn son of a bitch.
Jesus Christ who the fuck at that site is responsible? That's fucking infuriating. Goddamn son of a bitch.
Anonymous G replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,645
@646,580 (Metæ)
> While Trump adds that the commonplace discrimination is "absurd," he can't help but revel in how good it was for his business. When it comes to how the U.S. should look at immigrants, perhaps Trump >has learned this lesson: No matter how "absurd" or "probably illegal," discriminating against people you don't want to let in can be good for business.
He has very high moral standards. Proof he is really a quality Evangelical Christian.
> While Trump adds that the commonplace discrimination is "absurd," he can't help but revel in how good it was for his business. When it comes to how the U.S. should look at immigrants, perhaps Trump >has learned this lesson: No matter how "absurd" or "probably illegal," discriminating against people you don't want to let in can be good for business.
He has very high moral standards. Proof he is really a quality Evangelical Christian.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,652
@646,580 (Metæ)> this guy either just skimmed the book or he's deliberately lying about the Trump's views in the book.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 55 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,658
@646,580 (Metæ)
If it's false, why hasn't Donnie filed a defamation suit? Is it because it's actually true?
If it's false, why hasn't Donnie filed a defamation suit? Is it because it's actually true?
Metæ (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #646,675
@646,645 (G)
In page 182 he describes how the building filled up with wealthy Arabs, then the Arabs all left afte the 1986 oil bust, then it filled up with wealthy South Americans and Japanese. In 1987 at least, all Trump cared about was money.
@646,645 (G)
No go back and read it again very slowly. The other guys discrimination was profitable for Trump.
@previous (I)
I heard he was busy running for governor of Iowa or something.
In page 182 he describes how the building filled up with wealthy Arabs, then the Arabs all left afte the 1986 oil bust, then it filled up with wealthy South Americans and Japanese. In 1987 at least, all Trump cared about was money.
@646,645 (G)
No go back and read it again very slowly. The other guys discrimination was profitable for Trump.
@previous (I)
I heard he was busy running for governor of Iowa or something.