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Topic: Why are there more MTF than FTM transgender people?

Anonymous A started this discussion 10 years ago #49,406

Serious question. Thanks.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #642,427

because women are not looked down upon for casually dressing/acting like men in western society.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 35 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #642,428

Nice kookbait.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #642,430

@previous (C)
Do you really think it is nice? That's a pretty kind thing to say.

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 9 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #642,433

Because more males are autistic, and since there is no stigma againt females in masculine clothing, trhere is also no fetishes built around said stigma.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 11 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #642,434

@642,430 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #642,435

I really need to find a book (and audiobook) about gender identity and sexuality.
I really want to read more.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,460

because its a fetish and has nothing to do with any of the social constructs they claim to be against

Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,463

to play with tits

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,465

@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
I'd buy that, except most may as well just save a lot of money and buy some silicone bags to play with.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,467

What happens when a fetus that will become a male, is exposed to abnormal levels of estrogen? It messes up the fetal growth.

Given that there is some evidence of such a thing as a section of the brain which is responsible for gender identity, chemicals that mimic estrogen can be looked at as a contributing factor when it comes mtf transsexuals.

But since transsexuals have existed before times of chemical pollution, you can only explain it by "just because", as in this fairly common mutation just happens more to future male fetuses.

Metæ joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 10 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,530

@642,433 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
The interesting thing is the stigma is enforced by both men and women.

WSD !gxgZS8.pz2 joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 27 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,531

@642,467 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
According to Cohen, autists are exposed to high levels of testosterone in the womb. Yet autists, according to a British study, make up about 5% of all transfolk. Perhaps it is a case of overexposure to both?

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E replied with this 10 years ago, 28 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,532

@previous (WSD !gxgZS8.pz2)

I don't know about that. If i had to take a guess, I would guess that high levels of testosterone could also result in higher levels of estrogen.

I base this on something i think I read a long time ago about how estrogen is actually a product of testosterone which has been converted into estrogen.

Jenny McCarthy joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 48 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,535

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
It's obviously vaccines.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 10 years ago, 39 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,536

@642,434 (C)

Wut

(Edited 10 seconds later.)

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 25 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,540

@642,530 (Metæ)
Yes it is. Even by transwomen.

Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 21 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,543

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I've been thinking about it and it's almost as if the male identity is more mature than the female one and so a man adopting femininity is regressing and this is the root of the taboo.

Like, as an example it's fine for a kid to get a cowboy hat and a cap gun and pretend to be a cowboy but it's just weird for a cowboy to put on a onesie and watch cartoons and pretend to be a kid. Just like it's cute and sweet for a girl to wear her boyfriend's shirt or something but for a boy to wear his girlfriends shirt is off-putting to both men and women.

I'm not trying to say that men are more advanced than women but gender bending is definitely more acceptable for women than men and it's both women and men that enforce it and I'm fascinated as to why.

(Edited 6 minutes later.)

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E replied with this 10 years ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,544

@previous (Metæ)

That's a very good question.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,545

@642,543 (Metæ)
I think that is part of it. The female gender roles encourage passivity

Anonymous F replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,550

@642,543 (Metæ)
Societal expectations have nothing to do with which sex is more mature, but the maturity of the sexes does influence societal expectations.

Men are clearly more immature than women which seems strange when you consider that women seem to retain more infertile interests such as stuff animals and other such things.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,567

@previous (F)
> women seem to retain more infertile interests such as stuff animals and other such things.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 10 years ago, 59 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,579

@642,550 (F)
> more infertile interests

Metæ replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,580

@642,567 (A)
You cannot, in fact, breed with a stuffed animal. Thanks.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #642,581

@642,550 (F)
I don't think that's fair to say. Men and women are both immature in different ways.
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