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Topic: Back in Hanover, Indiana...

Woody Boyd !Z80JM.7kU. started this discussion 10 years ago #49,264

Externally hosted imageTransgender people had to pay to use the public restrooms.

http://indianatalks.com/site/2016/01/indiana-lawmaker-introduces-pay-to-pee-bill-for-transgender-people/

WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 12 minutes later[^] [v] #641,071

The last thing we need in the female restrooms are high-T transmen, many still going through their new male puberty, forced into the same bathrooms as vulnerable women and little girls by these ridiculous lawmakers. Is it not safer to let the transwomen who have been castrated through their medicine or operation into the womens room?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #641,072

@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
God damn, either side with the trannies or stop trying to fuck them. I cannot tell which fucking side you're on whenever you're sprewing anti-trans shit everywhere while at the same time lusting for transwomen.

WSD !m2cp3rR5zw replied with this 10 years ago, 37 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #641,082

@previous (A)
I am trying to make a point here. TERFs and Christfag lawmakers, in an attempt to put transwomen back into the male restroom through force of law, will also force transmales into the female restroom. Why? Because they're terrified of "men in the womens room". Yet that's exactly what their stupid laws will do. And I am siding with trans people here.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,103

schools from ever allowing transgender students from using restrooms that match their gender identity. Students would only be identified by the sex assigned to them at birth as determined by their anatomy and chromosomes, and that sex would determine which facility they can and cannot use.


Man born man is a man. Woman born woman is a woman.

Case closed.
Add some hooks in restrooms for the Cos-Players.

Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 48 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,113

Just convert a broom closet or something to a private shitter and put "whatever" on the door. Just how often is a tranny going to appear in your building at random anyway. They can't be more than what, 30% of the population

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,117

I really don't see the problem with unisex bathrooms

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,124

@previous (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
I do not believe you.
It's not normal for a teen girl living at home to walk into family bathroom with dad pissing in a toilet.

Same for public restrooms.

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,141

@previous (C)
except public restrooms have stalls for privacy

Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,143

Just make a separate loo for transgender people.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,148

@641,141 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Stalls?
Even in movies and TV You can see men at urinals.
Get a boyfriend to sneak you in after dark to see.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 19 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,153

@641,103 (C)
Syntax detected.

RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,155

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
FuckAlms detected.

Syntax replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,157

@641,153 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Exactly

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,161

@641,117 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
So you'd have no problem with bert or Matt in the stall next to you?

@641,153 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Absentee mod detected.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,162

@previous (I)
> So you'd have no problem with bert or Matt in the stall next to you?
>
>
> Absentee mod detected.

There is virtually nothing left for him to Mod.

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 45 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,165

@641,071 (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
Most transtrenders don't use hormones or surgery.

WSD !m2cp3rR5zw replied with this 10 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,173

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Most transtrenders were born female.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,175

@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
I don't think so.

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,176

@641,165 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
there's a reason for that
it's actually pretty damn difficult/often prohibitively expensive to get HRT

@641,161 (I)
what could those two ineffectual creeps do that a woman with similarly ill intentions couldn't?

@641,148 (C)
urinals could also be stalled off
a little redesigning would be easy enough

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 16 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,177

@641,071 (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
It's funny that when pro trannys make their argument about toilets, they use the bearded women to men trannys as examples. Because it's easier for them to just take the hormones, beef up, get some tattoos and hurr it looks male.

When it's a butch man with a 5 o'clock shadow, strong jawline, and broad shoulders wearing a wig and a dress, everyone immediately understands that it is not what anyone wants around their vulnerable daughters while they use the bathroom.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,181

@641,176 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Also many of them just have fetishes

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,182

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
no not really

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,183

@previous (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Yes really. The type that visits sissy sites and masturbate while wearing their female relatives clothing. You're so deluded.

Adam Jensen joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 10 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,189

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
'yes really' implies that this is fact backed up by evidence

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,191

@previous (Adam Jensen)
I can find you many websites where fetish trannies hang out

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 7 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,192

@641,176 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Perhaps the added stalls solve the basic problem. Maybe with new building codes for new buildings. Putting in stalls instead of simple urinals is not going to work in existing buildings.
Wheel chair access etc make the modifications just not practical.

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,196

@641,191 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Do you have any statistics on how many people are on those websites, do what you said, and identify as trans?

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,199

@previous (Adam Jensen)
I could try and find out. Do you have any statistics on how many trannies have had brain scans or have stopped their hormones because it makes their erections wilt?

Adam Jensen replied with this 10 years ago, 54 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,200

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Please do!

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 2 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,201

@641,182 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Kook has studied this personally, you know. She has been to many fetish websites and extremeist Tumblrs. Just like a real sociologist would. Thanks.

@641,191 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I think he wants something a bit better than your anecdotes. You know, like statistics or research.

Anonymous I replied with this 10 years ago, 3 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,202

@641,176 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
> what could those two ineffectual creeps do that a woman with similarly ill intentions couldn't?

Physically restrain you.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 10 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,203

@641,124 (C)
It isn't normal, but we're all supposed to pretend like it is.

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 40 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,205

@641,201 (H)
But we trust anecdotes when people with dicks say that they feel like women.

kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 10 years ago, 42 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,207

@641,202 (I)
Accepting biological limitations is sexist and transphobic!

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,209

@641,205 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Transsexualism is a real, medically proven condition. There are people who really have it.

You seem to prefer to focus on "fake" transsexuals, not really minding how this is at the expense of real ones, the ones that need society's help and understanding rather than more mistrust and marginalisation.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 50 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,210

@previous (H)
There are many more fakes than real trannies and we take them on their word.

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 19 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,211

@641,205 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> statistics on how many trannies have had brain scans or have stopped their hormones because it makes their erections wilt?

Correct me if I am in error. I thought Men who want to play as women do not want erections at all anymore. I thought most wanted the whole package to just go away.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,212

@previous (C)
Not the ones with fetishes. Most of them stop their hormones or never use them because they love using their dicks. Go to literally any site for trannies and hang out for a day.

(Edited 32 seconds later.)

WSD !m2cp3rR5zw replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,214

@641,177 (L)
Are you afraid of eunuchs?

Anonymous C replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,216

@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
Walter you're the acknowledged MC expert on chicks with dicks. So what happens if they cannot get a hard on?

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 45 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,217

@641,210 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
That is a very significant claim, and I'm not sure you understand that. You cannot assert that just from researching internet websites, that would require a large-scale scientific study to test.

What would you do with totally legitimate transsexuals, anyway? Should they just be ignored and marginalised because there might be fakers?

Anonymous L replied with this 10 years ago, 1 second later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,218

Mental health problems, mixed with a particular kink or fetish, make men want to pretend to be ladies. Sometimes they pretend to be little girls. This is not acceptable behavior to the wider community and laws protecting the majority, their values, and their way of life are common in all countries.

Fraud and lying and deceit are still frowned upon. We have laws to stop people misrepresenting themselves to others, regardless of their feelings and sexual urges. When you wear a skirt it doesn't affect me and that's fine, but when you wear a skirt to gain access to where it is not granted, it is not allowed. No one gives a fuck about how you feel about it either.

The images that are shown in the toilet debate, should be of this wee little schoolgirl harmlessly spending time in the toilets with her peers, the other 6 year old little girls.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,219

@641,217 (H)
They should be treated like any other male, because they are no different.

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,220

@641,218 (L)
Another tranny who loves using his dick

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,223

@641,183 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
do you even know any trans people
i know a lot and none of them fit this description
my friend's fucking taking birth control cause she hasn't got an estrogen script yet
another friend was getting a breast reduction, asked to get them lopped off entirely but was told that's a gender thing and she'd have to go to a psych etc etc
it's not that easy yo

@641,192 (C)
look any intense modification "isn't practical" for existing buildings. most of the city i live in isn't wheelchair accessible at all and yet somehow they've managed to renovate the bathrooms.

@641,202 (I)
most women could restrain me

@641,210 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
citation please

@641,219 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
jfc

(Edited 51 seconds later.)

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,224

@641,219 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
You know that's not true. You know there is extensive evidence that their brains are different. They're not the same as other men.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,225

@641,223 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Yes I do, and they all have a lot of mental problems

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,226

@641,224 (H)
They have recently done that brains don't have sex differences. Not only that but trans women are generally not medicated which means that they share the same hormone profile as other males and they are not socialized/raised as women either. They even commit the same types of crimes as cis males.

kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 10 years ago, 54 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,227

@641,224 (H)
In your opinion, in what ways do transwomen differ from other males?

kook !!mCVqftDha quadruple-posted this 10 years ago, 33 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,228

@641,216 (C)
He wouldn't know, because he prefers trans women who can get erections.

Anonymous L replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,229

What is it that actually makes someone a tranny? Does the removal of the penis legally change your gender? Because those trannys can just use their correct bathrooms, when they have the surgery.

What happens when a tranny isn't wearing a wig and a skirt, and tries to use the womens bathroom? That's just a dude being a weirdo and they get arrested for that sort of misconduct.

What happens if, for example, MAtt Miller puts on a skirt and spends his days in the girls toilets giggling and sniffing their poots? That's totally cool, because the man is obviously wearing a skirt and in the correct toilet.

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 49 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,230

@641,226 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> They have recently done that brains don't have sex differences.
Ha! Shit, I know what this is. You're talking about that article linked on here a while back, aren't you? I knew from your reply that you misread that, because that article actually said that they found evidence suggesting that gender is on a spectrum rather than being two hard categories. So transsexuals would be people whose place on the gender spectrum conflicted with their sex. Ergo, it supported the existence of transsexuals.

Now you'll probably reply with something like "no it didn't say that", so link it. Because one study did not overturn years of evidence showing that these people have different brains, as much as you wish it had.

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,231

@641,225 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
yeah usually depression and anxiety
which are hugely common anyway and makes sense given the angst of dysphoria and all associated stuff

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 31 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,232

@641,227 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
My opinion is the same as the scientific community's, which you like to ignore or think has suddenly changed.

Just be honest, you don't give a shit about real transsexuals and are more concerned about flushing out supposed fakes.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,233

@641,230 (H)
If gender is a spectrum than gender dysphoria shouldn't even exist. No one is hardwire to wear skirts and high heels.

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 38 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,234

@641,232 (H)
No I want you to say what you personally feel like the differences are.

kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,235

@641,231 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
And schizophrenia, manic depression, paraphelias, autism and drug and alcohol abuse. Trans woman don't even commit the same crimes as cis women

Anonymous L replied with this 10 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,237

Anon H is such a faggot, it can only be Killer Lettuce hiding anonymously from kook so she will talk with him

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 42 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,238

@641,234 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
It isn't a matter of personal opinion! It's been tested in labs, by scientists that have done more research than looking at Tumblr and porn.

You're an idiot, kook. You spew out a load of stupid anecdotes and generalisations you've gotten from browsing fetish sites, and then you flat-out deny scientific evidence because you can scarcely admit that transsexuals even exist or deserve any kind of understanding.

I can at least be glad that there aren't too many people like you out there, and that society is gradually becoming more accomodating to these people. Goodness knows they need it.

@641,233 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
They're hardwired to want to be the opposite sex, and they'll try to get closer to that in a lot of ways. Crossdressing is one of them, and I don't see why you're so offended by it.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,240

@previous (H)
I'm asking about your personal opinion. A different question, tell me some of the differences between men and women.

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 10 years ago, 17 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,241

@641,237 (L)
Probably

Anonymous H replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,243

@641,240 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
One of them is brain structure, that organ that controls behaviour and the very thing that sets transsexuals apart from their own sex.

If you want to go into full denial mode, then there's no point in talking to you any further. As I said, I'm just glad that society at large isn't adopting your mindset on this.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,246

@previous (H)
Okay honey. Enjoy your fetish

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 10 years ago, 23 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,255

@641,235 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
dude youère just inventing reasons to hate a group of people

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 10 years ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,258

@previous (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
I don't hate them, I just don't believe them.

Anonymous L replied with this 10 years ago, 13 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #641,261

No one is hating on them. But they must conform to societies standards, just like everyone else.

The next thing trannys will want is to be able to walk around naked and erect, only wearing high heels, makeup, and a wig. There will of course, be a vocal minority who support these brave marginalized individuals and demand greater rights on their behalf. These people are the same ones demanding toilet rights. These poor fetishists must be protected from the evil bigots and the fight for social justice will continue.

Anon H will be pleased, because he saw a study about tranny brain waves, and they shit just like a normal person does.
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