Topic: Trump in a Freudian social analysis
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E started this discussion 10 years ago #48,647
What does the rise of trump mean if a amateur Freudian analyzed the situation? I don't know but I will pretend to know anyway, bitch.
The most noteworthy thing about trump is that some of his supporters don't support anything he says. I believe many felt it to be extreme to deny immigration based on faith, yet didn't care when trump came up with such a policy that does just that. Even with constant criticism in the media, trump does good.
It's thus my opinion that trump is the symbolic fight against what freud called the super ego. In a democracy you will find different groups fighting for their cause, causes that are not only political but also psychological. According to freud there are three "drives" that rule us in various balance:
1) the id. The id is only concerned with primary desires.
2) the ego. The ego is a drive within us that makes the id (and the super ego) be more realistic in their interaction with the world. The id might want sex right now but the ego knows it's better to convince the girls first.
3) the super ego. The super ego is a internalized authority figure. The ego might know that it's best to have consensual sex but the super ego might shame you into getting married first.
So the id is like a baby that wants everything right now.
The ego is a pragmatic wingman trying to help the id
And the super ego is the asshole that says it's not right to be out this late and drinking.
Sometimes one of those drivers get way to strong. When trump hates on political correctness, he hating on the super ego.
The most noteworthy thing about trump is that some of his supporters don't support anything he says. I believe many felt it to be extreme to deny immigration based on faith, yet didn't care when trump came up with such a policy that does just that. Even with constant criticism in the media, trump does good.
It's thus my opinion that trump is the symbolic fight against what freud called the super ego. In a democracy you will find different groups fighting for their cause, causes that are not only political but also psychological. According to freud there are three "drives" that rule us in various balance:
1) the id. The id is only concerned with primary desires.
2) the ego. The ego is a drive within us that makes the id (and the super ego) be more realistic in their interaction with the world. The id might want sex right now but the ego knows it's better to convince the girls first.
3) the super ego. The super ego is a internalized authority figure. The ego might know that it's best to have consensual sex but the super ego might shame you into getting married first.
So the id is like a baby that wants everything right now.
The ego is a pragmatic wingman trying to help the id
And the super ego is the asshole that says it's not right to be out this late and drinking.
Sometimes one of those drivers get way to strong. When trump hates on political correctness, he hating on the super ego.
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #634,766
There's nothing superegotistical about political correctness. My reading of neo-conservative Jewish psychiatrists in my time has told me as much.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,768
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 34 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,769
@634,766 (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
PC is always about making the world better except nothing you ever do is enough. It's also very authoritarian, always demanding a "social awakening" that everyone must be a part of.
PC in the form we know it today, is the very manifestation of the super ego.
PC is always about making the world better except nothing you ever do is enough. It's also very authoritarian, always demanding a "social awakening" that everyone must be a part of.
PC in the form we know it today, is the very manifestation of the super ego.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 10 years ago, 58 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,770
Hahaha uoy madman icelamd guy!
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 37 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,771
@634,769 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
PC only purports to be, but is entirely otherwise an externalized social virtues signalling apparatus, that doesn't bode and could never with the superego's requirement for internalization of the real thing.
There's nothing about PC that's a manifestation of anything and everything about it that's contrived imposition in its entirety.
PC only purports to be, but is entirely otherwise an externalized social virtues signalling apparatus, that doesn't bode and could never with the superego's requirement for internalization of the real thing.
There's nothing about PC that's a manifestation of anything and everything about it that's contrived imposition in its entirety.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 16 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,772
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 23 seconds later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,773
@634,770 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
He's not the only Freudian here. I support his (Denmark guy's, as founded on Freud's principles) framework but find his conclusion misguided.
He's not the only Freudian here. I support his (Denmark guy's, as founded on Freud's principles) framework but find his conclusion misguided.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,779
@previous (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
> He's not the only Freudian here. I support his (Denmark guy's, as founded on Freud's principles) framework but find his conclusion misguided.
I love you.autphag! I think.you could assimilat3 with minichsn culture
> He's not the only Freudian here. I support his (Denmark guy's, as founded on Freud's principles) framework but find his conclusion misguided.
I love you.autphag! I think.you could assimilat3 with minichsn culture
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 55 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,781
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Minichan doesn't have a culture. I'm re-establishing one from the ground up, as I had Tinychan during its brief 2013 renaissance.
One giveth, thus one taketh away; Tinychan, it's worth bearing in mind, died with my fall from presence there.
Minichan doesn't have a culture. I'm re-establishing one from the ground up, as I had Tinychan during its brief 2013 renaissance.
One giveth, thus one taketh away; Tinychan, it's worth bearing in mind, died with my fall from presence there.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,782
@previous (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
You arr a tight vharwcter imo
I think, with the right skills, you coulf be a minichsn asset
WIth tjr mead, j have become a higher consciousbess. I msu ecen understand you
You arr a tight vharwcter imo
I think, with the right skills, you coulf be a minichsn asset
WIth tjr mead, j have become a higher consciousbess. I msu ecen understand you
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,783
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I'll wait for you to go back on your word in the morning when hungover, Killer. Don't worry.
I'll wait for you to go back on your word in the morning when hungover, Killer. Don't worry.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,784
@previous (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
> I'll wait for you to go back on your word in the morning when hungover, Killer. Don't worry.
I do not get hungovet often, lad
Speak as a human.
> I'll wait for you to go back on your word in the morning when hungover, Killer. Don't worry.
I do not get hungovet often, lad
Speak as a human.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 7 seconds later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,785
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,787
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,788
@634,784 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
> lad
And you've made perfect the justification for me to disengage. Cheers!
@634,785 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
What elaboration do you require? It's clear that I have addressed the greatest weakness in your conception of the third Freudian motive-force.
> lad
And you've made perfect the justification for me to disengage. Cheers!
@634,785 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
What elaboration do you require? It's clear that I have addressed the greatest weakness in your conception of the third Freudian motive-force.
(Edited 22 seconds later.)
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 54 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,789
@634,787 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
It's my opinion you are right now completely controlled by id. Which is good once in a while, nice work.
It's my opinion you are right now completely controlled by id. Which is good once in a while, nice work.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) double-posted this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,790
@634,788 (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
Well the elaborated message i need is the one that I will understand. You frequently use English words i have never ever encountered before... So what i mean is speak simpler
Well the elaborated message i need is the one that I will understand. You frequently use English words i have never ever encountered before... So what i mean is speak simpler
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 16 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,791
@634,788 (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
Hsha you madman!
Autphag, manga
@634,789 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Freudianism is discrefited. Goodbye
Hsha you madman!
Autphag, manga
@634,789 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Freudianism is discrefited. Goodbye
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 3 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,792
@634,789 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Actually that's the fairest assessment I've seen made on Killer Lettuce's behaviour ever.
Except you underestimate the frequency and extent with which he does it; usually all of his liberal vacuosity is motivated by a desire to see everything he wants to be seen regarded as 'fair' in the world, in the most autistic application of a pseudo-moral, wrongly-internalized set of systematic quasi-values.
It's perhaps why the feminists bothered expanding special education to encompass the masculinity-pathologied autist to begin with. To place spackers like him in its confines.
Actually that's the fairest assessment I've seen made on Killer Lettuce's behaviour ever.
Except you underestimate the frequency and extent with which he does it; usually all of his liberal vacuosity is motivated by a desire to see everything he wants to be seen regarded as 'fair' in the world, in the most autistic application of a pseudo-moral, wrongly-internalized set of systematic quasi-values.
It's perhaps why the feminists bothered expanding special education to encompass the masculinity-pathologied autist to begin with. To place spackers like him in its confines.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 35 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,793
@previous (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
> Actually that's the fairest assessment I've seen made on Killer Lettuce's behaviour ever.
>
> Except you underestimate the frequency and extent with which he does it; usually all of his liberal vacuosity is motivated by a desire to see everything he wants to be seen regarded as 'fair' in the world, in the most autistic application of a pseudo-moral, wrongly-internalized set of systematic quasi-values.
>
> It's perhaps why the feminists bothered expanding special education to encompass the masculinity-pathologied autist to begin with. To place spackers like him in its confines.
Ah but the frewuekcyvof yhr ornstholshicsl honk. Inellectualidm!
> Actually that's the fairest assessment I've seen made on Killer Lettuce's behaviour ever.
>
> Except you underestimate the frequency and extent with which he does it; usually all of his liberal vacuosity is motivated by a desire to see everything he wants to be seen regarded as 'fair' in the world, in the most autistic application of a pseudo-moral, wrongly-internalized set of systematic quasi-values.
>
> It's perhaps why the feminists bothered expanding special education to encompass the masculinity-pathologied autist to begin with. To place spackers like him in its confines.
Ah but the frewuekcyvof yhr ornstholshicsl honk. Inellectualidm!
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 2 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,794
@634,790 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I don't tell this to people often because in the case of native English speakers they're usually willfully ignorant retards who know fully well they've encountered the individual words I've used before, but lack the general intelligence to contextualize them.
You, on the other hand, seem like a fairly clever guy. Just use Google to get definitions.
I don't tell this to people often because in the case of native English speakers they're usually willfully ignorant retards who know fully well they've encountered the individual words I've used before, but lack the general intelligence to contextualize them.
You, on the other hand, seem like a fairly clever guy. Just use Google to get definitions.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 10 years ago, 4 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,795
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 10 years ago, 7 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,800
@634,794 (Sophie !MLHqI35Srs)
Well based on Google it's still hard to fully understand.
PC isn't the super ego because it's only a expression of values?
Well based on Google it's still hard to fully understand.
PC isn't the super ego because it's only a expression of values?
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs replied with this 10 years ago, 1 minute later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #634,804
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
In so many words, and the superego as you've defined needs pre-existing internalizing of those values.
This is incompatable with PC's artificiality.
In so many words, and the superego as you've defined needs pre-existing internalizing of those values.
This is incompatable with PC's artificiality.