Topic: Why do USAmericans drop the "h" in "herb"?
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #48,055
It is incorrect and unnecessary, and, unless you were born in France, or certain underdeveloped areas of England, and still possess the native accent of that region, you should stop doing it immediately. Thanks.
Remember: It's "A Herb", not "An 'erb". Once again, Thanks.
Remember: It's "A Herb", not "An 'erb". Once again, Thanks.
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
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| Sure. | 2 | 50% | |
| Not sure. | 2 | 50% |
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #628,563
British po-po are said to do this too.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #628,568
@previous (B)
Indeed, but it seems that this habit has permeated the entire USAmerican class structure and all ethnic groups. Have you noticed that they even type it as "an herb"?
Indeed, but it seems that this habit has permeated the entire USAmerican class structure and all ethnic groups. Have you noticed that they even type it as "an herb"?
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 18 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #628,569
Matt schtick. Thanks.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #628,570
Metæ? joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #628,571
It's closer to the original French pronunciation. What gets me though is with "croissant" it's reversed: the Americans pronounce it as if it were an English word, almost like "crescent", but the Brits get all fancy and say "kwa-son" like the French.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #628,574
@previous (Metæ?)
Do they really? As a brit, I hate asking for a kwasson because it makes me feel silly and pretentious. And are we meant to speak French when asking for a pan o' choco-la?
Do they really? As a brit, I hate asking for a kwasson because it makes me feel silly and pretentious. And are we meant to speak French when asking for a pan o' choco-la?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 45 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #628,578
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 50 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,587
So much of English isn't pronounced as it is spelled, and you're worried about this?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,590
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,591
OPBoth Shakespeare and Mark Twain disagree with you.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,593
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Metæ? replied with this 11 years ago, 43 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,596
@628,574 (E)
> As a brit, I hate asking for a kwasson because it makes me feel silly and pretentious.
The first time I heard it watching British TV I actually laughed because it sounds so fucking silly. Kwasson
> And are we meant to speak French when asking for a pan o' choco-la?
We don't eat chocolate pans here so I couldn't tell you :/
> As a brit, I hate asking for a kwasson because it makes me feel silly and pretentious.
The first time I heard it watching British TV I actually laughed because it sounds so fucking silly. Kwasson
> And are we meant to speak French when asking for a pan o' choco-la?
We don't eat chocolate pans here so I couldn't tell you :/
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,598
@628,587 (G)
We should sort out the smaller details first before we look at the more challenging issues.
We should sort out the smaller details first before we look at the more challenging issues.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,608
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
cough
dough
through
bough
We're like the troll of the language world.
cough
dough
through
bough
We're like the troll of the language world.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,630
@previous (G)
I'm not disputing that English had a lot of eccentricities to it, but...
I see this claim a fairly often when language comes up, that English is particularly hard to understand amongst languages. And it makes me think, surely the writer would need a pretty extensive understanding of lots of other languages to properly make that assertion? For all I know, other languages could have their massive hang-ups too.
Heck, just from trying to learn Japanese, I've found that I need to memorise a little over 2000 symbols in order to have an adult reading comprehension. French and Spanish have this whole layer of things being masculine or feminine.
I dunno, maybe I'm just coming at this as a native English speaker and can't see how muddled the English is, but I'm just unsure that this popular claim is being made with the requisite experience.
I'm not disputing that English had a lot of eccentricities to it, but...
I see this claim a fairly often when language comes up, that English is particularly hard to understand amongst languages. And it makes me think, surely the writer would need a pretty extensive understanding of lots of other languages to properly make that assertion? For all I know, other languages could have their massive hang-ups too.
Heck, just from trying to learn Japanese, I've found that I need to memorise a little over 2000 symbols in order to have an adult reading comprehension. French and Spanish have this whole layer of things being masculine or feminine.
I dunno, maybe I'm just coming at this as a native English speaker and can't see how muddled the English is, but I'm just unsure that this popular claim is being made with the requisite experience.
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,634
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,639
@OP whom are you thanking?
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 44 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,640
@628,608 (G)
Just pronounce them the same, so it's "cow", "dow", "throw" and "bow". That's what I do.
@previous (K)
Cram it, faggot. Thanks.
Just pronounce them the same, so it's "cow", "dow", "throw" and "bow". That's what I do.
@previous (K)
Cram it, faggot. Thanks.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 26 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,641
@628,630 (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yeah, I don't know either. You are correct that one would have to have extensive knowledge of all world languages to make any kind of solid claim. I certainly do not claim to have a grasp of all world languages. I can only say, as a fluent English speaker, that English is pretty fucking weird. I can say though, that the Latin languages to which I have been exposed, like French or Spanish, seem a lot easier in regards to pronunciation and regularity.
Yeah, I don't know either. You are correct that one would have to have extensive knowledge of all world languages to make any kind of solid claim. I certainly do not claim to have a grasp of all world languages. I can only say, as a fluent English speaker, that English is pretty fucking weird. I can say though, that the Latin languages to which I have been exposed, like French or Spanish, seem a lot easier in regards to pronunciation and regularity.
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,643
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 24 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,650
@628,574 (E)
Yes you are
It's a French word
You sound like a caveman when you ask for a "croysent" or a "pan o chocolate or whatever it is" and it is really unimpressive
Yes you are
It's a French word
You sound like a caveman when you ask for a "croysent" or a "pan o chocolate or whatever it is" and it is really unimpressive
Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,652
I need to point out a fact that is usually ignored re pronunciation.
For us USA Americans Brits accent is unique and often seems even stuffy or as if they had stick up ass.
However when they make music aka Beatles or Adel they drop all the differences and sound just like any other USA American.
So I think all that accent stuff is just put on phony baloney.
For us USA Americans Brits accent is unique and often seems even stuffy or as if they had stick up ass.
However when they make music aka Beatles or Adel they drop all the differences and sound just like any other USA American.
So I think all that accent stuff is just put on phony baloney.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,653
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@628,650 (L)
nah, people shouldn't appropriate an accent to use foreign words, it's not your accent to steal. you have no idea what kinds of oppression people with french accents endure and it's insulting to just steal their accent because you want to be all hipster when ordering a breakfast sandwich from McFastfood chains. it's pronounced cres-ont in american you culturally appropriating white devil.
nah, people shouldn't appropriate an accent to use foreign words, it's not your accent to steal. you have no idea what kinds of oppression people with french accents endure and it's insulting to just steal their accent because you want to be all hipster when ordering a breakfast sandwich from McFastfood chains. it's pronounced cres-ont in american you culturally appropriating white devil.
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@628,659 (gruppi)
On the British TV show called Peep Show when they say croissant,it definitely sounds like kwassant.
On the British TV show called Peep Show when they say croissant,it definitely sounds like kwassant.
Metæ? replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,674
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@628,659 (gruppi)
But it isn't a normal R. It is a 'W' with an accompanying throat clear if I am not mistaken. The sort of sound you make when you are ill. Try this:
*cough* *cough* *kwasson*
At least that's how I ask in the bakery. Or 'boulangerie' I should say.
But it isn't a normal R. It is a 'W' with an accompanying throat clear if I am not mistaken. The sort of sound you make when you are ill. Try this:
*cough* *cough* *kwasson*
At least that's how I ask in the bakery. Or 'boulangerie' I should say.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 21 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #628,703
Metæ? replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #628,715
@628,702 (S)
> boulangerie
Goddamnit Frenchy SPEAK AMERICAN! I want a goddamn cress-sont and one o' them bread things stuffed with chocolate.
> boulangerie
Goddamnit Frenchy SPEAK AMERICAN! I want a goddamn cress-sont and one o' them bread things stuffed with chocolate.
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 days later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #629,742
@OP
Hkill hyourself, hfaggot.
Hkill hyourself, hfaggot.