Topic: Would it be sexism if i intentionally only helped male victims of abuse?

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E started this discussion 11 years ago #47,888

Well would it!?

gruppi joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 22 seconds later[^] [v] #626,828

Yes

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #626,829

@previous (gruppi)

What if i only helped women?

gruppi replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #626,830

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Why would it be different ❔❓

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #626,831

@previous (gruppi)

Cause feminists seem to think so.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,864

@626,830 (gruppi)
Just thinking out loud. Helping a female with warm male compassion can lead to...fill in the blanks.
That makes it different.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,880

no but this is a misogynistic topic

fucking mra babies

Green joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,881

@previous (D)
Lol what?

kook !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 55 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,892

@previous (Green)
Evidently only mra's care about men

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,894

@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
no but only mras will frame a question as if there is there is no contextual difference when discussing women's vs men's issues
mras only care about 'male abuse' when they are trying to put down women/feminism

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,897

@previous (G)

What on earth do you mean?

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,898

@626,880 (D)
you sir, are mentally a nigger

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,926

@626,894 (G)

> no but only mras will frame a question as if there is there is no contextual difference when discussing women's vs men's issues
> mras only care about 'male abuse' when they are trying to put down women/feminism

QFT

gruppi replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,927

@626,831 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Source ??

Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,928

@previous (gruppi)
Some bullshit blog without any sources that obsesses over every straw feminist

kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,934

@626,894 (G)
They care about the abuse of men now more than ever, because its currently popular to shit all over "cis" males.

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #626,940

@626,928 (I)

No it wasn't a blog, but it was a real experience.

There was a article from "UN Women" that encouraged increased awareness and discussion about violence against women and girls in order to end it.

This was good and so on, but my heart still worries about the male victims.

So I asked why it all exclude male victims of violence. Ironically I was told to shut up about male victims in a conversation about increasing discussion and awareness of the issue.

Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 15 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #627,093

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Cool anecdote, bro.

op of topic joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,197

@626,934 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
nobody shits on cis males in a real harmful way so what's the problem
is there some kind of systemic disadvantage that is keeping cis males from like getting jobs that trans men or women get? Are cis males routinely subject to like random attacks on the street for being cis? men? or do u mean like. a cis man's sensitive ego gets hurt by a queer woman online saying 'die cis scum' and that's the male abuse that you're combatting by regurgitating liberal thought patterns through your dark dark mirror it doesn't even work. u just end up sounding like a reactionary bigot

@626,940 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
try to make it easy for u
would u go to a spider convention and try to say 'why aren't we talking about crabs here?'

op of topic double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,200

@626,934 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
they don't tho. they exist to put down women.

kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,207

@627,197 (op of topic)
More cis men are murdered than anyone else! More cis men commit suicide! When you have sjw's who constantly say "Kill all men" to try and raise up trans, cis, otherkin, etc women then its a problem. You dont have to hate one group to love another

(Edited 4 minutes later.)

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,209

@627,197 (op of topic)
You are blaming men for societies problems, when men are only half of the problem because they are only half of society.

Trannys only have themselves to blame.

kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,211

@previous (K)
No I'm a reactionary bigot for not drinking white, male tears

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,212

@627,207 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I don't hear anybody saying that stuff in real life. Even in queer majority places. I barely even see it online anymore.
also, more cis men do anything in everything so those statistics literally mean nothing
I don't hate cis men
Nobody hates cis men in a real way that would make Mra a legitimate movement
I see far, far more hate of lgbtq and women than I do of cis men. I only ever see them get derided like 'haha they don't understand us' and they get so bent out of shape over not being included in something that they hate anyway?
Idk
U are just repeating lame false narratives and phony statistics now so I'm outty
Also I'm a male who has been in an abusive relationship and this bullshit is not even close to touching base on the real issue of any kind of abuse. u are all butts

kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,213

@previous (Kinf of text voices)
I do hear that in real life, you know nothing, and your abuse doesnt validate your arguments.

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 13 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,214

@627,209 (K)
Lol 'men are half the global population' so it follows that they created exactly half of the problems? What!!???? Hahahaha

Kinf of text voices double-posted this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,216

@627,213 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
you are bad at this

kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,218

@627,214 (Kinf of text voices)
show me proof that trans women commit less crime than other bio males.

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,219

@627,216 (Kinf of text voices)
Bad at what? "Oh I'm abused and I'm a male, so I know that cis men are evil!" fuck off

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,224

@627,218 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Lol what?? you're asking for proof of something that I'm not an expert on, that isn't relevant to this discussion, that isn't even an accurately quantifiable statistic? so that when I can't answer your flawed question you can say 'you can't even answer my question'
More lol

Kinf of text voices double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,225

@627,219 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I said that because I don't think OP is genuinely interested in helping abuse males or even discussing abuse in a real way

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,226

@627,211 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Yes, kook. Everybody on the other side is a cartoonish SJW.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,228

@627,224 (Kinf of text voices)
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
People shit on cis men constantly. Just because you pretend not to see it means nothing. I see the evil things that women do. No gender/sex is innocent

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 24 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,230

@627,225 (Kinf of text voices)
You have no way of knowing that

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,231

@627,219 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Plus I haven't said a single bad thing about cis men
Just internet freaks who think that they are victims of a changing status quo 'white genocide' 'male abuse' blah blah blah lions tigers bare

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,232

@627,226 (L)
reactionary! Bigot! Equality!

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,233

@627,228 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
so now it's a men vs women pissing contest? Why

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 51 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,235

@627,231 (Kinf of text voices)
yes you havent in this topic said anything bad about males. that isnt the point

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 4 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,236

@627,230 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I said I don't think he is
Nobody has any way of knowing anything for certain on this anonymous forum I could be posting all lies
I might not even believe the shit I'm arguing right now u don't know

Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,238

@627,214 (Kinf of text voices)
Work on your reading comprehension. I said its a society problem, and men are half of society.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,239

@627,233 (Kinf of text voices)
there is no contest. Everyone has troubles. that it. No one is beter or worse.

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,240

@627,233 (Kinf of text voices)
She has as much of a stick up her butt about gender as the SJWs do

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,241

@627,238 (K)
... That still doesn't make any sense

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,242

@627,240 (L)
How so? I dont believe that any sex or gender is a victim

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,243

@627,239 (kook !!mCVqftDha)

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,244

@627,239 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
then why are you arguing with me? Is that your way of conceding

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,245

@627,243 (L)
If black people are on fire then its by self immolation

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,247

@627,244 (Kinf of text voices)
I concede that you're a reactionary bigot. Thanks

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,249

@627,242 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
victimhood is real
Sometimes

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,250

@627,245 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
lol okay

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,251

@627,249 (Kinf of text voices)
Why is it okay to care more about the health and safety of one sex than another?

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,254

@627,250 (L)
oh I forgot, all black people people are victims so they have no responsibility for their actions

Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,255

@627,241 (Kinf of text voices)
Women are not blameless innocents in domestic violence, men are not solely to blame. Men are stronger physically, so they can cause more damage, and it will seem like they are the aggressor because they were unharmed. But it is men and women who are involved.

Women can and do provoke attacks for their gain.

This is a common and well known tactic in sports for example, provoking and frustrating your opponent into lashing out at you, to gain a penalty. Exactly the same applies, and not every case is so clear cut as SJWs claim it to be.

A bruise on her face, and she can gain control of his children. Marks on her wrist, and she can claim sexual battery. These are tactics, and a small amount of pain is worth the victim status when claiming moral high ground

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,256

@627,251 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Oh my god you are so dense
It's not about one or the other or more or less. There is a time and place for every one thing. If you want to talk about men's health, go ahead, but don't do it over people who are talking about something else. Pls don't assert that men don't get help, that women are taking help from men, or that women are prioritized in our society over men, because that's just absurd.
And If you are talking about an individual, that's fine, people can care about things in whatever order they want I don't care! But if they care more about men then I know they are bIg babies because I live here in the real world and not cooped up on the Internet or stuck in a building with dying old people or stuck in that god awful swamp you call a state

Kinf of text voices double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,257

@627,255 (K)
dude nobody was even talking about that

Kinf of text voices triple-posted this 11 years ago, 33 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,258

@627,255 (K)
And that sounds like a self control problem
Lol 'she made me hit her'

Kinf of text voices quadruple-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,259

@627,245 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
victim blaming bootstrapping dumb butt
You just have evil in your heart and like to be on the winning side

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,262

@627,254 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Bad black people exist, but things could definitely be made better for blacks as a whole.

I'm eager to see your response to this one.

Kinf of text voices replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,264

@previous (L)
Why? 'they can make themselves better hurrdurr the breakdown of black family no dad racial slur' that's all it'll be

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,267

@previous (Kinf of text voices)
I think she's probably going to try to downplay the racism towards blacks. If so, that just goes to show how skewed her perceptions are.

But maybe she'll surprise me and come out with something cleverer.

op replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,269

@previous (L)
no she's a 'they deserve my hate' type thru and thru

op double-posted this 11 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,270

@627,267 (L)
also 'I'm not racist tho I know black people'

Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,273

kook's obsession with race and gender identity politics is so fucking tiresome

Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,292

@627,257 (Kinf of text voices)

> dude nobody was even talking about that

Male vs female victims of abuse is the topic. How can you ignore domestic violence in that light?

@627,258 (Kinf of text voices)
If that were true then why is provocation such a common tactic? Are you so passive that anyone can say and do anything to you, and your only response is to curl up into a ball and cry until they leave you alone?

Anonymous K double-posted this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,293

@627,273 (I)
Gender identity politics? That's an interesting way to define what is considered a mental health problem.

op replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,307

@627,292 (K)
lol no I don't get provoked into hitting people ever tho

Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #627,369

@previous (op)
Have you ever had a fist fight? You were home schooled weren't you?

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 11 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,468

@previous (K)
not everyone reacts with violence
although i tried to get people to fight me and nobody would because i was too small

anyway
if you allow yourself to be provoked to the point that you respond w violence you have a problem

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,491

@627,262 (L)
Most of their problems are caused by themselves. It's sad but true

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 49 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,492

@627,267 (L)
Post any instance where I have been racist and we will discuss it

kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 11 years ago, 31 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,493

@627,270 (op)
You say that because you don't know black people

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,495

@627,491 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
And there we go. Flat-out denial that bigotry is a real problem.

Well, folks, that says it all. Kinf, you were completely right.

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,499

@previous (L)
You were completely right kinf! Go fuck a black tranny to celebrate!

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 11 years ago, 34 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,516

@627,491 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
hahahahh man there it is

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 58 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,524

@627,499 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
kill yourself

prins de peas joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,555

@627,369 (K)
no I just don't step on people's toes or punch their faces

@627,492 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
this whole tirade is racist

prins de peas double-posted this 11 years ago, 27 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,556

@627,516 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
wink

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,573

@627,555 (prins de peas)

It's racist because it's racist? Having opinions about what is to blame for any problems blacks/whites experience is not racist simply because they are different than your opinions.

Anonymous N replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,576

@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
kill yourself

Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,581

@previous (N)

Go be retarded somewhere else.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,590

@627,524 (N)
Only if you call me by the proper pronouns first

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,591

@627,516 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
Lolololololol

Canadians

kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 11 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,592

@627,555 (prins de peas)
It's racist to treat blacks like they are adults with personal accountability. Got it.

Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,619

@627,576 (N)

> kill yourself

The classic SJW cowardly attack and admission of defeat? Thanks, that'll be all.

kook !hl1uJlCfsM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 40 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,636

All the old folks at the home are black and now I am craving black booty all the time.

Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 11 years ago, 10 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #627,699

@627,591 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
what does Canada have to do with anything

Minichan