Topic: Web design - what languages to learn?
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk started this discussion 15 years ago #4,768
If I wanna get good at web design, are HTML and CSS still the languages to learn, looking forward?
Or are these becoming outdated and replaced by more advanced stuff?
Will learning PHP be an asset too?
Or are these becoming outdated and replaced by more advanced stuff?
Will learning PHP be an asset too?
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #84,448
Just for the design, you'll only need HTML and CSS... maybe some javascript if you'll want some fansy shit...
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,451
Inb4 yet another AT clone.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,452
Client-side: HTML, CSS, and Javascript. Learn all three.Server-side: SQL, PHP, Python, Ruby, JSP, ASP, Perl. Learn SQL plus one other (probably PHP).
None of these are going outdated.
This is web development BTW. Web design and web development are different.
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,454
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Is it really beneficial to know all those server-side languages? Don't most of them provide the same functionality?
Is it really beneficial to know all those server-side languages? Don't most of them provide the same functionality?
simi !!6dAfO2wrS joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,455
Cobol.
r04r joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,456
@84,454 (Homestar !RUNNERV7vk)
Yes, but not unless you're looking do all kinds of different stuff. For you, you want HTML+CSS+JS for client-side, and SQL+PHP for server-side.
Oh, and just stay away from ASP/JSP regardless.
Yes, but not unless you're looking do all kinds of different stuff. For you, you want HTML+CSS+JS for client-side, and SQL+PHP for server-side.
Oh, and just stay away from ASP/JSP regardless.
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vocalon !0oDERPONYY joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,458
The original ASP is not good. ASP.NET is good.
However, for basic stuff like writing an imageboard or textboard, PHP and SQL are the best.
For the more advanced stuff, Perl.
However, for basic stuff like writing an imageboard or textboard, PHP and SQL are the best.
For the more advanced stuff, Perl.
simi !!6dAfO2wrS replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,460
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,461
@84,454 (Homestar !RUNNERV7vk)
No, just learn SQL and one other. PHP is the most popular so go with that.
No, just learn SQL and one other. PHP is the most popular so go with that.
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Anonymous D double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #84,462
Actually, now that I think about it, WebMatrix seems pretty good.
http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/
I had a quick play around with it and was pretty impressed. Might be good for a beginner.
http://www.microsoft.com/web/webmatrix/
I had a quick play around with it and was pretty impressed. Might be good for a beginner.
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r04r replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #84,478
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Not really a good choice for a beginner that wants to make a website and actually put it online somewhere without having to pay for a VPS or find some overpriced host that does windows hosting.
Not really a good choice for a beginner that wants to make a website and actually put it online somewhere without having to pay for a VPS or find some overpriced host that does windows hosting.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 50 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #84,486
Esperanto.
Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #84,488
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #84,490
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> Interlingua is better.
It's not easy to learn for non-Europeans. You will never see Chinese people speaking this. It's just a go-between for European languages.
> Esperanto is ugly and unnatural-looking.
Once you learn it, and start reading and using it, you will see how intuitive and natual feeling it is. Concepts just make sense. Just knowing a small number of root words, prepositions, and the correlatives allows you to read, and understand a lot of the language.
> Interlingua is better.
It's not easy to learn for non-Europeans. You will never see Chinese people speaking this. It's just a go-between for European languages.
> Esperanto is ugly and unnatural-looking.
Once you learn it, and start reading and using it, you will see how intuitive and natual feeling it is. Concepts just make sense. Just knowing a small number of root words, prepositions, and the correlatives allows you to read, and understand a lot of the language.
Anonymous H double-posted this 15 years ago, 45 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #84,519
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Yea, ~400,000 people in China alone speak Esperanto. That is why it is much better suited to be the international language than Interlingua.
Yea, ~400,000 people in China alone speak Esperanto. That is why it is much better suited to be the international language than Interlingua.