Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago#46,463
The tracking info was fucked, but I still wound up getting it today. Haven't yet played any games, but you can also use it to control the mouse in windows which I've played briefly with so far. That works pretty good.
I was a little worried it was broken at first because the mouse control was fucking up, but a second later steam offered to update the controller's firmware which resolved everything. I will post more reviews ITT when I get to playing games.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later[^][v]#612,808
Damn it, not sure if mine came yet.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#612,809
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
You had to pre-order before a specific date to get them early. Your steam purchase history contains info about the controller, and if it doesn't say it has been shipped yet with an estimated shipping date of today you'll get it around nov 10, probably.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#612,810
@previous (A)
When was the date?
I ordered on July 16 this year.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#612,812
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
The date people are speculating is sometime before June 29. Looks like you were too late, sorry :(
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 29 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^][v]#612,821
Rocket League
Just fucked around a bit in this game, and it is excellent! It definitely takes some getting used to the controller, but after about 15 minutes of practice against bots I already feel comfortable going up against other players, and won my first game.
The controller has a trackpad, and a large dpad (not sure if it does anything more than just being a dpad, it looks like it is some kind of clickable trackpad), a stick, the usual abxy buttons, two triggers, two buttons behind the triggers that idk what they're called but 360 controller has those too, and then two special grip buttons on the back. I wasn't sure if the grip buttons on the back would provide much utility, but for rocket league, they most definitely do.
The trackpad is used for controlling the camera, and it is a LOT more precise than the stick the 360 controller had. The stick of this controller is quite precise as well. It is also a bit smaller, which I like. The grip buttons on the back are just mapped to X and Y in my current layout, but since you often want to press both B, A and X at the same time in Rocket League this is quite helpful.
Vibration does not seem to work properly, but the controller does support it and it does vibrate under other circumstances, so maybe this is a bug or I have not yet figured out how to configure that.
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Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^][v]#612,822
General Info
The steam controller requires two AA batteries to run, and comes with its own wireless dongle. It can also be connected using a micro-usb cable, however. I assume that you do not need batteries if you do this. The controller is a little bit heavier than my wired xbox 360 controller, but not noticeably so.
You do need steam on your computer to make full use of it, and I'm not yet sure how this works with non-steam games. It does however let you control the mouse in windows which also works very nicely. Not sure what other general info to provide, but happy to answer questions.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 37 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#612,824
@612,821 (A)
I don't suppose you'll be playtesting it with any RTS games? It'd be cool if it worked with those.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#612,825
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I could. Any requests?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,836
@previous (A)
Whatever you have, I suppose. A Europa Universalis game would be cool, if you have one.
I was just wondering if the controller could handle anything from, say, an action game to an RTS.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,841
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I only own Civ V, but can pirate whatever. Been a while since I played Civ V, but I'll have steam install it and give it a go later.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,842
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 46 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,847
awesome! mine is coming today as well. sounds like you like it OP
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,848
@previous (squeegee)
Will it work with Star Citizen???
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,849
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
maybe, but controllers suck in star citizen. can't wait for fallout 4 now though
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 49 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,855
@612,842 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I just tried Civ V for like 5-10 minutes, not really in the mood for Civ to keep playing with it, but it seems to work fairly well. Attached to this post is the default controller configuration for the game.
You can see that the right touchpad is used for the mouse, which works well. You can left click with the right trigger, and right click with the left. Sounds a bit weird, but is pretty intuitive. All actions seem accessible, the only "problem" is that moving the mouse around is a bit slower than with a normal, well, mouse. It's akin to a laptop trackpad, but a very good one at that.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,858
@previous (A)
Oh, sweet. So it seems like a good all-rounder? That's good to know. I was worried it might struggle with that sort of genre.
@612,849 (squeegee)
Same, m8. It should work nicely with your shiny new controller.
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squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,861
@612,855 (A)
nice, i was wondering how well it does at mouse control. i wonder if i'll be able to use it for Star Craft 2.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 47 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,875
Is the right trackpad configurable so that it can be used as a second analog stick?
I get the feeling I cannot play WWE 2K15 with this controller because you need a second stick for the chain wrestling mini-game.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,929
The witcher 3 works pretty well too. Granted, that game has regular controller support so of course it should work.
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Everything is configurable. I haven't played with all the settings yet, but I don't see why that wouldn't work.
Another nice feature is that you can share your steam controller configuration for a game with other players, and steam will automatically use the most popular configuration. You can browse them all though. Also, game devs can provide an official configuration, and if they do that is used by default.
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RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,937
@previous (A)
Very innovative. I like the community aspect to it.
I wonder of this'll take off? It seems like it should.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,939
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I bet it will. So far I am very positive. I just spent the evening on the couch playing rocket league and the witcher 3. I used steam in home streaming for the witcher 3 which was also superb. Looking forward to receiving my steam link so I don't have to lug around my laptop anymore as a receiver for the streaming.
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Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,942
@previous (A)
Is the Steam Link worth getting?
I wish I had my own PC instead of relying on my brother's.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,943
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Dunno, obviously haven't gotten the chance to try it yet. You also still need a beefy computer, with wired interet, running the games. It just streams them to a TV from there. And the computer cannot be used during.
I wouldn't preorder it at this time because there is apparently no early release for those.
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Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,947
@previous (A)
What is your personal opinion on "Steam Machines"?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,948
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
They're just pre-built gaming computers with Linux. Build your own computer and put windows on it and you will probably be happier.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,949
@612,947 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM) @previous (A)
Of course you can also put SteamOS on your own machine, but it's just linux that boots into steam's big picture mode. Windows seems like a better choice because it runs way more games. If you want to see what SteamOS is like just click on the controller icon next to the minimize one in steam.
The reason the Steam Machines exist is because valve is trying to secure a market of their own in case windows locks shits down so much in the future that you can't use "third party app stores", which is basically what steam is. I don't think it's really working, because most games are still windows-only. But who knows what'll have happened in a year or two, things are slowly getting better.
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gruppi joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,950
have you played a fast fps with his t yet? Tribes??
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,954
@612,949 (A)
But why would Microsoft decide to lock things down that much though?
Not even Apple does that.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,957
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Increased revenue by vendor lock-in under the guise of security has been creeping up for ages. Look at android, you have to jump through hoops to install apps without using the play store. I think it's even worse with iOS but not sure, never owned one myself. Windows 8 and 10 started including an app store of their own, so it's not too far fetched to imagine it'll head that way too.
@612,950 (gruppi)
No, I can't imagine playing that with any kind of controller. I've never been a fan of using controllers for FPSes to begin with, I quite disliked having to use the 360 controller for halo for example. I'll give it a go, but I imagine it'll be utter shit.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#612,965
@612,950 (gruppi)
Okay so it works, but aiming is shit. Tribes has no support for controllers so I had to set it to emulate a mouse and keyboard. It all works, but my aim is absolutely terrible. Wouldn't use this for actual playing of this game.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#613,053
mine came this morning. haven't had a chance to use it yet. i'll get to try it out tomorrow. technically i gave it to my brother for his birthday so i'll get to play with it tomorrow night. i did get it out and mess with it, it has a nice feel to it. it's different, the face of the controller is concave, most controls these days have more of a convex face. but it's not uncomfortable. the buttons on the back have great placement, and i can hold all the trigger buttons with individual fingers and still feel like i've got a hold of it. the buttons had a decent enough action to them, and the track pads clicked nicely as well. looking forward to using it.
i've got another one on the way that i'll keep but it'll be a couple of weeks i suppose.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 17 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#613,258
Playing some more rocket league now that I'm used to the controller, and it is great. It feels a lot more accurate than my 360 controller.
I also tried some FTL which is made for mouse+keyboard, and it was totally playable! I had to 'craft' my controller config myself because you're mapping buttons to actions without hints, and none of the pre-made social configs did it for me. But it worked quite well, since the entire game is playable with the mouse and the trackpad is very good.
I wouldn't play FTL with the controller if mouse+keyboard are an option, but when chilling on the couch it is an excellent option.
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#613,299
> a controller for pc
why does pc try so hard to be like consoles?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 45 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#613,311
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#613,315
@previous (A)
how is the range on the controller? are you using it in the same room as your computer or are you in a different room? I'll probably get a steam link if people that got one like it, and i'm wondering if using the controller in a different room works well
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#613,316
@previous (squeegee)
first of all the steam link has a built in controller "dongle". but since i dont have mine yet i use my laptop and i have been hooking the dongle up my laptop when streaming, and that works perfectly. But at some point I had to run upstairs to adjust the volume of my PC (could not figure out how to do this through game streaming) and the controller still worked. So it works at least through the ceiling/floor one story up.
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squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#613,318
i only played in school and our team lost every single game
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 59 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,691
Does this controller repel Dorito dust?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,820
@612,824 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I just played the AoE2 HD remake, a game with absolutely no controller support, and it worked pretty good. Controlling the mouse works just fine, a bit slower than I'd be with an actual mouse but better than with a laptop trackpad. The game has a fuckload of shortcuts, but all of them are optional since you can just use the mouse. I bound some of the more commonly used ones, but in the end I wound up just using the mouse most of the time. When not playing competetively against humans this is great.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,825
so do you actually think playing an rts with a controller is comfortable? it seems to me like it would be unplayable
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,827
@previous (G)
yes, it is actually pretty good. i would still just use my mouse+keyboard when sitting at my desk, but when chilling on the couch I'll definitely be using the steam controller for this. see the attached image, the two circles are extremely sensitive touchpads that are fully configurable on what they do, and then you can bind the two triggers to left click and right click in such a way that you just have to very lightly squeeze them to cause a click. it works surprisingly good, i did not expect this.
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,853
@613,825 (G)
there's a dude who made it to grand master's in star craft 2 playing with an xbox controller. i doubt i could do it, i doubt i'd want to do it, but evidently RTS with gamepads is technically possible.
@previous (A)
you can also set the trigger when fully depressed to do a different action, so like in an FPS you can put aim on "light squeeze" and fire on "tight squeeze." one button to do two actions, kinda cool.
i did get to play with the controller today at my brother's, we did some Killing Floor 2. the touch pads are very sensitive, it did take some getting used to. his kids have been using it for a couple of days, they're pretty good with it. i didn't get to try typing, but my nephew tried it and said it works better very well. he said it's fast. pretty cool device, i'm looking forward to mine getting here.
oh yeah, and i really like the size and shape, it fits my hands nicely and i can 4 finger the triggers and bumpers which is something that's not super comfortable with other game pads. i lose grip. this one though feels like they planned for 6 fingers on buttons. it's nice, i don't have to take my thumb off of rotation OR translation.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,854
@previous (squeegee)
I really want to play WWE with this bad boy, please confirm for me that it's possible to configure something as a replacement for a second analog stick?
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,857
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
my brother tried it on GTA V and the default config he said acted like a virtual joystick. so yes. it's configurable as either a trackpad or a v-joy.
that was also something mentioned in the demo they did at gamescom (or wherever they demo'd it, pax maybe, idk).
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,902
@previous (squeegee)
I assume then you just move your thumb on the pad as if it were move the stick.
How does this controller fare with Big Picture mode?
Is it a comfy experience?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,914
@613,854 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
I already did that you fucking cunt
gruppi replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,931
@613,854 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Why not just use an xbox controller or a dual shock?. Those games dont require aiming so it will probably work just as well.
RWBY Rhubarb? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#613,936
@previous (gruppi)
If you were to buy this, I imagine you'd want it to work for all the different types of games you play. So it's good to know if it can handle everything you might play.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#613,951
holy shit this thing has a gyroscope i did not know that
wow this is gr8
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#613,953
@612,821 (A)
Bumpers is a name for index finger buttons that are not triggers
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#613,955
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#613,967
playing some more of the witcher 3. the touch pad is a better joystick than an actual joystick, i made the left touchpad the joystick and am instead using the actual joystick as a dpad. this makes movement a lot more pleasant and means that i have both fingers on a touchpad most of the time
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 9 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#614,087
Does this controller only work for Steam games?
@613,914 (A)
My apologies, I recall asking this in this thread before, but the answer seemed unconfirmed.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#614,199
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM) > Does this controller only work for Steam games?
At the moment, yes. You need to have steam running for it to work at all, properly. When not using steam it acts as a very minimal mouse+keyboard. It can only be customized for applications that are launched through steam. You can add non-steam games to steam and that'll work like a charm, though. You also need to launch the games from big-picture mode. I expect all of this to change eventually when either Steam develops a proper driver, or some third party does.
> My apologies, I recall asking this in this thread before, but the answer seemed unconfirmed.
I told you "Everything is configurable. I haven't played with all the settings yet, but I don't see why that wouldn't work." and provided a screenshot that showed the trackpad configured as a joystick.
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 1 day later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#614,540
I might as well ask this here. A friend of mine gave me a link to a PC build that he says is a "mini powerhouse" and if I spend a few more dollars for a 960 instead of a 750 it'll be boss.
Just wondering if you all agree.
@previous (A)
Damn it, I was looking at the wrong image. >.<
@612,929 (A)
I assume this was the image I overlooked? > Joystick Move > Joystick Camera
Do you happen to know the difference between these two settings?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 27 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#614,544
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
That cpu is probably a bit weak but really not too sure. I'm not great with picking out hardware. Head over to /r/buildapc and post your build there and ask for advice. Also do some lurking. And read the sidebar.
> Do you happen to know the difference between these two settings?
Not entirely sure what exactly the difference is, haven't played with that. I could check tonight. But basically one is optimized for controlling character movement (left stick usually) and the other for camera control (right stick usually)
Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#614,546
@previous (A)
Actually, that probably sums up the two already, derp.
Move for character movement and camera for camera controls.
Not entirely sure why you would want to figure both pads to be analog when there is an analog stick already attached.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#614,548
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Because it's more pleasant to use than the analog stick in some circumstances. For the witcher 3 I have both pads set to joysticks and the actual joystick set to the dpad. But for rocket league I prefer the actual joystick for movement.
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 2 days later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#615,514
oh, wow. check this out. dude has it setup where he used the gyroscope for fine tune aiming, so everything remains the same with the thumb pad-as-mouse setup, but when he holds his thumb in one place he has gyroscopic control of fine tuning the aim.
in practice it looks awesome. like, really really good. i'm absolutely giving this a try.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 day later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#615,975
@previous (squeegee)
I've tried this, and I see the potential, but it means you must sit leaned forward so you can freely move the controller, fine if you are tryharding I guess. And it does work quite well when you do that. I tend to sit with my legs up and my hands resting on them, so I don't really like moving the controller around much. But then again, I am usually just chilling instead of trying to shoot bitches.
I have played some half life 2 with the controller and it is excellent. Works really well. Portal 2 is good as well.
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Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 3 days later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#617,337
Getting hyped!
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#617,382
@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
yeah, me too. i've had a chance to play with it more than once now at my brother's. it's neat.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 days later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#618,045
So they just added this really neat feature. You can have an in-game overlay show up with you touch one of the touchpads, with up to 16 buttons! You specify which button to press by placing your finger in its corner, it is easy to click the buttons once you memorize where they are, but if you forget which is where you can find it pretty quickly.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#618,046
What it looks like with 16 buttons. You can change the size, position and opacity of the overlay
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 11 years ago, 1 day later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#618,665