Minichan

Topic: Some observations about leadership on this website

!Aeris47Q2o started this discussion 15 years ago #4,637

I have noticed while lurking on TC and on MC that the administration and moderatorship on both sites is quite strange.

As far as this site, I do not agree with some of the arbitrary modship granted to users not able to conduct the critical thinking necessary to make correct decisions in banning and editing posts.

Also there was the whole DM debacle in which the admin of this site didn't take necessary action until things got out of hand.

Most importantly I believe it is the temper of this website's admin that takes the cake for shoddy leadership traits, as he is well known for telling users to essentially never use his site again when a more peaceful resolution could be found.

If this site is to gain a more intelligent and worthwhile userbase then it is up to the leadership to seriously consider making a few changes.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #82,386

You're putting namefag's theory to the test then? Cool.

Ninjj joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #82,387

> If this site is to gain a more intelligent and worthwhile userbase then it is up to the leadership to seriously consider making a few changes.
That's what GHOUL is for.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #82,388

@82,386 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I find you and I agreeing way too much these days, KL.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #82,390

@OP
The board war/mod drama was kind of lame, even at it's peak. Can't you find something more interesting to revive rather than trying to stir this shit up again?

!Aeris47Q2o (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #82,392

@previous (E)
This has little to do with TC and more to do specifically with MC's administration, regardless of TC.

Both sites have serious pitfalls and I am simply discussing them at the same time, my favoritism is not shown nor is it important to the content of this thread.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #82,394

Nice public trip.
@82,387 (Ninjj)
Nice straw man.
@82,388 (D)
Nice ass kissing.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 days later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #86,157

@previous (F)
You don't know what a strawman is...

Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #86,452

> Also there was the whole DM debacle in which the admin of this site didn't take necessary action until things got out of hand.

As probably the only one here with over a decade of history re DM, the necessary action, delayed as it appeared to be, was not really any different then the 50 other sites he has fucked over and ended up banned from. Toyota took the swiftest action and that was because they were fed historical data. I felt there was no need to do that here or at TC.

Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #86,479

@previous (Syntax)
You have no real information on DM. Give us dates and names. What was the name of the school you claim he worked at and when do you claim he worked there?

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 11 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,088

@previous (G)
Ah A Troll eh
Fact is I have posted it over at TC. Now do I post it here? Don't know because I get mixed signals from one Mod in PM's vs the exact opposite from Sysops.

Soooooo I would like to sort out this confluent divergent order of differences 1st Here. If you are in a rush you could just go to TC and bump up a Topic that would be useful for me to put the information back in ---OoOOOOOoooops one small problem - Again it is already over on TC
Word of Honor and notice all know who I B - TC Sysops has verified in open my IP and location as wtf? some time ago with my request to verify.

The current 2nd issue is - If I were to post all of the info re school again....Some smart person here said - What happens if 40 people call the number all about the same time. That would not be a nice thing to do to a quality institution - I say quality because I have done extensive research on them --well hell its part of Lafayette Diocese, and Catholic church is so riddled with horrible awful stuff they try and sweep under rug as you well know.

So assuming they are squeaky clean, a mass of phone calls would not be a kind thing to do to them. I think one easy solution is for someone or 3 of trusty well known character, to mail me for the information and then they can make the calls and publish here what was said when they ask for Matt Miller. I can tell you that over time its a nice variety and always different and even on occasions something truly worth laffin at. Other times its just a simple -He no longer Works here - Which of course is is is well hell it just IS LMAO

Matt Miller has given permission as can be seen by Itamake's screen capture of what Matt Miller said regarding such - Matt Miller has deleted such content but NOT B4 it was captured for HISTORY lolololololol Miller trapped like a Rat in a cage of his own making what say?

Oh and ya know I exposed his Daddy as Felon as in Fed Felon convicted by Feds - out on technicality as they move for more Convict - all on web but far more on Lexus. Millers Con activities run in the family what say? Say there is new DOX lots of with Videos produced rite in his own backyard with assistance of his own computer files and even his own web cam with audio. So maybe u rite re I have less info then now sum?

Damn I still need to mail Henry and see if he has Matt DMV- I have it but on my Laptop in storage in Santa Monica on Zip disk. After all just ask Matt Miller about posting it for all 2C in Mental Ward lolol - Really dumb and stooopid of him eh

EYE would find it real cool if you could get Matt Miller to deny he showed us his DMV just as he Denies he worked at Catholic School o and what did he teach to very young girls? French of course!

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drea mworks joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 28 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,108

@previous (Syntax)
> Eye!=I

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 35 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,155

@87,088 (Syntax)
so basically you are unable to provide any specific information, just falsified generic information that is impossible to disprove

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,231

@87,108 (drea mworks)
EyE eye captain.
@previous (J)
You must be coming very late to the party. Lots provided here and at TC lots on other forums and many here are aware of the Mental Ward and earlier incantations. Some random Anonymous comes along late to the party and wants to see what is a lot of work. So Sorry, however you might consider if the person you are defending is defensible. At least you know or should know that he is banned from every and any Chan that has any value. One might ask this - When Eels set Matt Miller up in business, was it because Matt is open about his need for CP---After all Eels told me he approves of Matt Millers CP. Makes one wonder eh

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r04r joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,236

#winning

totofoeme !!VnSc8bbUm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,237

@87,231 (Syntax)
When did he say that?

Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,239

I think sim is a cool guy for the most part. If anyone disagrees I will make empty threats that I have no ability nor intentions of following up on and then do some shitposting. I love you sim, you fag.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,249

@87,236 (r04r)
Decoder with that?
@87,237 (totofoeme !!VnSc8bbUm)
When did Eles tell me he approves of Matts CP? I do not possess a Phonographic memory. Maybe in the last 5 weeks. I have been on Eels case because of well lol because of multiple PM's and other currently unmentionable things. Now dooooon't be thinking I think Eels is of little value. After all in the past when Matt Miller is banned. Matt Miller has been known to flood/spam the daylights out of places that showed him the door.

Eels put Miller into a box of his own making. That is a very good thing. Trapping Miller is a first, the way Eels set up the box to hold Miller in.

No one in the decade I have put my microscope on him, has anyone tried that form of control on Miller. However its also possible that Eels wants in on the possible benefits of the con game Miller is trying to run re Gullibles. After all Matt Miller grew up in a house hold built on con jobs.
@previous (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)

First I get a I love you from Sim in PM and just a day or two ago I see him doing that to me in the open. This will NOT make Eels happy at all.

Last I heard from Eels was a PM where he arguably justified making life hard on me for a bit lol. Then Sim weighs in and Eels refuses to address stuff with me. Should my feelings be hurt?

r04r replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,250

@previous (Syntax)
Hashtag winning

sim !!hlGHHomvc joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,259

@87,239 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,260

I don't have any problems with sim or any moderators. As long as you don't act like a complete shithead, you'll probably never even get so much as a warning.

> If this site is to gain a more intelligent and worthwhile userbase then it is up to the leadership to seriously consider making a few changes.
Many have read about my desire for more intelligent and worthwhile discussion but a) exactly what changes do you propose, b) how do you expect those changes to bring about more intelligent and worthwhile users/content, and c) what makes you think everyone here wants the changes you want? I might agree with you, but a lot of people here will just tell you what they've told me: that it's just a chan.

I honestly don't think the administration can make any changes that will bring about the intelligent and worthwhile content that you want to see. It's an online community where all the content is user generated, and it's ultimately up to the users to make the site what they want it to be. If the moderators made a bunch of new rules and started enforcing them with an iron fist to try to force the board to change, they'd ultimately just drive most users away without attracting any new ones.

sim !!hlGHHomvc replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,266

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
This.

The Editor !FuckWtfW8M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,268

I dunno what the fuck is going on here.

r04r replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,270

@previous (The Editor !FuckWtfW8M)
Letters are being typed, words are being constructed and sentences are being formed.

The Editor !FuckWtfW8M replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,273

@previous (r04r)
Well, there are an awful lot of them.

sim !!hlGHHomvc replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,274

@87,270 (r04r)
Weltrusten rawr.

r04r replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,275

@87,273 (The Editor !FuckWtfW8M)
Yes.

@previous (sim !!hlGHHomvc)
Jij ook!

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,289

@87,250 (r04r)
Oy Vie (if that is the correct form) Geeeeeeezzzzzussss H Krist do I feel dumb or what....Many days ago when I put up my regular blog stuff on Huffington (i do use paid editor to do that) someone came back at me with #Winning hashtag ....OK you win that round!

@87,239 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)

Leo Sim just needs a hot horny and Xtra special kind of real lady - of the Lady Gaga type of Katy Perry to churn him around and turn him out. Have yet to meet Lady G but did see her in recent show here in SD. Got more then a chance of recent date to be up close and personal with Katy Perry. Fireworks was more then possible with a little bit of help from them that can do - ME Not in that case - Networking wins hands down when law be close by saying no no you cannot do that here..THAT was done and documented on VH1 - Cryptic so as to not be busted by law here lol

Syntax double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,290

@87,270 (r04r)
Hell no...Not by Thee & I can document proof right in this joint.

Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,297

@87,231 (Syntax)
Please post the name of the catholic school DM was fired from. This will prove all your allegations. Without it, no one will believe anything you said.

@87,249 (Syntax)
screenshot of eels saying that please, or end your slander now.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 6 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,360

@previous (Q)
Y not run on over to Gullibles and get Matt Miller who said he never worked at Catholic Girls School in Lafayette (area) remember he bought needed Yaris 2 get there ....Ah getting there well now 2Get there one would go from Lafayette on the 49 heading towards Opelousas nor would one end up in Opelousas
Geeeeesusss just noticed that school is rite next to Graveyard good for Gravedigging again makes one go hummmmmmmm OK well anyway as one goes in Yaris if one needed to go that way to get2 work one would head towards the Grand Cock ooooooops just learned that that town is not Cock in French its some sort of n. 1. A hilly upland including the divide between two valleys; a divide.
2. The side of a valley.

The things one book Larns while on web eh - Anyway u just go get Miller 2say he don't give a flying fuck re name of school and then we get 3 intelligent people 2Fone up so as not 2Over whelm them & we go from there- U can C someone here has posted and asked for my eaddy and you can see me replying with it here in topic for. Then again I just gave you so fucking many hints so you can find it as you finger map on 49 and say u know we in Calif4nia have a most famous Hwy 49 the Gold mine Hwy 2Explore as well

> screenshot of eels saying that please, or end your slander now.

A tad bit hot under collar? You might consider getting Blood Pressure checked.

Now on the Subject of Eels which seems to get u so hot under limp dick - So speaking of Eels did you see this in MC Rules in bold?

Please respect the innovation and uniqueness of this place and do not support plagiarism and thieves.



Is NOT Eels supporting such???? Is that Slander 2Point out????

Me thinks that if Eels felt there was such Slander he would pop on in with ID and say as such eh - he sure b quiet these days---then again with his close personal relationship as sexual with Matt Miller one can understand Y he be absent without leave here so 2speak - I did ask him to grow some balls a while ago yet me thinks he need b of limp dick...

and der you habit this AM PST from Cardiff by the Sea

Poet don't you just know it

Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,363

@previous (Syntax)

Youre like a stuck record.

Anonymous Q replied with this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,377

I find it so hard to believe that DEF is not DM

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,395

@87,363 (R)
I should hope as much

@previous (Q)
lol ---- could be some sort of relationship - Huge difference such as - You must have viewed his open file or 10 of Youtube videos. Notice he is always alone in room. Currently he must be producing new ones to prove he can have company which would b Eels to dine with him or dine on him.

Now Thee what must have 5000 or more photos which 95% are Thee with Gals arm in arm or even body to body pressing in gentle of course --Smiles on their faces which must really piss off those who despise Thee lol. So there you have it. One common thread can be found with soon much more. I am a big fan of Cajun Culture as well as food and dancing/music YET not is the case of DM. What is the case is that my #1 client

Is moving as we speak from San Jose area Calif to of all places rite across the Lake from New Orleans ...4tune~at only corporate stuff as much Technical stuff they got stuck having to leave in Calif in multiple locations cause they were not paying close attention to details ---Wheeewwwwe as I NEED the free air trips up that way to get to San Francisco after taking care of business. YET with move to Louisiana for other business affairs I can do NO Jazz fest and other festivals on OTHER PEOPLES Money - but trust this - only because the Beaux Bridge festival is on same exact dates as Gator by the Bay San Diego (Mommas day weekend) I would b wayyyyyy 2close again to DM. AND Since my Mom taught me to be nice on occasion may I say..DM has more better English then Thee but hey not much money to be made with such unless one is a famous Author for e-books stuff.

I R a Author with print edition and e-book stuff as well - but of course employ editors re my unique form of English.

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Anonymous Q replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,403

@previous (Syntax)
we know DM is DM because he does timestamps

Have you ever done a timestamp for MC?

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,453

@previous (Q)
On occasions I do put up r/t PST
I like the format of time Chans use. It would be helpful for r/t stamps. Its a popular option on Phpbb forums. One sets ones own time zone and you see everyone based on your center of the planet. so it is now 7:40PST in Cardiff by the Sea SD

r04r replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,454

@previous (Syntax)
What. The guy meant a timestamped picture.

Anonymous Q replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,459

@previous (r04r)
lol this guy is too aspie to be true

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,461

@87,454 (r04r)
ah read my excuse for my reading skills (not so Dyslexic) just trying too hard to do work on the fly and have fun on net and pissed that I am not out in my Ocean Blue Surfing this Amazing fyne weather AM

I do not on any regular basis put up images. When the topic post pics where you live hit I said to meSelf dang ok I will and did...now why would I need to do a time stamp for such a topic? So no ....nor to be honest have I noticed DM using time stamps - frankly I pass his images on by unless for example the day I looked at all Youtubes - and that was the day I shared them with the co-founder of Youtube ...has something to do with what DM did to co-founder years ago. Sorta irony ---Youtube one of the best examples of a product headed for total $$$$ failure similar to ED issue with bandwidth and no way to cover the costs. Youtube an idea that drove BW to almost ultimate limits. Server farms and Intel went stark raving crazy trying to keep up.

Google the angel they are saved the day.

Anonymous Q replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,462

@previous (Syntax)
we know DM is the same man as in the pictures because he has posted timestamped pics

we do not know that you are the same man that is in the pictures

totofoeme !!VnSc8bbUm replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,463

@87,461 (Syntax)
You don't understand, bebe. Matt has posted timestamped pics in the past, so he no longer needs to do so.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,485

@87,462 (Q)
What? I do not put up pics of myself ever. I own fancy cameras with all those extra expensive lenses and do not use them anymore. Friends take lots of pics of me and other friends and that is how so many end up on net. I honestly wish someone would find the skiing pics or mountain climbing pics or surfing pics buuuuuut I will not lead them to the net files. + lots of photoshopped pics from the Faggot peeps like Matt and his crew.

So how can anyone here point to me re time stamps on pics?

@previous (totofoeme !!VnSc8bbUm)
what i just said....r i missing a point?

Anonymous R replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,589

@previous (Syntax)
So what you are saying is that you are a massive faggot, and you require an immediate face raping?

Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,591

@87,363 (R)
Lolthis. A really fucking annoying stuck record.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 15 years ago, 45 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,624

@previous (S)
This. I don't even mind the length of his posts. I'd probably enjoy reading them if they actually made sense. I've seen him post a lot of perfectly normal stuff, which leads me to believe that he might just be intentionally trying to get on people's nerves. I find myself ignoring his posts more and more.

Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,632

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
you mad you dont possess the decoder ring.

Anonymous S replied with this 15 years ago, 40 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,701

@87,624 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Yep. I pretty much just ignore his posts nowadays. He digresses and rambles way too much for my liking.

Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,709

Does anyone have any proof that syntax is the open-mouthed dancing old man that we have seen in photogrpahs?

Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,730

@87,260 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)

> If the moderators made a bunch of new rules and started enforcing them with an iron fist to try to force the board to change, they'd ultimately just drive most users away without attracting any new ones.

To my knowledge they are good people, with good intentions. Sim is definitely a bro. Making a bunch of arbitrary iron-fist rules would drive away most users, but why is it always one extreme or the other? Everything goes or nothing does? I don't think anyone wants a board with 10,000 rules, and if they do they are in the wrong place. In fact I'd go as far to say that any community needs a certain amount of drama and fun to remain interesting and active. And the day Nickalollyoff can't make a funny thread is the day the rules have gone too far, he's a good guy who just comes here to have fun.

I haven't been around, and I don't know how/if things have changed, but this thread is a good indication that they haven't. Who is this creepy fuck DM stalker, and more importantly why is he here? Is this considered normal or acceptable behavior by anyone? REALLY? Why almost every time I visit the board there are there CP related threads on the front fucking page? Am I supposed to believe its not the same old CP obsessed creeps creating these threads? Or perhaps I have it all wrong and they are all just "trolls", hand-fed by this community. Either way is this shit doing anything at all good or positive for this place? There must be a thousand boards where they could have real discussions about CP, why come here?

If we accept that the board does not get new users, then we must accept that it is the same old people, pulling the same old shit since the beginning. Fucking hilarious. I'm not sure which is worse, the fact that they would continue doing the same shit for so long, or the fact that they would be allowed to do so for so long. And no, this is just not about CP or stalkers/harassers. Y'all have been here long enough to know what the problems are. In fact you've been here so long the problems have become normal, or at the very least acceptable. The solution has become to throw up your arms and say "well at least we have posters".

The same old song and dance. The majority of people here are great people who just come to chat, laugh, whatever. Its always been the same minority that causes the problems, and to my knowledge little/nothing has ever been done to stop them. In all this time. So is there a problem with the admins? Maybe not, maybe I expect admins to actually do something sometimes. Mountainman and DM were allowed to fuck this place up forever, openly day in and day out before something was done. One could argue DM wasn't so bad, and they might be right, but that's another discussion, he was obviously a problem for those in charge. And I guess that's all that matters...

If there were no problems at all, moderators wouldn't step down on a regular basis, and users like me wouldn't say "I'd like to be here, but this place is just too fucked up by the same old shit and the same old people to enjoy".

<3


*in other news every time I try to post it says "Lurk for at least 60 seconds before posting your first reply.". lolbugs*

Anonymous D replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,732

@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Could it really be?

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,856

@87,624 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
lol good for you. Time is money.
@87,701 (S)
You as well

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r04r replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,858

@87,730 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Enable cookies or something. You have an 1 post UID as the only UID associated to your IP.

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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #87,867

@87,730 (Ks !KansasxqvM)

> > If the moderators made a bunch of new rules and started enforcing them with an iron fist to try to force the board to change, they'd ultimately just drive most users away without attracting any new ones.
>
> To my knowledge they are good people, with good intentions. Sim is definitely a bro. Making a bunch of arbitrary iron-fist rules would drive away >most users, but why is it always one extreme or the other? Everything goes or nothing does? I don't think anyone wants a board with 10,000 rules, >and if they do they are in the wrong place. In fact I'd go as far to say that any community needs a certain amount of drama and fun to remain >interesting and active. And the day Nickalollyoff can't make a funny thread is the day the rules have gone too far, he's a good guy who just comes >here to have fun.

Drama and fun is cool


> I haven't been around, and I don't know how/if things have changed, but this thread is a good indication that they haven't. Who is this creepy fuck DM stalker, and more importantly why is he here? Is this considered normal or acceptable behavior by anyone? REALLY?

Damned if I know yet been here for a long time but Stealth nor did I ever participate in DM anything...not while he was still here and not even until it looked like he was gone for good. Would have been here sooner in the open if not for well lets just say DM had protection here after he was gone and one Mod decided he did not want anymore DM drama which I agree has gone over the top here

> Why almost every time I visit the board there are there CP related threads on the front fucking page? Am I supposed to believe its not the same >old CP obsessed creeps creating these threads? Or perhaps I have it all wrong and they are all just "trolls", hand-fed by this community. Either way >is this shit doing anything at all good or positive for this place? There must be a thousand boards where they could have real discussions about CP, >why come here?

On that question I do know the answer - You can find a poll just a couple 3 days old about CP - People could choose it 3 ways. Should CP be legal or illegal OR OR OR Decriminalized ---Have not reviewed it recently but the last time I looked!!!! Far too many voted to Decriminalize...

Very Sad in my book - Extremely Sad ....Y here when they could hang at AnT

> If we accept that the board does not get new users, then we must accept that it is the same old people, pulling the same old shit since the >beginning. Fucking hilarious. I'm not sure which is worse, the fact that they would continue doing the same shit for so long, or the fact that they >would be allowed to do so for so long. And no, this is just not about CP or stalkers/harassers. Y'all have been here long enough to know what the >problems are. In fact you've been here so long the problems have become normal, or at the very least acceptable. The solution has become to throw up your arms and say "well at least we have posters".

One might look at what just happened when MC dropped the ban on 98% of banned people. Activity jumped up here and dropped off at TC.
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> The same old song and dance. The majority of people here are great people who just come to chat, laugh, whatever. Its always been the same >minority that causes the problems, and to my knowledge little/nothing has ever been done to stop them. In all this time. So is there a problem with >the admins? Maybe not, maybe I expect admins to actually do something sometimes. Mountainman and DM were allowed to fuck this place up forever, >openly day in and day out before something was done. One could argue DM wasn't so bad, and they might be right, but that's another discussion, he was >obviously a problem for those in charge. And I guess that's all that matters...

IF you really knew the Decade and 1/2 history of how DM has fucked over bbs's forums and even serious only topic forums over that period, and how long it took Mods/Sysops to wise up, and compare it to TC/MC you would discover that they may have taken a little longer yet not that much longer to correct the matter. Its fucking hard when the idea is to maintain Free Speech. And for the record I have been asked by multiple Sysops to assist in keeping him out of places he was banned at, because of what he has done afterward to continue to fuck the places over.

In this instance one Mod here may have come up with the best solution I have seen in that Decade and 1/2

> If there were no problems at all, moderators wouldn't step down on a regular basis, and users like me wouldn't say "I'd like to be here, but this >place is just too fucked up by the same old shit and the same old people to enjoy".
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> *in other news every time I try to post it says "Lurk for at least 60 seconds before posting your first reply.". lolbugs*

No its because you cleared your cookies and you can do that and post rite away at TC - Here on cookie cleaning crumbs up you wait 60 each time

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