vocalon !0oDERPONYY joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#82,614
quickly! Someone register anontalk.xxx
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#82,624
@82,021 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
no, buy homose.xxx and put straight porn on it. :D
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Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 51 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#82,653
60$ a year and they got a bunch of stupid rules too. It supposedly goes towards inspecting and policing .xxx sites, but they may just pocket instead of spending it on enforcement like they did with .mobi. How many fucking extensions do we need, seriously? And its fucking retarded when they have a bunch of rules for a given extension. Says the crafting gecko.
goatse.xxx appears to be open crafting gecko is dissapoint.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#82,663
@previous (Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5.)
They will probably pocket most of it, but I am sure some enforcement is done. And they only receive $50 of the registration, $10 goes to charity. > extensions
TLDs* > How many fucking extensions do we need, seriously?
Names go fast, and if we only had a few it would be too hard to get a good domain. Some TLDs are useful:
.gov: Very useful. I know whatever comes from here is actually from the government. Could you imagine having to try and guess for all government sites? It would be very annoying, and insecure.
.edu: Only accredited schools can get these, and so students have credibility with an email from one.
.jobs: Many companies forward company.jobs to company.com/careers or company.com/jobs etc.
And of course each country has their own, which is up to the country to decide how it's used. > And its fucking retarded when they have a bunch of rules for a given extension.
Without rules the extensions are meaningless. It's a way to categorize the web, and I don't want my "site:xxx" google search turning up anything but porn, because that's why I search for it in the first place.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#82,680
@82,653 (Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5.)
how's the story book coming along?
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#82,682
@82,653 (Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5.)
Go away, The Coon.
Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5. replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#82,711
@82,663 (A) > but I am sure some enforcement is done
Yeah look at .mobi it has been regarded as a farce for not enforcing their long list of rules that nobody follows. > .gov/.edu
Shits all over all non-US countries. Should be .gov.us / .edu.us, why does US get its own special domains while nobody else does? > .jobs
Only good if you are CEO of a big computer company and can register steve.jobs, or are the luck bastard that registered blow.jobs. And see they just forward it by your argument anyways, which means they don't need it they just use /careers but were coerced by domain system to buy .jobs defensively so some squatter doesn't take it and deface their name. > Without rules the extensions are meaningless. It's a way to categorize the web, and I don't want my "site:xxx" google search turning up anything but porn, because that's why I search for it in the first place. > extensions
TLD's FUCKINGIDIOT
There are plenty of other ways they could have set up a universal way to identify porn (half way decent search engines/filters ought to be able to id it on their own anyways). Why not identify porn with a meta tag or text file or a subdomain xxx.whatever.com? Those would all work, but NO it has to be done the way that they can extort millions out of people with a domain.
Why would I want a .xxx with a bunch of rules imposed on me? Why not just think of another .com or get a net or org or something that doesn't have extra rules.
It's a money grab, just like shitty "3d" content. The shitty fake stereoscopic 3d pushers and domain whores should team together and make a .3d domain and charge $250/domain and make a killing. Imagine http://cocks.3d/ and you go there and dicks pop out of the screen and shoot come in your face.
crafting gecko is mad.
@82,680 (F)
Well the crafting gecko is big and dark and long and curious and has red swollen bumps so far.
> Shits all over all non-US countries. Should be .gov.us / .edu.us, why does US get its own special domains while nobody else does?
I agree. Not fair, however it's still useful. And some non-US schools have .edu (it's just not allowed any longer). > > .jobs > Only good if you are CEO of a big computer company and can register steve.jobs, or are the luck bastard that registered blow.jobs.
What? Anyone can register a .jobs if they use it legitimately. The two non-liegitmate uses you mention don't work, they aren't real domains. > And see they just forward it by your argument anyways
If I want to find a jobs or career page, this saves me time. No digging around to find it, I just type in "jobs" instead of "com". > which means they don't need it they just use /careers but were coerced by domain system to buy .jobs defensively so some squatter doesn't take it and deface their name.
No one if forcing them to buy. If someone tries to take their domain first, then the company can file a suit, and have the domain taken down. > There are plenty of other ways they could have set up a universal way to identify porn (half way decent search engines/filters ought to be able to id it on their own anyways). Why not identify porn with a meta tag or text file or a subdomain xxx.whatever.com? Those would all work, but NO it has to be done the way that they can extort millions out of people with a domain.
Those can't be regulated. I could just add any tags I wanted. I could pretend to be a government site, or an accredited school. > Why would I want a .xxx with a bunch of rules imposed on me? Why not just think of another .com or get a net or org or something that doesn't have extra rules.
It's a vanity thing. I wouldn't want my porn shop called "furries network" or "tranny organization". xxx fits.
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#82,797
> > Shits all over all non-US countries. Should be .gov.us / .edu.us, why does US get its own special domains while nobody else does? > I agree. Not fair, however it's still useful. And some non-US schools have .edu (it's just not allowed any longer). > > > .jobs > > Only good if you are CEO of a big computer company and can register steve.jobs, or are the luck bastard that registered blow.jobs. > What? Anyone can register a .jobs if they use it legitimately. The two non-liegitmate uses you mention don't work, they aren't real domains. > > And see they just forward it by your argument anyways > If I want to find a jobs or career page, this saves me time. No digging around to find it, I just type in "jobs" instead of "com".
How often does a normal person type in a .jobs? Virtually anyone that isn't an internet geek has no idea .jobs even exists. Type-ins for .net is nearly non existant. And type in's for undeveloped .com's are abysmal (with VERY few exceptions). .info, .biz and obscure crap is even worse on type-ins. Now who the hell is going to type in an unknown like .jobs? People use search engines instead of type in these days. They are tired of typing in domains and being greeted by a squatter page with nothing but ads or nothing loading. > > which means they don't need it they just use /careers but were coerced by domain system to buy .jobs defensively so some squatter doesn't take it and deface their name. > No one if forcing them to buy. If someone tries to take their domain first, then the company can file a suit, and have the domain taken down.
Filing a suit can be an expensive and long, frustrating process (and you aren't guaranteed to win, they could come up with some scam to make it look like they have legitimate claim). And the damage may already be done by the time they get it back. For these reasons many companies just pay off the registry the protection money to avoid this situation. > > There are plenty of other ways they could have set up a universal way to identify porn (half way decent search engines/filters ought to be able to id it on their own anyways). Why not identify porn with a meta tag or text file or a subdomain xxx.whatever.com? Those would all work, but NO it has to be done the way that they can extort millions out of people with a domain.
> Those can't be regulated. I could just add any tags I wanted. I could pretend to be a government site, or an accredited school.
Something like .gov.us or .edu.us, and the country codes have a useful purpose, .xxx do not. There are plenty of .com's and such already 'pretending to be porn sites'. .xxx doesn't force porn to be on xxx, and if it did it would be a tyranny. In fact now that it is online, conservative whack jobs could push legislation to force porn to .xxx. xxx is still self-regulation because it is completely optional, you can't regulate an industry if not everyone participates. Porn companies will probably get their .xxx defensively and redirect it to their .com. > > Why would I want a .xxx with a bunch of rules imposed on me? Why not just think of another .com or get a net or org or something that doesn't have extra rules. > It's a vanity thing. I wouldn't want my porn shop called "furries network" or "tranny organization". xxx fits.
Yes, but domains other than .com, .net, and .org are pretty much unknown by the public masses. It confuses people. .com means 'website' to most people. If you own a porn website, "tranny website" says it all, a site you can go on and look at trannies.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#83,561
@previous (Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5.)
Shit, why even have tlds at all then? Might as well just get rid of it. just have "google" and "facebook", eh??
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 15 years ago, 17 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#84,048
Why are you putting Google and Facebook in quotes?
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#84,061
@82,711 (Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5.) > Shits all over all non-US countries. Should be .gov.us / .edu.us, why does US get its own special domains while nobody else does?
Because American organizations initiated and now run this stuff?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#84,131
@84,048 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
Because I'm not reffering to their name but their domain. end quote to show that there is not dot com following it.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#84,140
@84,061 (B)
The US doesn't control the domain name system any longer.
Crafting Gecko !4QYV2l3e5. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#84,182
@83,561 (A)
That would certainly be easier, but very hard to switch at this point since every thing is running on the TLD system already.
TLD's with a well-defined purpose and consumer recognition are meaningful.
.com is synonymous with web, and online and website, even though it was meant to mean commerce.
com is recognized by everyone. net/org are understood by most everyone.
net means 'internet related'. org means organization.
Since every webssite on the internet is on the inter*net*, and usually has some kind of an *org*anization behind it (be it a business, or group of people interested in a subject), there is allot of overlap between com/net/org, but they are all universally recognized, and that is why they are meaningful.
The same is true of country codes in their given countries (except US, nobody really uses .us there, likely cause they have their exclusive .gov/.edu/.mil)
Country codes give each country a sovereignty over their internet space and their own ecosystem, that is a well defined purpose. .edu.*, .gov.* have their purposes, and most people (i think) recognize them.
.xxx may have a supposed purpose, but many believe it is unneeded. It also has no recognition by the average person.
No average consumer (non-internet-nerd) knows what the fuck a .name, .ws, .co, .mobi, .xxx, .tk, .jobs, .travel, .aero, .coop, .museum, .pro, .biz, .tel is
Although I must admit .pro is amusing just for http://starcraft2.pro/ -- site looks dead though, it is still full of headlines about beta.
TLD;R
There are *a few* cases for having special TLD's, but overly specific and exotic TLD's are not needed and confusing to consumers, and are usually just a cash grab by the registry.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#84,188
> It also has no recognition by the average person.
Well, of course it has no recognition. It's just been approved, and no site has yet gotten a domain. It will probably become very well known in the future. > No average consumer (non-internet-nerd) knows what the fuck a .name, .ws, .co, .mobi, .xxx, .tk, .jobs, .travel, .aero, .coop, .museum, .pro, .biz, .tel is
.ws, .co, .tk are just country code domains.
.coop is recognized by some, but mostly no one know what a cooperative is in the first place.
Most of the ones you mentioned are too niche. Porn makes up most of the internet.
> There are *a few* cases for having special TLD's, but overly specific and exotic TLD's are not needed and confusing to consumers, and are usually just a cash grab by the registry.
Some were idiotic, niche, overly expensive, and add nothing.
Think about this:
.xxx could auto Incognito/private browsing. Perhaps an addon could do this, or the browser could add it as a feature.
That's just one useful feature.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#84,231
@previous (A) > .xxx could auto Incognito/private browsing. Perhaps an addon could do this, or the browser could add it as a feature.
I hadn't thought about that until now, and that's brilliant. It could also be set to sandbox automatically, turn off cookies, etc, and take other measures to raise security without actually having to constantly switch your settings back and forth or think about it. This really is a great idea.
However, I do sympathize with some of the people in this thread who point out that ICANN might be doing it just as a way to make more money. Every time you register a .com domain, they ask you if you'd also like to buy the .net, .org, etc to protect your name, and sometimes it does seem like they're there just to make you add more to your basket. Now with xxx in the mix, it is just one more brick in the wall. Porn sites fight over names like crazy as it is, so while adding xxx kinda makes sense because it doubles the number of potential porn domains, it's completely pointless if every porn site owner rushes to get the xxx version of their site secured just to make sure no one gets their name. So instead of getting more breathing room in the domain name market, you just having every single porn site owner forking over an extra $60/year for no good reason.
While xxx will be very useful for all the reasons listed in this thread, and it does make sense to categorize the web, something needs to be done about the current domain name system. The current monopoly is ridiculous, the power that registrars have and what it costs to be a registrar are ridiculous, and cyber-squatting is way out of control. Fix these issues, and then the xxx thing is hands down a great idea.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 double-posted this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#84,233
On another note, I just noticed that facebook.net does not exist. No doubt this is because facebook isn't going to let it exist, however, why does it not forward to facebook.com? There is simply nothing there. Facebook is a multi-billion-dollar company, and it would only cost them what? $10/year per domain name to have every facebook URL go to the site?
Edit: facebook.org goes to facebook.com, but why not facebook.net? I guess because typing in .org by mistake is a lot more common than .net. I guess it just goes back to what was mentioned earlier about different extensions being more recognizable than others.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#84,235
> > It also has no recognition by the average person. > Well, of course it has no recognition. It's just been approved, and no site has yet gotten a domain. It will probably become very well known in the future.
See this: > > No average consumer (non-internet-nerd) knows what the fuck a .name, .ws, .co, .mobi, .xxx, .tk, .jobs, .travel, .aero, .coop, .museum, .pro, .biz, .tel is
All these were 'just approved' at one point, and would supposedly become well known.
> .ws, .co, .tk are just country code domains.
.ws, .co, and .tk are country code domains whose countries whored out to the global market (to make a money grab) that were all supposed to be the next big thing, and today they are still obscure and unknown (except maybe in their countries?). .ws was supposed to stand for WebSite and .co was supposed to be a "dot com killer", and .tk, well they just gave them away for free, then tried to lock you into them once you had a site going, and all sorts of nasty stuff.
> .coop is recognized by some, but mostly no one know what a cooperative is in the first place.
Exactly. They are making TLD's even for things nobody even knows what it is. Fucking madness.
> Most of the ones you mentioned are too niche. > Porn makes up most of the internet.
People said the same type of things about .mobi, there is the whole mobile internet! The whole internet is going mobile! Everyone is making mobile versions of their site these days, and mobile is growing at an exponential rate! (These facts are true, but .mobi still failed into obscurity, do you see .mobi buttons on phones? Nobody knows what .mobi is.)
> > There are *a few* cases for having special TLD's, but overly specific and exotic TLD's are not needed and confusing to consumers, and are usually just a cash grab by the registry. > Some were idiotic, niche, overly expensive, and add nothing.
Agreed.
> Think about this: > .xxx could auto Incognito/private browsing. Perhaps an addon could do this, or the browser could add it as a feature. > > That's just one useful feature.
Just creates a false sense of privacy, because not all porn sites will be using .xxx. You will think "i don't need to think about hiding my porn tracks, this addon does it by detecting .xxx!", but in reaility your porn browsing will consist of porn sites using a variety TLD's, meaning you think your porn tracks are hidden, but then girlfriend/wife/mom or whoever hops on and sees you've been fapping to trannies and barely legal sluts.
And Crafting Gecko really resents .xxx because of the code they used, it is very cliche'd and not catchy or elegant to say. It's just no fun. They should have made .cum (clever play on .com) for general porn, .nut for internet-related-porn-related stuff, and .orgy for threesomes and stuff, and organizations (that have orgies together).