Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 17 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,602
@607,498 (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q) @607,502 (E)
kook, Walter, and Autphag are mostly here to be mad about trannies. Catherine is a tranny who talks about being a tranny a lot, so it is natural that they would gravitate towards each other to form a vortex of stupidity.
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Anonymous I double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,603
@607,601 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Is you obsession with trannies a 15 minute hobble from your nursing home?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 48 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,604
@607,602 (I)
Outdated information. Autphag is here to be mad in general and kook and I are here to be mad at SJWs.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,605
By SJW you mean all trannies who you decided are fake
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,607
@607,604 (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
No, kook is still mostly mad about the trannies. The SJWs sometimes get a mention but the trannies are what she spends the most time being mad about.
You are angrier about the SJWs than kook, but seem to spend more time being mad about Catherine. And as you are mad about his status as a tranny, my point stands.
But I am forced to agree about Autphag. If he can perceive it, then he is mad about it.
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WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,608
@607,605 (J)
By SJWs I mean the SJWs who post anonymously to get mad for some reason.
@previous (I)
I only get mad at Catherine, who is a crossdressing transmedicalist who isn't even transitioning, calling Sophie a man because she disagrees with her personal politics (because being right-wing is only for men, right?). To be trans is to be transitioning, anyway.
Kook doesn't seem to be getting mad at trannies so much as the weird snowflakey entitled translesbians who she perceives as being straight men.
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Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,614
@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
kook thinks that all or most trannies are like the ones you described, so it is effectively the same thing.
Rogi tiQBrOS.jo joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,633
lol mad everywhere
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 43 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,642
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 36 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,687
@607,680 (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q)
Yeah that happens frequently
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,690
@607,686 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
But you cannot be healthy at every size. If you are too fat or thin then your health will have problems.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,695
@previous (I)
Yes I agree, but it's like big movement where very heavy women have blue hair and red lipstick say, "Fuck your beauty standereds!" and claim that weight doesnt cause health problems and doctors who say otherwise/men who dont want to fuck their folds are bigoted shitlords.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 27 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,722
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,734
@previous (J)
I'm not going to bring their names into this, as they are not already involved. One of them claimed to have been triggered by squeegee talking about his life as a native american, so thats a clue.
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,736
kook is legitimately angry about internet forums lmao
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,741
@previous (F)
I'm almost never angry, I'm just naturally aggressive
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,743
So that's Vocalon, who hasn't posted for ages except for a short amount of time last early summer, and even then did nothing but troll. Who is the other person?
Sophie !MLHqI35Srs joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,744
@607,736 (F)
Someone legitimately struggles with affective empathy. This descends from Aspie territory to full-blown, psychopathic retard.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,748
@607,743 (J)
the other person is nice but misguided, so I wont provide his name
Oh and probably two others that are anon now
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Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,751
Did you know that transitioning is only used as a course of treatment to in severe cases where therapy simply doesn't work?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#607,892
I love you all!!!
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,893
@607,891 (J)
Therapy is destined not to work because it's merely a gatekeeping process. Such a deterrent works only on the mentally deficient (they have inferior conviction, irrespective of sincerity). Besides, it's not as if most trannies don't circumvent the system, even if that means moving where the transition process isn't surrounded with such centralized artifice.
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Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,910
It's a treatment, not a deterrent. To refuse a less harmful treatment option because you wish for the more harmful one is to miss the forest for the trees and is the sign of a stubborn and closed (weak) mind.
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,914
@previous (J)
Harm is not a zero-sum game; it needs to be weighed in terms of benefit. You are also comparing the difference between an often ineffectual and another life-changing - often for the better - treatment too. So the myopia here lies with the one screaming wolf, you.
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,925
@607,891 (J)
Now thats what I've always believed. But I've been called misguided by trannies and supporters time and time again
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,953
They're wrong and/or misinformed then. There are stages of severity and therapy is enough to deal with the lesser ones. It doesn't mean you're a fake though and I don't really like seeing that.
Transition is a traumatic and irreversible procedure that will open the patient up to a lifetime of discrimination and abuse. It shouldn't be the first option of treatment but instead should be considered a last ditch effort to treat, which is the way it actually is thanks. You seem delusional, which means you are mistaking imaginary things for reality. In actual fact the vast majority of transwomen follow procedure, with a vocal minority circumventing the system.
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,957
@607,910 (J)
Maybe we should treat sane adults as adults and let them safely go about how they want to.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,962
@607,953 (J)
Although if they never transitions, never get hormones checked, and never even crossdress, I wouldnt call them women either.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,964
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,966
@607,891 (J)
Those aren't "severe cases", I think those are just regular cases of gender dysphoria. The condition is biological and innate in nature, so expecting "therapy" (whatever you mean by that) to deal with it is like expecting therapy to address homosexuality.
I agree that gender ressaignment surgery is a big step and shouldn't be stepped into without a lot of forethought beforehand. But implying that most transsexuals just need some therapy to get rid of their condition doesn't correlate with what I've read about the condition.
Anonymous I double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,967
@607,925 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic) @607,962 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
In your mind, are the majority of supposed transsexuals actually fake?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,973
@607,964 (J)
Um, that's how it is done here. Hurrah the man instead.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,976
@607,967 (I)
I believe most of them have fetishes and other mental issues that contribute to a feeling of not fitting in. Like autism.
Thats why they insist on banning the use of certain words, or changing the meaning of certain words and phrases. Because even small things that remind them that they arent women, bring the whole mental charade crashing down.
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WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,977
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Autism seems to harbor a more neutral gender identity.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,978
@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
Until they see tumblr and decide that they must be women
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,979
@607,976 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I see. Do you have sympathy/support for "legitimate" cases of people with gender dysphoria? You did refer to Sophie as brave when she said she was transitioning.
Also, how did you form this impression of most transsexuals actually having some vague mish-mash of fetishes and mental issues?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,982
@607,978 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Or the opposite, with the ftm/genderqueer yaoiloving autoandrophiles. There is also the femboy, who takes her and dresses up sometimes but lives as a guy. A pretty guy but still a guy.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,984
@607,979 (I)
yes I do respect people who actually try. I formed my opinions from seeing them, talking to them, and reading what they write when they think that they are in "safe spaces".
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,985
@607,982 (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
Yes that true. What do you think of our three confirmed internet trannies? Not counting brie or the suspected anons.
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WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 41 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,986
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Sophie is probably intersex given the things she told me, like having what sounded like somewhat ambiguous genitalia at birth and having androgen insensitivity.
ACE is strange. She is strictly nonop but wants to pass as a girl, perhaps a slightly tomboyish/soft butch one but still. Basically a gay but slightly curious femboy/trap.
Catherine is pathologically truscum.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,987
@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw) > somewhat ambiguous genitalia at birth
Bet that gets your juices going.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 32 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#607,993
@607,986 (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
Yes I believe that Sophie is an intersex. What about Owl and Vocalon?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 45 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,037
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
TheOwl seems to be a plain ol' translesbian. Not particularly controversial. Vocalon seems to be the sort to get off to having to suck sweaty working man cock while dressed as a girl. Probably isn't triggered by his own penis, but almost definitely prefers to top.
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,151
@607,953 (J)
Get to fuck. To see even KL disagree with you is a first.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,162
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,163
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Therapeutic efforts are entirely futile in the treatment of gender dysphoria and yet it is insisted by Anonymous J that what's effectively an overglorified gatekeeping procedure in what is essentially an overglorified process of suppression (itself traumatic) is "successful" in the majority of circumstances; what's more, they are insistent that the vast majority of transwomen abide by such a procedure willingly when the truth is that they are merely ignorant of alternative recourses. The rest of their argument is merely scaremongering, ofc. It's not like they aren't discriminated for their latent effeminacy anyway.
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Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,208
It doesn't get rid of it, but it can be used to treat it. A lot of transwomen can use therapy to become comfortable in their natural bodies without them having to transition (which is a form of treatment designed to make the patient comfortable with having GD and is not the natural end result of having GD)
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,227
@608,151 (M)
What? I've always maintained that transsexuality is very deeply biological thing and can't really be cured or really treated with therapy and such. Why are you acting surprised at how I responded?
@608,163 (M)
Nonetheless, I think you're correct with what you're saying here.
@previous (J)
I'm very skeptical of what you're saying, given what my own reading of the condition has told me. But still, you seem to be spesking sincerely so I will hear you out. Could you provide any statistics or research to back up what you're saying?
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Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,232
Scroll to "treatment for adults" then read the paragraph under the points.
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 54 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,243
@previous (J)
It basically says that the UK would happily resort to further suppression effort if such time-wasting measures are instrumental to dissuasion.
It makes the mistake of seeing the NHS as a legitimate institution, and not a bureaucratic clusterfuck of inconsistent services manned by abusive staff with nil consideration for ethics, as have been the experiences of many a Brit I've spoken to.
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WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#608,252
@608,208 (J)
Individuals without dysphoric will be quickly rendered dysphoric through HRT anyways. It is a good enough gate for gender dysphoria. Therapy alone will only suppress dysphoria and will result in yet another hon for leftists to feel multicultural about and right wingers to mock, harass and assault.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 40 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,261
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,262
@previous (J)
Those with dysphoria will respond well to estrogen; those without it will become distressed at the loss of a sex drive.
This is why your overglorified conversion therapy is bullshit.
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,263
@previous (M)
The sex drive kill can be averted through proper dosing and being weaned off T and onto E and maybe even progesterone. Hell, erectile function can be preserved through continued use if so desired.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,304
What are your thoughts on all of our trans posters?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,393
@previous (J)
The namefags are usually cool but the anonymous ones tend toward scum.
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,394
@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw) > 2015 > assuming anybody whom tells you to kill yourself must be a tranny SJW
ISHYGDDT
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,396
@previous (E)
They tend to be envious of my happiness.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#608,431
@608,232 (J) > For some people, support and advice from a clinic are all they need to feel comfortable in their gender identity.
That doesn't really say that transitioning is only for "severe cases" or that it's some sort of last resort if therapy doesn't work, just that some transsexuals are can become satisfied without transitioning.
I did not mean to imply that such people don't exist, but I don't think that this supports what you seemed to be saying.
@608,252 (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw) > Individuals without dysphoric will be quickly rendered dysphoric through HRT anyways.
Uh, I'm pretty sure that can't happen. A gender identity isn't really an easy thing to change.