Topic: Are disabled women more victims than disabled men?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E started this discussion 11 years ago #45,920
I saw in the news that some feminists claimed disabled women need special attention because they have it worst of all groups. And i am like, fuck you, disabled men have it pretty bad too!
Killer Lettuce?? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #606,074
damn those feminists, those hateful shrews
they are RUINING everything!
they are RUINING everything!
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #606,078
kook !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 46 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #606,090
They are more likely to be raped, but disabled men are more prone to violence and fraud, and neglect.
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #606,091
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #606,095
@606,090 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Even if so, if it also happens to disabled men, why willfully ignore that part of people who are victims of the same crime?
Even if so, if it also happens to disabled men, why willfully ignore that part of people who are victims of the same crime?
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 39 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #606,097
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E replied with this 11 years ago, 26 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #606,098
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,100
@606,097 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
But aren't people doing that when they focus on victims with a particular gender?
But aren't people doing that when they focus on victims with a particular gender?
Killer Lettuce?? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,102
@606,091 (D)
It probably is.
The feminists, man, they are no longer the force for progressive good that they were. They have turned to the dark side of the force, an only deal in absolutes. And are evil.
It probably is.
The feminists, man, they are no longer the force for progressive good that they were. They have turned to the dark side of the force, an only deal in absolutes. And are evil.
Anonymous B double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,103
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,112
@606,100 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Yes they are, unless those victims are already underrepresented. Which doesn't seem like the case in this instance
Yes they are, unless those victims are already underrepresented. Which doesn't seem like the case in this instance
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,113
@606,103 (B)
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,121
@606,102 (Killer Lettuce?? !!iNo3FkiZx)
The problem is that feminism isn't a single group. There are many types but when one does good then the credit goes to all of them, even the real bad ones. Thus i think it is fair that it goes the other way too.
The problem is that feminism isn't a single group. There are many types but when one does good then the credit goes to all of them, even the real bad ones. Thus i think it is fair that it goes the other way too.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,123
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,124
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,125
@606,121 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, though. Why would you do something that you view as illogical? If you have this perception of the credit being distributed unevenly, then wouldn't the best response to that be to look more closely and try to better distinguish the distinct groups within feminism?
That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, though. Why would you do something that you view as illogical? If you have this perception of the credit being distributed unevenly, then wouldn't the best response to that be to look more closely and try to better distinguish the distinct groups within feminism?
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,127
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,128
Hey op, look what happens when someone doesn't follow the sjw hivemind
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,131
@606,124 (D)
So... Why aren't you a feminist?
@606,125 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Because if bad groups are getting undeserved credit while the deserving don't mind, it will continue. If it goes the other way, they might rethink the flawed way feminism gets credited.
So... Why aren't you a feminist?
@606,125 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Because if bad groups are getting undeserved credit while the deserving don't mind, it will continue. If it goes the other way, they might rethink the flawed way feminism gets credited.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,137
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
So you're saying that by perpetuating the negative stereotype that feminists are crazy and hate men, the more moderate ones will be encouraged to step up more?
That could backfire quite badly, you know.
So you're saying that by perpetuating the negative stereotype that feminists are crazy and hate men, the more moderate ones will be encouraged to step up more?
That could backfire quite badly, you know.
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #606,144
@606,131 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> So... Why aren't you a feminist?
No need to be. Why aren't you gay?
> So... Why aren't you a feminist?
No need to be. Why aren't you gay?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,150
@606,137 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Well if they insist on you to see it as one group by constantly living of others credit, then you have to treat them as one group.
Well if they insist on you to see it as one group by constantly living of others credit, then you have to treat them as one group.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,153
@606,121 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> The problem is that feminism isn't a single group.
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> then you have to treat them as one group.
Why would you engage in thinking that you explicitly label as problematic?
> The problem is that feminism isn't a single group.
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> then you have to treat them as one group.
Why would you engage in thinking that you explicitly label as problematic?
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,154
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,155
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,157
@606,154 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Y'know, taking cheap shots at the disabled is pretty fucking low, regardless of their gender (or yours).
Y'know, taking cheap shots at the disabled is pretty fucking low, regardless of their gender (or yours).
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,158
@606,150 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
I don't think that you can consider it to be one group, but the most vocal is one group.
I don't think that you can consider it to be one group, but the most vocal is one group.
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,160
@606,155 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
So i guess its feminism to dislike feminism lol. See the problem? We are using the same word for many things, but feminists insist you only use it for the good things it has done and that is the source of the problem, because if a movement of different types can all share the glory yet not the shame, then it distorts the reality of all those movements.
@606,157 (D)
I know, its shitty to ignore disabled males.
So i guess its feminism to dislike feminism lol. See the problem? We are using the same word for many things, but feminists insist you only use it for the good things it has done and that is the source of the problem, because if a movement of different types can all share the glory yet not the shame, then it distorts the reality of all those movements.
@606,157 (D)
I know, its shitty to ignore disabled males.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,166
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,168
@606,160 (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
> I know, its shitty to ignore disabled males.
Nobody's advocating that. Why are you making attacks on disabled women but not on disabled men?
> I know, its shitty to ignore disabled males.
Nobody's advocating that. Why are you making attacks on disabled women but not on disabled men?
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 44 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,169
Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,176
@606,168 (D)
Advocating that disabled men get same attention as disabled women, is not attacking disabled women.
Advocating that disabled men get same attention as disabled women, is not attacking disabled women.
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,181
@previous (Denmark guy !jJEom8Ii3E)
Then, why not advocate that all disabled are treated well, regardless of their gender?
Then, why not advocate that all disabled are treated well, regardless of their gender?
Toni !gM.fIrVe1Q joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,243
I am a woman, but not a feminist, nor do I believe that disabled women have it worse than disabled men.
Toni !gM.fIrVe1Q double-posted this 11 years ago, 31 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,244
I suppose I should also disclose that I am disabled.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,245
Toni !gM.fIrVe1Q replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #606,248
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Years ago, my left eye was injured badly enough that it had to be removed. These days, I have a false left eye, known as a "glass eye", that is high-quality and expensive, and looks almost like a real eye.
Years ago, my left eye was injured badly enough that it had to be removed. These days, I have a false left eye, known as a "glass eye", that is high-quality and expensive, and looks almost like a real eye.