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Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago#45,596
Workers at a particular company have won a 7.6% pay increase retroactive for 6 months. If a programmer writes a program that takes an employee's previous annual salary as input, and outputs the amount of retroactive pay due the employee, the new annual salary, and the new monthly salary. What would he have to do first?
I assume he'd had to multiply whatever the user inputs by 7.6 and then the result of that multiplied by 6, right? So he can get the new salary to divide that by 12 for 12 months so he can get the new annual salary?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later[^][v]#601,665
Not doing your homework for you.
Million Moose March joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^][v]#601,668
I also have question for mathemetician. If modren math(s) allow the idea that you can cut something into infinitely many parts, then how many parts do you have if you take just half of it.
Nononymous. joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#601,669
Workers at a particular company have won a 7.6% pay increase retroactive for 6 months. If a programmer writes a program that takes an employee's previous annual salary as input, and outputs the amount of retroactive pay due the employee, the new annual salary, and the new monthly salary. What would he have to do first? >
> I assume he'd had to multiply whatever the user inputs by 7.6 and then the result of that multiplied by 6, right? So he can get the new salary to divide that by 12 for 12 months so he can get the new annual
S=salary
I=increase
S*.076 = I
S+I = Adjusted Salary
(S/2)*.076 = Retroactive Amount Due
Or just use a fucking calculator.
S + 7.62%
Nononymous. double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#601,670
> I also have question for mathemetician. If modren math(s) allow the idea that you can cut something into infinitely many parts, then how many parts do you have if you take just half of it.
1/2 of Infinite = Infinite.
Don't think about it. It has driven people insane - truly insane.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^][v]#601,671
@previous (Nononymous.)
Isn't there supposed to be a fundamental unit of matter in the universe, whether a quark or gluon or vibrating string or whatever? If so, one could not divide that unit into half.
Nononymous. replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#601,675
> Isn't there supposed to be a fundamental unit of matter in the universe, whether a quark or gluon or vibrating string or whatever? If so, one could not divide that unit into half.
I was pretty clear that you should not think about it. Infinite is a concept. Trying to conflate that with particles is silly. What presumption makes you think that they're infinite or infinitely divisible?
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#601,676
@previous (Nononymous.)
I just thought that current theory held the vibrating string to be the smallest possible element of matter. I do not know why that is the case. I just thought that it was accepted.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#601,680
> I just thought that current theory held the vibrating string to be the smallest possible element of matter. I do not know why that is the case. I just thought that it was accepted.
You will not have infinity in a finite realm. Nothing, not even atoms in the universe, is infinite. Nothing, no matter what, can be divided infinitely EXCEPT concepts - you can infinitely divide or multiply numbers and numbers alone. There is no representation of infinity in any working physics models that are commonly held beliefs though some freaks believe in multiple universes but they're idiots.
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Million Moose March replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#601,715
@601,670 (Nononymous.)
so like, if I have half of the pieces, then I have all of the pieces?
Nononymous. replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,718
> so like, if I have half of the pieces, then I have all of the pieces?
You can have infinite and still not have all. Half of infinite is still half of infinite and less than the whole - there is no whole. Really, do not think about this. It has (consult with Dr. Google as I'm unable to remember his name at the moment) driven mathematicians batshit crazy - as in truly crazy and ending in suicide after extended stays in a mental hospital. If you read down through the other posts that I've made then you may see that I've tried to make it a little clearer.
The concept of infinity is, well, just something that is conceptual. There is no infinity (that we know of). So if you have half of something that is infinite you not only have an infinite amount but you also have a sum total that is less than the assumed infinite. Concepts, such as a portion of infinity, simply do not work. The only reason I've even an inkling of knowledge on the subject is due to probabilities and my thesis' research. The thread, specifically, asked for a mathematician (I prefer mathemagician) and I just happened to have stopped by and this is my initial visit to the site.
Again, really, do not try to think about it. Not only is it of no value in the real world there is nothing good that can come from this line of thinking. The concept of infinity, and especially infinitely divisible parts, is harrowing to the best of minds (of which I am not one). Think of it as a conceptual that has no basis in reality - perhaps like a deity. It is akin to asking this question: "If God is omnipotent then can he, himself, create a hot sauce that is too hot for him to eat?" Not all questions have a valid answer. This one is easier to nip in the bud - there's no such thing as infinity. Physics prevents it, at least with current *accepted* models.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,721
> well in calculus, we try to find a whole by imagining that it is made out of infinitely many itty bitty bits > > maybe we should stop that
Yes, yes you should. The concept of infinity only really (barely) works in mathematics and doesn't relate to reality. There are not even infinite atoms in the universe and there's no knife small enough to infinitely divide anything. The concept has driven mathematicians mad. It's best to not think about it. Nothing good can come from it. Well, smoke some weed or drop some acid and then think about it. Then, at least, it will entertain you. There are some concepts that are better left unsaid.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,739
@601,733 (Nononymous !gthdHv4g0s)
That's not how it works. You should start with a four letter search term or something, to get some initial success. It brute forces random shit until the output matches what you want.
idk, it's been a while since I bothered but case sensitive four letter words appearing at the start of the trip are obtainable and easily readable and a good place to start.
@previous (Nononymous !gthdHv4g0s)
Get an #1NfiN1Ty trip, or gtfo nigger
Nononymous !gthdHv4g0s replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,743
> That's not how it works. You should start with a four letter search term or something, to get some initial success. It brute forces random shit until the output matches what you want. > > idk, it's been a while since I bothered but case sensitive four letter words appearing at the start of the trip are obtainable and easily readable and a good place to start. > > > Get an #1NfiN1Ty trip, or gtfo nigger
Infinity is nice. I'll see what it comes up with. I tried with "Maine" and it had a shitton of results. I expect the longer word will be more troublesome to brute force. Then, it seems, I must check it here to see if it is valid. Yay...
shut the fuck up !STFUh5fxbc replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,744
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,745
@601,738 (Nononymous !gthdHv4g0s)
If space is not infinite, then what happens when you reach the the end of it? Is there a brick wall preventing further progress?
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,748
@previous (H)
It's not called the infinity brick wall, it's called an infinity pool. You should look it up.
Nononymous !gthdHv4g0s replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,749
> If space is not infinite, then what happens when you reach the the end of it? Is there a brick wall preventing further progress?
Space, the universe, expands in all directions at the speed of light. You can not exceed that speed so you will never reach the end. Eventually entropy will stop both you and the expansion and we're not entirely sure what will happen then. Both you and the expansion will cease and you will not reach the end. Even this is not infinite, it's just not something you can reach. It is finite because of entropy. Heat death is the eventual outcome. There's nothing you can do about it.
Triptych joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,781
i'm taking calculus 3 and hate myself for it
Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#601,799
@601,748 (G)
Completely irrelevant to this discussion.
@601,749 (Nononymous !gthdHv4g0s)
You are discounting the effects of dark energy. However, as a thought experiment, if we could somehow reach the boundary of finite space, what would it look like?
Million Moose March replied with this 11 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#602,403
I thought this was funny: How Satan counts: {}, {{}}, {{}, {{}}}, …
You see, it's from set theory. {} is the empty set, and the enumeration of its elements is zero. {{}} is the set containing just the empty set, and the enumeration of the elements is one. {{}, {{}}} is the set containing the first two sets thus far, and the enumeration of the elements is two. And so on. But only the Lord can create infinity from nothing, so therefore set theory is an abomination and satanic.