Topic: Oh Germany
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #45,329
Where were you during 9/11Where were you when Obama got elected
Where were you when the Arab spring kicked off
Where were you when Germany killed itself?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #598,511
I don't understand the xenophobic rage over immigrants
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #598,512
@previous (B)Because they are Muslims and Muslims form their own communities, do not intergrate and create trouble for the native population. The most dangrous city in France has a Muslim population of 40%, they just create ghettos...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/214086/french-city-40-muslim-population-most-dangerous-daniel-greenfield
Muslims will just bring religious violence and force changes in law and culture to please them.
Germany is FUCKED
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #598,513
Germans are queuing up to welcome them and cheer them on. Oh boy, they are going to regret thiskook !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #598,516
@598,512 (A)
They also commit most of the sex crimes in France and I think Sweden. They seem to favor gang rapes for some reason.
They also commit most of the sex crimes in France and I think Sweden. They seem to favor gang rapes for some reason.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #598,518
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)They believe women should be kept hidden away and out of site, even the most mild Muslims and any girl who isn't covered up is a slut and seen as low. Take all the rape cases in the UK. The Germans and their gov are bringing rape to their own people and cheering it on.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #598,519
@previous (A)
Because we're all supposed to ignore race specific crimes and embrace diversity, unless you're Israel, then you trick your refugees into being sterilized.
Because we're all supposed to ignore race specific crimes and embrace diversity, unless you're Israel, then you trick your refugees into being sterilized.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #598,521
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #598,527
@598,519 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
We now have a PC culture where we must ignore race specific crimes because race is a social construct and/or we are not allowd to criticize a minority group. The villin here, as always is white people or more specifically white males - The one group that causes the lowest amount of crime, pays the most tax and is less of a drain on social services like health care. Ironiclly, if all the whites decided to move from central Europe to the UK or eastern Europe these countries opening their borders (Sweden and Germany) would collapse
We now have a PC culture where we must ignore race specific crimes because race is a social construct and/or we are not allowd to criticize a minority group. The villin here, as always is white people or more specifically white males - The one group that causes the lowest amount of crime, pays the most tax and is less of a drain on social services like health care. Ironiclly, if all the whites decided to move from central Europe to the UK or eastern Europe these countries opening their borders (Sweden and Germany) would collapse
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,528
rip europe
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,530
@598,527 (A)
This statement is a hate crime, so prepare yourself for two months in jail, a hefty fine, and a mandatory public apology. Thanks
This statement is a hate crime, so prepare yourself for two months in jail, a hefty fine, and a mandatory public apology. Thanks
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 56 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,539
@598,521 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
> Isn't it weird that Germany is more willing to take in immigrants than Israel?
Israel has taken in over one million Russian immigrants. Do you really expect them to take in Muslims who demand the death of jews?
> Isn't it weird that Germany is more willing to take in immigrants than Israel?
Israel has taken in over one million Russian immigrants. Do you really expect them to take in Muslims who demand the death of jews?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 26 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,545
Surprisingly, I actually share Svet's concern over excessive immigration, and the extra concern over Muslims who are serious about their religion.
I'm slightly concerned about agreeing with him, but there it is. Stopped clock, I suppose.
@598,519 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Yes, you shouldn't think of crime in terms of race. Then you fall into this pesky thing called racism, if that's of any concern to you.
I just look at criminals as criminals. "Racial culture" might be a factor in making them criminals, but it's narrow-minded to act like that's the only thing.
I'm slightly concerned about agreeing with him, but there it is. Stopped clock, I suppose.
@598,519 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Yes, you shouldn't think of crime in terms of race. Then you fall into this pesky thing called racism, if that's of any concern to you.
I just look at criminals as criminals. "Racial culture" might be a factor in making them criminals, but it's narrow-minded to act like that's the only thing.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,547
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Yes, you shouldn't think of crime in terms of race. Then you fall into this pesky thing called racism, if that's of any concern to you.
Then you can never get to the root of the problem. If one migrating culture is incompatible with the native culture you're going to have serious issues.
> Yes, you shouldn't think of crime in terms of race. Then you fall into this pesky thing called racism, if that's of any concern to you.
Then you can never get to the root of the problem. If one migrating culture is incompatible with the native culture you're going to have serious issues.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,553
@previous (A)
It's not just that they're a particular culture, though. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that majority of Muslims/blacks/whatever aren't troublesome criminals. Blaming it on just culture is looking at it too narrowly.
Rather, I think it's more the fact that they're usually in an economically deprived group (as immigrants often are) who are socially apart from greater society (again, as most immigrants are). That situation would produce a sizeable crop of criminals in any sort of group, really.
And that's not even going into individual factors like upbringing, peer groups or personal belief. A lot goes into making a criminal, you know.
It's not just that they're a particular culture, though. I don't think I'm wrong in saying that majority of Muslims/blacks/whatever aren't troublesome criminals. Blaming it on just culture is looking at it too narrowly.
Rather, I think it's more the fact that they're usually in an economically deprived group (as immigrants often are) who are socially apart from greater society (again, as most immigrants are). That situation would produce a sizeable crop of criminals in any sort of group, really.
And that's not even going into individual factors like upbringing, peer groups or personal belief. A lot goes into making a criminal, you know.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,562
@598,545 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I don't care about being seen as racist. I also look at crimes in terms of age, sex, and class, and that's okay.
I don't care about being seen as racist. I also look at crimes in terms of age, sex, and class, and that's okay.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,563
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Looking at them in terms of all of those things at once is a bit better than just looking at race. But there are other important factors too, like upbringing and environment. A criminal isn't just a product of the demographics they're in. A more holistic view sees better, IMO.
Looking at them in terms of all of those things at once is a bit better than just looking at race. But there are other important factors too, like upbringing and environment. A criminal isn't just a product of the demographics they're in. A more holistic view sees better, IMO.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,567
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
They are not criminals in their minds when it's a cultural based crime. They really believe that girls who don't cover up are sluts which is bascly all non muslims.
You know this huge wave of Syrians coming through Europe? They are on the side of Isis. Just as Russia has entered the war on the side of Syria these are the Is supporters who have thought "fuck this, not fighting against Russia"
They are not criminals in their minds when it's a cultural based crime. They really believe that girls who don't cover up are sluts which is bascly all non muslims.
You know this huge wave of Syrians coming through Europe? They are on the side of Isis. Just as Russia has entered the war on the side of Syria these are the Is supporters who have thought "fuck this, not fighting against Russia"
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,568
Why can't we just give some land to those refugees and fund the construction of a new city where the refugees are given jobs? Going to be cheaper then the cost of intergrating them into society since the demand of housing they will create is just going to put housing prices through the roof.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,569
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,571
@previous (A)
Not true man. Its so contradicting what you say, it does not only contradict the islamic fundamentalists who think the west will be the end of islam, but a lot more. There is no way that those refugee children are going to not be DESTROYED if they do not integrate into society. When they are away from their parents, they will be in public school. In public school they will face the neglected working class and the neglected class is not going to accept any other classes.
Not true man. Its so contradicting what you say, it does not only contradict the islamic fundamentalists who think the west will be the end of islam, but a lot more. There is no way that those refugee children are going to not be DESTROYED if they do not integrate into society. When they are away from their parents, they will be in public school. In public school they will face the neglected working class and the neglected class is not going to accept any other classes.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,572
@previous (G)
Most people running off to join IS are 3rd and 4th generation immigrents. They don't intergrate, they sticked to their communities and hate the native culture around them
Most people running off to join IS are 3rd and 4th generation immigrents. They don't intergrate, they sticked to their communities and hate the native culture around them
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,574
@previous (A)
Stick to their communities? What community? The community that is self defeating and claims western culture will destroy islam?
The ones who join Islam is not an example of immigrants not integrating, its an example of them integrating in a culture that shames integrating. Joining ISIS is like a desperate attempt to please their brainwashed mind done by their parents as means to fight the part of themselves that is integrated.
Granted, they won't all be integrated at first but the next generation before it and the generation before that will be virtually the same as us. This whole panic over islamic integration is stupid because we (the non islamic people) have all the cards when they enter into our domain and our culture. So i really fail to see how the typical nazi sees them as a threat rather then new recruits.
Stick to their communities? What community? The community that is self defeating and claims western culture will destroy islam?
The ones who join Islam is not an example of immigrants not integrating, its an example of them integrating in a culture that shames integrating. Joining ISIS is like a desperate attempt to please their brainwashed mind done by their parents as means to fight the part of themselves that is integrated.
Granted, they won't all be integrated at first but the next generation before it and the generation before that will be virtually the same as us. This whole panic over islamic integration is stupid because we (the non islamic people) have all the cards when they enter into our domain and our culture. So i really fail to see how the typical nazi sees them as a threat rather then new recruits.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 38 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,575
It's America's fault for destabilizing the entire Middle East with needless wars of choice and a shitty policy of slavish devotion to some Middle East countries and irrational hatred of others. Yurop, I'm sorry :(
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,576
@598,569 (A)
Actually, what can often happen is that the offspring integrate more into the native culture. That's why there are things like Muslims becoming atheists, or drunken chavs.
I do think it's a two-way thing, rather than just them coming over here and staying holed-up in their own community. British society exerts influence on them too.
@598,567 (A)
Well, I think that them being immoral enough to rape is more to the point than the fact that they're Muslims. I am going to go out on a limb here, and guess that the average Muslim man doesn't decide to start raping when confronted with a woman who hasn't draped a sheet over her whole body.
Actually, what can often happen is that the offspring integrate more into the native culture. That's why there are things like Muslims becoming atheists, or drunken chavs.
I do think it's a two-way thing, rather than just them coming over here and staying holed-up in their own community. British society exerts influence on them too.
@598,567 (A)
Well, I think that them being immoral enough to rape is more to the point than the fact that they're Muslims. I am going to go out on a limb here, and guess that the average Muslim man doesn't decide to start raping when confronted with a woman who hasn't draped a sheet over her whole body.
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Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,577
@598,575 (Metæ)
A reminder. Rome then later Brits and France fucked up Mid East. Then later George Bush/Dick Cheney.
A reminder. Rome then later Brits and France fucked up Mid East. Then later George Bush/Dick Cheney.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 27 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,584
@598,574 (G)
You have no idea what you're talking about. You live in a white Cornish town and your ideas are all made up in your head.
You have no idea what you're talking about. You live in a white Cornish town and your ideas are all made up in your head.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,586
I'm really convinced that Svet is as successful and wealthy as he claims. Shitposting and trying really hard to troll Minichan is known to have a positive correlation with success.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,587
@598,584 (A)
@previous (B)
Svet is a Brit. Brits fucked up the middle east. Only fair that Muslims get some pay back.
@previous (B)
Svet is a Brit. Brits fucked up the middle east. Only fair that Muslims get some pay back.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 2 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,588
@598,584 (A)
Touche. I do live in a very very white place. I still have experience with muslims, i grew up with one and he wasn't at all different or at least not so much. I just want to make certain people reconsider their paranoia. Like this thread talks about the end of germany, what would equally paranoid muslims in the middle east talk about? They would talk about the end of islam or at least a great defeat against islam.
I am not saying that the refugee flood will be easy as i know it will effect the lower classes the much (it can be said that the lower classes are the most charitable) but i am saying that besides this being a crisis that will be bad for all of us, there isn't much more to it.
Touche. I do live in a very very white place. I still have experience with muslims, i grew up with one and he wasn't at all different or at least not so much. I just want to make certain people reconsider their paranoia. Like this thread talks about the end of germany, what would equally paranoid muslims in the middle east talk about? They would talk about the end of islam or at least a great defeat against islam.
I am not saying that the refugee flood will be easy as i know it will effect the lower classes the much (it can be said that the lower classes are the most charitable) but i am saying that besides this being a crisis that will be bad for all of us, there isn't much more to it.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,591
Anonymous B double-posted this 11 years ago, 50 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,592
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,596
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,601
i wonder how many of those are actually isis members
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,603
@previous (J)
Very few but they were happy to support IS. They just got the fuck out of town once Russia got into action
Very few but they were happy to support IS. They just got the fuck out of town once Russia got into action
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,606
@598,518 (A)
> They believe women should be kept hidden away and out of site, even the most mild Muslims and any girl who isn't covered up is a slut and seen as low. Take all the rape cases in the UK. The Germans and their gov are bringing rape to their own people and cheering it on.
lol ukraine is still at war idiot
> They believe women should be kept hidden away and out of site, even the most mild Muslims and any girl who isn't covered up is a slut and seen as low. Take all the rape cases in the UK. The Germans and their gov are bringing rape to their own people and cheering it on.
lol ukraine is still at war idiot
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,608
@598,588 (G)When Muslims are a tiny minority they seem like the nicest people on the earth. Once they get into a large enough group to form their own communities (5% of the population) they cause havok. You'll see, histroy will (sadly) prove me right. I'm not against immigration toally but Islam is not fit for Europe. It will lead to huge religious and civil unrest that made Northern Ireland look like a picnic
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,610
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 34 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,611
@598,603 (A)
> Very few but they were happy to support IS
You forget many from Syria were bombed and gassed by Bashar al-Assad. To the point there was no food or medicine and no hope. Then ISIS and most Syrians are now caught up between Bashar al-Assad, Russia and ISIS.
> Very few but they were happy to support IS
You forget many from Syria were bombed and gassed by Bashar al-Assad. To the point there was no food or medicine and no hope. Then ISIS and most Syrians are now caught up between Bashar al-Assad, Russia and ISIS.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,613
@598,584 (A)We were actually having a decent conversation, but I can see you're not interested in one of those. You clown.
I even agreed with your main point, but apparently that's not good enough because I don't dislike immigrants quite enough.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,616
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I think Svet expects UK to turn Nazi on immigrants. Put them in concentration camps and gas them. That is the only way Svet is going to be happy.
I think Svet expects UK to turn Nazi on immigrants. Put them in concentration camps and gas them. That is the only way Svet is going to be happy.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,617
@598,613 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I'm not trying to win your approval nor am i being condersending towards you. I don't care who you like or dislike.
You just watch how Germany decends into chaos over the next decade. They may have imported cheap labour but its going to be hell on earth with mass ssegregation
I'm not trying to win your approval nor am i being condersending towards you. I don't care who you like or dislike.
You just watch how Germany decends into chaos over the next decade. They may have imported cheap labour but its going to be hell on earth with mass ssegregation
Anonymous L double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,618
@598,616 (K)
I'm ok with eastern European migrents if we need them. I'm not ok with all these African economic migrants and "refugees" I also ok with Asian migrents aslong as they are not Muslims.
I'm ok with eastern European migrents if we need them. I'm not ok with all these African economic migrants and "refugees" I also ok with Asian migrents aslong as they are not Muslims.
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Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 2 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,619
@598,608 (A)
A population from a war torn world will be less moral then the ones from a peaceful world, its true. Many of them will have grown up in a society where the only thing that kept you safe was respect, so when you disrespect them in any way- some will be violent or overact. This will change after a few generations and sure, the lower classes will be the people next to these refugees and they should be compensated for social peace. The rich should be taxed more and more money/thought should go into the lower classes.
I know its a shitty situation but what alternatives do we face? If we just close them off or let them drown, how do you think it will effect us? Once such a solution is acceptable, then who is next?
A population from a war torn world will be less moral then the ones from a peaceful world, its true. Many of them will have grown up in a society where the only thing that kept you safe was respect, so when you disrespect them in any way- some will be violent or overact. This will change after a few generations and sure, the lower classes will be the people next to these refugees and they should be compensated for social peace. The rich should be taxed more and more money/thought should go into the lower classes.
I know its a shitty situation but what alternatives do we face? If we just close them off or let them drown, how do you think it will effect us? Once such a solution is acceptable, then who is next?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,626
@598,617 (L)
Dropping your usual line of "lol your opinion is invalid because you live in Cornwall" is incredibly condersending, you dense bugger.
> You just watch how Germany decends into chaos over the next decade.
I am going to go out on a second limb and guess that this line of thinking has been present in fellows like yourself for quite some time, towards many countries.
Germany isn't going to inevitably collapse "because immigrants".
Dropping your usual line of "lol your opinion is invalid because you live in Cornwall" is incredibly condersending, you dense bugger.
> You just watch how Germany decends into chaos over the next decade.
I am going to go out on a second limb and guess that this line of thinking has been present in fellows like yourself for quite some time, towards many countries.
Germany isn't going to inevitably collapse "because immigrants".
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,629
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,634
I believe we should play Utmeskiten.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,636
@598,626 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
You got to remember though that maybe he is in a position where a influx of refugees may threaten his very lively hood. I mean, there is a reason why the lower classes are most likely to be against immigrants and its for a good reason.
You got to remember though that maybe he is in a position where a influx of refugees may threaten his very lively hood. I mean, there is a reason why the lower classes are most likely to be against immigrants and its for a good reason.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,638
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,641
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Maybe rich white republicans are the only ones who genuinely appeal (not always) to the lower classes while democrats play the populist game and appeal to middle class families with their feminism and gay rights.
Maybe rich white republicans are the only ones who genuinely appeal (not always) to the lower classes while democrats play the populist game and appeal to middle class families with their feminism and gay rights.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,649
@598,636 (G)
No, he's fine on that front. As I understand, Svet tours Europe, bringing lighting to people all acorss the land. Sometimes he sees that a country has let immigrants in, and tuts disappointedly at their foolishness.
No, he's fine on that front. As I understand, Svet tours Europe, bringing lighting to people all acorss the land. Sometimes he sees that a country has let immigrants in, and tuts disappointedly at their foolishness.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #598,652
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
So he is living freely yet against the idea of living freely?
So he is living freely yet against the idea of living freely?