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Topic: I figured out what was wrong.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 11 years ago #45,240

I ran a troubleshooter Microsoft has for the reason of why the Win10 icon wasn't in the sys trap.

Turns out that I was missing an update which I can apparently download now.

But now I am confused on rather or not I should get the x64 version or not when my system type says that it's a 32-bit operating system with a x64 based processor.

This is for a tablet btw.

Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #597,086

thanks for the update

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #597,089

please keep us updated

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #597,092

If I update this OS, it won't erase my Android, would it?

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #597,093

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
not sure

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #597,094

@597,092 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Only one way to find out. Just go ahead and take one for the team.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #597,096

@previous (D)
I do not want to lose Android though.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #597,098

I'm having a hard time refraining from laughing my balls off.

brie !uXWPG0MygI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #597,100

@597,096 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
You could use bluestacks on Win10. If you don't want to lose Android.

(Edited 12 seconds later.)

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #597,117

@previous (brie !uXWPG0MygI)
So I will lose Android?

(Edited 1 minute later.)

dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #597,118

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Why would you lose Android? It's on another partition

brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #597,122

@597,117 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
I don't think so.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #597,221

@597,118 (dw)
I didn't know you could multiOS tablets

brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #597,224

@OP
You want the x64 version, since your tablet supports it and I believe your use-case doesn't require a 32-bit OS.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 36 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #597,225

@previous (brie !uXWPG0MygI)
Question: Does a 64 bit update take up more hard drive space?

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #597,246

@597,221 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
It's this weird chinese tablet, it has Windows x86 with some weird android port installed on the second partition
http://www.banggood.com/PIPO-W4S-Intel-Z3735F-Quad-Core-8-Inch-64GB-Dual-Boot-Tablet-p-973176.html

brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 34 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #597,257

@597,225 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
It's twice the bits.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #597,355

@OP
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/32-bit-and-64-bit-windows#1TC=windows-7

If you start your computer using a 64-bit Windows 7 installation disc or files, but your computer isn't capable of running a 64-bit version of Windows, you'll see a Windows Boot Manager error. You'll need to use a 32-bit Windows 7 installation disc or files instead.


And YES 64 Bit OS uses more hard drive - Real issue is the 64-bit will use a LOT more of your RAM. And if you only have 4GB of RAM you will end up with a slower machine.

Cathy what I do not get is - If you are running Android why do you want Win 10? How much do you really use the Win OS? Just because the upgrade is free is not really a good reason to download it.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 15 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #597,864

@previous (I)
My tablet has Windows 8.1 and Android 4.4. Windows 7 are my desktops.

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 12 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,078

@597,355 (I)

> Just because the upgrade is free is not really a good reason to download it.

No but it being in every aspect superior to Win8 is

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,080

@previous (dw)
at least windows 8 does not put adverts onto your desktop thanks

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,081

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
are you referring to the get office things? those are just 3 apps you can easily uninstall

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,084

@previous (dw)
i still find it unsettling that its there by default

you have to opt out of having advertisers invade your very desktop. the implicit assumption is that you want it.

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,098

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
android has the same thing

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,102

@previous (dw)
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take from this comment. I think you said it to try to demonstrate that this practice is somewhat normal and not a big deal, yet that just makes me more uneasy about it. I don't want that sort of thing to become normal. The advertisers are getting too damn close.

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,112

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
i am saying that simply the opt-out advertising stuff doesn't seem like a good reason to not upgrade to win10, especially if you have an android phone which does the same thing.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,113

@previous (dw)
I don't have an Android phone currently. I had until just recently, but I guess it was older because it didn't do that.

I understand I might be a bit "odd" for being this bothered by it, but I'm quite uncomfortable with big corporations and advertisers pushing advertisements that far into people's lives. I'm uncomfortable with it becoming normal for advertisers to discreetly collect data about you computer or phone usage and then give you targeted ads right in the personal space of the desktop or home screen.

But honestly, that's not the whole reason I'm not upgrading. The main reason is probably that I am comfortable with Windows 7 and a bit lazy about this sort of stuff. The desktop advertisements and data spying just nudge that into outright rejection of upgrading.

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,124

Externally hosted image@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)

> I don't have an Android phone currently. I had until just recently, but I guess it was older because it didn't do that.
>
> I understand I might be a bit "odd" for being this bothered by it, but I'm quite uncomfortable with big corporations and advertisers pushing advertisements that far into people's lives.

I agree.

> I'm uncomfortable with it becoming normal for advertisers to discreetly collect data about you computer or phone usage and then give you targeted ads right in the personal space of the desktop or home screen.

That's not what happens. In the case of Win 10, there are a few apps pre-installed which may or may not be sponsored. I think Twitter, Flipboard, Candy Crush, Groove Music and maybe some others. Then there is an app titled Get Office which just links to a page where you can purhcase Office. The advertising ID in Windows is just for apps. It's essentially the same as the advertising ID in Google products.

Most of the 'spying' stuff seems to be in Cortana which is opt-in. It's the same kinda info they use for Google Now. And there is a setting which I think is on by default which 'sends Microsoft info about how you write to help them improve typing in the future' which I have no idea what it does.

Oh and it does sync desktop settings and things like it does in 8 if you connect a MS account which it really wants you to.

You might wanna read this https://fix10.isleaked.com/

dw double-posted this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,125

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Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,129

Windows 10 has advertisements on your desktop? :o

@598,084 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> the implicit assumption is that you want it
I like adverts. They keep me in the present.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,141

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
> I like adverts

Confirmed for plebian.

brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #598,144

@598,129 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
There are 'tiles' or something displayed in the start menu that link to their apps store page on the Microsoft App Store

Basic things which you might want to use your computer for but not know there's an App Store app for

(Edited 55 seconds later.)

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #598,211

@previous (brie !uXWPG0MygI)
I use this thing called the internet to search for programs to do the things that I want to do.

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #598,213

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
are you a wizard?

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #598,214

@previous (L)

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #598,215

@598,141 (K)
I don't understand your reasoning here.
Don't most plebeians hate advertisements?

Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #598,233

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
You're a boring person whom enjoys boring things and then writes boring posts about your boring life
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