Topic: Seriously, why do people even care about transgender individuals so much?
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #45,078
The "autism" in this thread is incredible.
Is everyone on any chan website so sad that they have to fucking obsession about other people's lives?
It doesn't have to be transgender people, it could be any other group like Jews or Muslims or Blacks.
What. The. Serious. Fuck?
Thread in Question: http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/60387931/
In b4 "Tranny!" comment.
Is everyone on any chan website so sad that they have to fucking obsession about other people's lives?
It doesn't have to be transgender people, it could be any other group like Jews or Muslims or Blacks.
What. The. Serious. Fuck?
Thread in Question: http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/60387931/
In b4 "Tranny!" comment.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #595,303
I don't know, why are you a tranny?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,304
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,305
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,306
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 45 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,307
@previous (A)
By slicing into your body instead of therapy/ignoring your "problems" like the rest of the world.
By slicing into your body instead of therapy/ignoring your "problems" like the rest of the world.
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,308
But you're worrying about the people in that thread
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 59 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,310
@595,307 (B)
You do realize that people dealing with gender dysphoria are required to seek therapy before they undergo transitioning. Many of them do not.
> Ignoring your "problems" like the rest of the world.
It appears to me like you're repressing some emotional trauma when you type things like this.
You do realize that people dealing with gender dysphoria are required to seek therapy before they undergo transitioning. Many of them do not.
> Ignoring your "problems" like the rest of the world.
It appears to me like you're repressing some emotional trauma when you type things like this.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 41 seconds later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,311
@previous (A)
nah, all im saying is most people dont decide the solution to their problems is to cut off their genitals
nah, all im saying is most people dont decide the solution to their problems is to cut off their genitals
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,313
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,314
Okay they are talking about Bruce Jenner and he has made his life a spectacle in the public eye.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,315
@595,313 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I once linked to like three studies showing that it increased happiness in the people who had it.
Those suicide rates are likely in large part due to transphobic assholes not letting up.
I once linked to like three studies showing that it increased happiness in the people who had it.
Those suicide rates are likely in large part due to transphobic assholes not letting up.
dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 25 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,316
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 20 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,317
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 49 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,318
kook !!Phkn/3Gic triple-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,319
Op do #blacklives matter?
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 3 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,320
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 31 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,321
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,322
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 31 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,323
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,324
@595,311 (B)
Of course, most people don't decide the solution is sexual reassignment surgery, they don't deal with the things that would lead to that.
Seriously? Can that be any more obvious?
@595,313 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Most likely caused by environmental causes not physical ones.
Of course, most people don't decide the solution is sexual reassignment surgery, they don't deal with the things that would lead to that.
Seriously? Can that be any more obvious?
@595,313 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Most likely caused by environmental causes not physical ones.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 second later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,325
@595,321 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Trannsexualism is caused by proven, observed differences in biology, where people have differences that make them identify as the opposite gender. Are you now claiming that otherkin have biological differences in them that make them identify as animals? That they might have a hypothetical "I identify as a human" part of the brain swapped to "I identify as a wolf"?
I am at work right now, so I can't dedicate this the full attention it deserves. I'll come back later.
Trannsexualism is caused by proven, observed differences in biology, where people have differences that make them identify as the opposite gender. Are you now claiming that otherkin have biological differences in them that make them identify as animals? That they might have a hypothetical "I identify as a human" part of the brain swapped to "I identify as a wolf"?
I am at work right now, so I can't dedicate this the full attention it deserves. I'll come back later.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,326
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 42 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,327
@595,319 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Are you seriously asking this question? #alllivesmatter
Does this mean there isn't or will cease to be a hierarchy? Absolutely not, unless we somehow could replicate food from machines.
Are you seriously asking this question? #alllivesmatter
Does this mean there isn't or will cease to be a hierarchy? Absolutely not, unless we somehow could replicate food from machines.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 35 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,328
@595,325 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Otherkin might be another example of body dismorphic disorder. We don't know yet.
Otherkin might be another example of body dismorphic disorder. We don't know yet.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 32 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,329
@595,327 (A)
So are you saying that people should not care what black people do?
Food machines? God damnit
So are you saying that people should not care what black people do?
Food machines? God damnit
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,330
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 57 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,331
This person is a celebrity who has made their "transition" into a spectacle but people shouldn't discuss it?
That's how he's getting his paychecks
That's how he's getting his paychecks
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 21 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,332
kook !!Phkn/3Gic triple-posted this 11 years ago, 21 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,333
Why can't we talk about celebrities?
kook !!Phkn/3Gic quadruple-posted this 11 years ago, 49 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,334
Are you just mad that they're calling her ugly?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 13 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,335
@595,332 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
What kind of proof can bypass your bias?
Let's not beat around the bush here.
What kind of proof can bypass your bias?
Let's not beat around the bush here.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 41 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,336
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,337
Which people are off limits in regards to celebrity gossip?
kook !!Phkn/3Gic triple-posted this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,340
Bruce Jenner makes money from people talking about him and watching his shows. You're literally taking food out of the mouths of his children!
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,343
Halloween should be grate this year.hater !JGlOo5d1iU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,345
@595,314 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
His life was already a spectacle. He isn't doing anything post transition that he wasn't doing pre-transition.
Except killing people. I don't think he did that before.
His life was already a spectacle. He isn't doing anything post transition that he wasn't doing pre-transition.
Except killing people. I don't think he did that before.
hater !JGlOo5d1iU double-posted this 11 years ago, 40 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,347
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,351
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,352
kook !!Phkn/3Gic triple-posted this 11 years ago, 19 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #595,353
kook !!Phkn/3Gic quadruple-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,354
Op why should transwoman (not transmen because you don't care about them) get special treatment?
Would you have made this thread if they were calling Kris Jenner ugly instead?
Would you have made this thread if they were calling Kris Jenner ugly instead?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,358
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
> Would you have made this thread if they were calling Kris Jenner ugly instead?
Probably if the overall tone was identical.
> Would you have made this thread if they were calling Kris Jenner ugly instead?
Probably if the overall tone was identical.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,360
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,363
@595,352 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
You can. I didn't say otherwise.
@595,353 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
> Are they very pretty?
Look them up.
You can. I didn't say otherwise.
@595,353 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
> Are they very pretty?
Look them up.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,365
@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
I sometimes have a hard time telling if someone is exceptionally pretty, or just young and lithe.
I sometimes have a hard time telling if someone is exceptionally pretty, or just young and lithe.
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,366
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,368
@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
I do know that they have lovely heads of hair. Is Kris Jenner part Serbian or something like that?
I do know that they have lovely heads of hair. Is Kris Jenner part Serbian or something like that?
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,369
Op why do you hate trans celebrities?
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,375
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,376
Op you should remake this thread on tumblr so you'll receive the mindless asspats that you so desperately crave.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,377
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,389
because they shove their shit down our throats
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lambchop !LbCyZQ/7Zo joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #595,392
@OP
The reason, though, is because people hate and fear anything that is different. Just like they did with homosexuals, just like they're doing with pedosexuals, just like they did with witches. People are stupid.
We really shouldn't care what anyone else does unless its harming someone else, or in some cases if its harming that person.
Criticizing transpeople and insulting them won't make them not feel how they feel. Therapy was found to be ineffective. I don't personally understand why it bothers people, but it does. I assume for the same reason anything different bothers people. its our monkey brains warning us because we don't understand and survival is a shoot first ask questions later type deal.
The reason, though, is because people hate and fear anything that is different. Just like they did with homosexuals, just like they're doing with pedosexuals, just like they did with witches. People are stupid.
We really shouldn't care what anyone else does unless its harming someone else, or in some cases if its harming that person.
Criticizing transpeople and insulting them won't make them not feel how they feel. Therapy was found to be ineffective. I don't personally understand why it bothers people, but it does. I assume for the same reason anything different bothers people. its our monkey brains warning us because we don't understand and survival is a shoot first ask questions later type deal.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,399
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,401
@595,392 (lambchop !LbCyZQ/7Zo)
Therapy is to ensure they want to go through with it. It's not to be still a fear of God into them.
Therapy is to ensure they want to go through with it. It's not to be still a fear of God into them.
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,403
@previous (A)
Social justice warriors like yourself pity these creatures so much, that you can't make fun of them.
Social justice warriors like yourself pity these creatures so much, that you can't make fun of them.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,404
beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,406
@595,327 (A)
"All lives matter" is a bizarre and ignorant reply. There is a specific problem with black lives being devalued, blacks being profiled and shot by police. There is also a serious problem with black on black violence being underreported. Of course other lives matter; if cops were killing them en masse, we'd probably be talking about that too.
Try not to be retarded and bigoted in the midst of your moderately coherent attempt to defend another group.
"All lives matter" is a bizarre and ignorant reply. There is a specific problem with black lives being devalued, blacks being profiled and shot by police. There is also a serious problem with black on black violence being underreported. Of course other lives matter; if cops were killing them en masse, we'd probably be talking about that too.
Try not to be retarded and bigoted in the midst of your moderately coherent attempt to defend another group.
beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,407
@595,392 (lambchop !LbCyZQ/7Zo)
Not going to take the pedo bait except to remind you that suicide is a permanent solution to all of your personal problems.
Not going to take the pedo bait except to remind you that suicide is a permanent solution to all of your personal problems.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,408
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,410
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 44 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,411
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,412
Did you read the article that they're discussing?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3213331/Caitlyn-Jenner-admits-likes-idea-finding-guy-treat-like-real-woman-offends-pal-choice-words.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3213331/Caitlyn-Jenner-admits-likes-idea-finding-guy-treat-like-real-woman-offends-pal-choice-words.html
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 37 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,416
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,419
@previous (A)
Of course you dont. Because trans women can do no wrong, for they are the most oppressed of them all.
Of course you dont. Because trans women can do no wrong, for they are the most oppressed of them all.
lambchop !LbCyZQ/7Zo replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,459
@595,399 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Oh, yea, having your looks criticized is what they do to women celebrities. really, they're being progressive.
Oh, yea, having your looks criticized is what they do to women celebrities. really, they're being progressive.
Lekker Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 58 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,488
@OP
Because people like you keep making threads about it.
Because people like you keep making threads about it.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,490
@595,331 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
@595,333 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
@595,399 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
kook, somebody being a celebrity doesn't make bigotry against them okay. Being in the public eye isn't a reason to criticise somebody for being trans. They're not "asking for it".
I mean, are you okay with people calling female celebrities bitches? Or calling black celebrities niggers? Is any and all bigotry justified as long as they're famous?
@595,354 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I don't know what OP actually thinks about this, but I find it interesting how you assume that OP only cares about one side of the trans community. As if you assume they're a hypocrite and not genuinely interested in equality.
@595,323 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Transsexualism itsslf doesn't cause suicide. Rather, it's the stigmatisation and societal aspects of it that can lead a person into that sort of mindset.
Broadly speaking, the risk of suicide is increased by things like social stigmatisation and discrimination. Conversely, quality of life is improved by having good social support in life. So... might we be agreed that a positive step in those suicide rates would be to decrease bigotry against transsexuals? :D
@595,328 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
So are you expecting to find biological elements in people that match up with those of other species rather than humans? Because then it would be "the same" as transsexualism. Because transsexualism is when a person has "the wiring" of the opposite sex. So for your claim that otherkins are the same as trannsexual to be true, a man would need to have something like a brain part that matches that of a wolf.
@595,333 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
@595,399 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
kook, somebody being a celebrity doesn't make bigotry against them okay. Being in the public eye isn't a reason to criticise somebody for being trans. They're not "asking for it".
I mean, are you okay with people calling female celebrities bitches? Or calling black celebrities niggers? Is any and all bigotry justified as long as they're famous?
@595,354 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I don't know what OP actually thinks about this, but I find it interesting how you assume that OP only cares about one side of the trans community. As if you assume they're a hypocrite and not genuinely interested in equality.
@595,323 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
Transsexualism itsslf doesn't cause suicide. Rather, it's the stigmatisation and societal aspects of it that can lead a person into that sort of mindset.
Broadly speaking, the risk of suicide is increased by things like social stigmatisation and discrimination. Conversely, quality of life is improved by having good social support in life. So... might we be agreed that a positive step in those suicide rates would be to decrease bigotry against transsexuals? :D
@595,328 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
So are you expecting to find biological elements in people that match up with those of other species rather than humans? Because then it would be "the same" as transsexualism. Because transsexualism is when a person has "the wiring" of the opposite sex. So for your claim that otherkins are the same as trannsexual to be true, a man would need to have something like a brain part that matches that of a wolf.
Methlyfe !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,497
How is any of this affecting your life OP?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,499
@previous (Methlyfe !KansasxqvM)
You don't have to be on the receiving end of bigotry to disapprove of it.
You don't have to be on the receiving end of bigotry to disapprove of it.
Methlyfe !KansasxqvM replied with this 11 years ago, 38 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,503
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,536
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 35 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,537
kook !!Phkn/3Gic triple-posted this 11 years ago, 27 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,538
Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,541
you're all fucking sjw faggots, that's why this thread has been the only active one in the past day
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,542
@595,536 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
?
You implied that criticising a trans celebrity on the basis of them being transsexual was justified, because they are famous/had made "a spectacle" of their transition. As if the public was okay to made those remarks because the person is a public figure.
@595,503 (Methlyfe !KansasxqvM)
Well, technically their main care is of people who care about trans people.
@595,537 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
They never said that they didn't. And they only mention Caitlyn (an individual) in the OP, then seem to speak about transsexualism in general.
?
You implied that criticising a trans celebrity on the basis of them being transsexual was justified, because they are famous/had made "a spectacle" of their transition. As if the public was okay to made those remarks because the person is a public figure.
@595,503 (Methlyfe !KansasxqvM)
Well, technically their main care is of people who care about trans people.
@595,537 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
They never said that they didn't. And they only mention Caitlyn (an individual) in the OP, then seem to speak about transsexualism in general.
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,544
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Which remarks are transphobic exactly? And yes being a celebrity does open you up to worse criticism then a civilian.
Which remarks are transphobic exactly? And yes being a celebrity does open you up to worse criticism then a civilian.
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 30 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,551
Bruce Jenner was so transphobic he decided to change
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 35 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,555
@595,544 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I was speaking more against your assertion that celebrities in general are more acceptable to receive or are "asking for" those sort of comments. And in @595,331 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic) you seemed to be implying that any and all remarks about Caitlyn's transition (presumably including transphobic ones) were fair game, since she'd been public about it.
But, if we're just referring to that thread, there's plenty of ridiculing her for being trans (and trans people in general) interspersed throughout. Now, I get that those people specifically are channers and are prone to making impolite comments (and indeed, I support such free spaces existing), but I think we're both talking more about people in general than just what 4chan's /tv/ is saying.
I was speaking more against your assertion that celebrities in general are more acceptable to receive or are "asking for" those sort of comments. And in @595,331 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic) you seemed to be implying that any and all remarks about Caitlyn's transition (presumably including transphobic ones) were fair game, since she'd been public about it.
But, if we're just referring to that thread, there's plenty of ridiculing her for being trans (and trans people in general) interspersed throughout. Now, I get that those people specifically are channers and are prone to making impolite comments (and indeed, I support such free spaces existing), but I think we're both talking more about people in general than just what 4chan's /tv/ is saying.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 29 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,563
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
they are more open to ridicule. No one needs to know that Jenner wants a man to treat her like a "real woman"
they are more open to ridicule. No one needs to know that Jenner wants a man to treat her like a "real woman"
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #595,600
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)Even trannys understand that they are not "real" but are some sort of obamanation