dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 38 seconds later[^][v]#593,619
no.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 minute after the original post[^][v]#593,620
@previous (dw)
No, it's not illegal, or no, they don't have the right?
beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 41 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,621
@previous (A)
Maybe you should learn to write a goddamn topic.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 44 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,622
Race is a protected class in the US so no you can't here. If you want to redline you can take a time machine to 1955.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 35 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,627
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
So, basically, if you own a home and the land it stands on, you don't have the right to say who's allowed onto the property?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,630
@previous (A)
Yes. You can't call the cops because the postman is on your property, and a landlords/housing authorities can't tell black people "You can't live here because you're black."
Welcome to the 21st century
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,631
> So, basically, if you own a home and the land it stands on, you don't have the right to say who's allowed onto the property?
What you going to do if house catches on fire. Firemen show up and several are black. You going to refuse service?
One of your kids needs a paramedic and they show up and both are black. You going to say no thank you?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,632
@previous (E) > What you going to do if house catches on fire. Firemen show up and several are black. You going to refuse service? > One of your kids needs a paramedic and they show up and both are black. You going to say no thank you?
But you won't see a nigger firefighter or paramedic. If they do that, they can't collect welfare.
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,633
@previous (F)
are you the same guy that talked about tranny science?
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,634
@593,632 (F)
So what if I added police? You going to use the same argument?
lol
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^][v]#593,636
@OP
Syntax invented the ban on all-White gated communities in the 1960s to ensure that his anus need never remain untongued.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,637
@593,630 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > You can't call the cops because the postman is on your property
As I understand it, the postman can only come as far as the mail box, which in this case would be located at the periphery of the property. The same goes for courier services, which would be directed to deliver to the gatehouse. Any attempt to access the property beyond those points would be trespassing and therefore a clear violation of the law.
> the landlord/housing authorities can't tell black people "You can't live here because you're black."
If a group of whites buy all the land, houses and buildings in a given area, they have the legal right to set up a perimeter, defend their property and turn away unwelcome visitors. Otherwise we couldn't order Salespeople, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses etc to leave the premises.
@593,631 (E)
Those are exceptional circumstances, and anyway, if the community has the proper resources, it could afford its own fire brigade and emergency services.
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,642
For $7.5 Million to $35 million you can buy your own Island. All are part of some country with its own unique laws. But if you're out on some remote island, you can probably do most of what you want to do.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,643
@593,637 (A) > If a group of whites buy all the land, houses and buildings in a given area, they have the legal right to set up a perimeter, defend their property and turn away unwelcome visitors. Otherwise we couldn't order Salespeople, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses etc to leave the premises.
Wrong wrong wrong wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Housing_Act (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/chapter-45/subchapter-I). It is federally illegal to discriminate against people based on race. If you do it you will be sued and you will lose and you will be very unhappy. This is not arguable.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,644
@593,642 (E)
I would prefer to do it in the continental United States, where we could bait all the SJWs who'd object to the signs we'd erect around the perimeter.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,645
@593,643 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Hypothetically, if we've already bought the property, we're under no obligation to sell it to anyone.
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 0 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,646
They're way cheaper man! They start at like 50k usd!!
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,647
@593,643 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I make my living solving problems. I think OP is out of order. However if OP must have it his way...
Besides Islands which are costly, there is one clear other alternative. He can buy a lot of land cheep in China. Areas where blacks do not exist.
There are even already built to occupy villages. Totally modern and un-occupied.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,648
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,650
@593,647 (E)
As previously stated, I'd like to do this in the continental United States. The Chinese legal system is much more totalitarian than even the US.
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,651
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,652
@593,645 (A)
Ok so buy some woods in bumfuck nowhere Vermont or Maine where it is like 95% white and you will have your dream hick redneck inbred fantasyland all to yourself.
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,653
@593,650 (A)
Yet you are well aware Fed laws of USA forbid you from doing what you want to do.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,655
@previous (E)
I am aware of no such thing. No federal law forbids me from buying property and ordering undesirables off the boundaries. The US Constitution even allows me to defend my home, family and possessions with torches, pitchforks and firearms, if need be.
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,656
@593,651 (E)
Are you retarded? Scroll down. It simply puts the ones that haven't got prices listed first. The first one with an actual list price starts from 30k cad and the second one 40k usd
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,659
@previous (dw)
Retarded? That 30K CAD is NOT the price of that Island!
Hemlow Island
Nova Scotia, Canada
LOTS FOR SALE:
2.14 Acres, 270 Ft. Oceanfront: $29,500.00
LOT 2: 25.5 ACRES – 1605 Ft. Oceanfront: $115,000.00
1200 FT. on saltwater pond
LOT 3: 23.8 Acres, 690 Ft. Oceanfront: Price Upon Request
LOT 4: 22.45 Acres, 730 Ft. Oceanfront: Price Upon Request
LOT 6: 21.98 Acres - 775 Ft. Oceanfront: $95,000
LOT 7: 18.23 Acres - 755 Ft. Oceanfront: $105,000
LOT 8: 14.35 Acres – 1285 Ft. Oceanfront: $135,000
SLEEPY COVE: 1.14 –Acres - 326 Ft. Oceanfront: $29,000
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,664
@593,655 (A)
The legality depends on the specifics of what you are doing...and you are being incredibly vague. Federal laws do prevent you from ordering people off your property. You can't order a cop with a valid search warrant off your property, for instance. What I can say is that generally speaking, federal law prohibits the thing you want to do, and while there may be a way to avoid it being illegal, you are not intelligent or knowledgeable enough to know what that way is, and you will fail miserably if you try.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,665
@593,652 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Why do you find this topic so objectionable? This site and TC are full of racist taunts, and nobody seems to bat and eyelid most of the time.
> you will have your dream hick redneck inbred fantasyland all to yourself.
I was thinking more along the lines of a community composed of affluent, intelligent whites, with incomes in excess of 70k per year, rather than dirt poor chicken-scratchers.
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dw replied with this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,666
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,667
@593,665 (A)
I'm tired and the combination of horrendous legal "reasoning", racism, and hand-waving got on my nerves more than topics usually do, sorry. And if you are selecting people to live in your community and rejecting all black applicants...you will be sued and you will lose, and you will be forced to accept them and pay fines.
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Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#593,670
Actually If I were to sell just one of my rental properties I could easily buy that Island
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,671
@593,664 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Again, you're talking the exception rather than the rule. Law enforcement officials require a warrant, they can't simply kick down your door in the middle of the night because they don't like the confederate flag you're flying in front of your home.
In addition, the community could elect a sheriff from within its own population and hire its police force from the same human resource. In that instance, the only external authorities that could intervene would be agencies such as the FBI or Homeland Security, and again, they would only be summoned if there was a legitimate complaint backed up by a federal warrant.
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dw replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,673
@previous (A)
maybe you should just get over your phobia of people that look slightly different from you
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,674
@593,671 (A)
Yes. So IF you are willing to move to Arizona and become a Mormon of sorts? There are several examples of towns that are white/mormon only.
They have their own sheriff and basically are left to do as they please EXCEPT molest kids. That does keep getting Feds to bust in and arrest the leaders and run them off to prison.
You can even have all the wives you want. Those towns are popular targets for Feds and news reporters.
Anonymous E double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,675
@593,673 (dw)
At least he admits he is a Red Neck White racist. Not my kind of person. Takes a village to make Planet Earth. OP probably has Nazi banners all over his bedroom walls.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 46 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,676
@593,671 (A)
You live in a fantasy world. You can't just make up your own police force on a whim, that's illegal. If you are selling housing (which you will need to be registered and licensed to do) you will be federally prohibited from discriminating against people on the basis of their race. This isn't the "exception", this is a flagrant and textbook violation of well-litigated and well-established federal law. That doesn't mean you can't start to do what you want. What it means is when the feds get wind of what you are doing, you will be prosecuted and you will hire an attorney and you will lose and you will be forced to pay a lot of money, AND you will not get your wonderful neo-nazi paradise. But good luck man, I hope you brandish a gun at LEOs when you get served the lawsuit.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,680
@593,667 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > And if you are selecting people to live in your community and rejecting all black applicants...you will be sued and you will lose, and you will be forced to accept them and pay fines.
Why do you assume we want to sell the land to anybody? Hypothetically, if a group of wealthy white investors buy a thousand acres of Real Estate for themselves, they can use it for any purposes they choose. They have no intention to sell their property to anybody, and are under no obligation to subdivide their land to outsiders.
On the other hand, they have every right to invite whomever they choose to visit and/or stay for extended periods, just as they have every right to order tramps, vagrants, and religious advocates off the property.
Under those circumstances, I don't see how we could be sued for simply exercising our Constitutional right to protect our own possessions. At the end of the day, if you don't want someone in your home, you don't have them in your home. And that law applies regardless of that person's race, gender, religion or sexual preferences.
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,684
@previous (A)
You are describing Rapture except for racists.
dw double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,685
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,686
@593,680 (A)
How are you going to organize this? Is it a CoOp? A Condo? A HoA? If it's an HoA, who's the developer? Who are you purchasing the land from? What restrictions will they place on it? Do you have even the slightest idea how any of this is done? No. Because you are very racist and therefore, very stupid. You don't know jack shit about even the most rudimentary aspects of buying and owning large swathes of real estate, and you think you can just walk into town hall with a check and get what you want. You're dumb. Your idea sucks. You will fail. Goodnight.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 40 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,688
@593,676 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > You can't just make up your own police force on a whim, that's illegal.
Actually you can, it's called a militia. And there are also legal processes by which local law enforcement officials can be elected, as Anonymous E points out, there are communities which have done just that in Arizona and other parts of the rural United States.
However, I have no desire to live in any religiously dominated community, as I said earlier, I was thinking more along the lines of intelligent, rational, affluent whites, not religious fanatics. People can worship anything they want as long they don't try to force it on anyone else.
> If you are selling housing (which you will need to be registered and licensed to do) you will be federally prohibited from discriminating against people on the basis of their race.
Once we've bought it, we're not selling. You seem to have missed that point entirely.
@593,675 (E) > OP probably has Nazi banners all over his bedroom walls.
Actually, I don't. Nor am I affiliated with any white supremacist group.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,689
@593,686 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > How are you going to organize this?
The same way everyone else does. A group of like-minded individuals pool their resources, and go out to find a selection of viable properties in close proximity to each other. They sign the necessary papers, buy the land, and its theirs. QED. Once they own it, they don't have to sell it to anyone. They can, however, buy adjoining plots and give them to their descendants as the community grows. Nothing illegal about any of that.
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Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,690
@593,688 (A)
Religious communities do have certain exemptions - to a degree anyway.
You did say > if the community has the proper resources, it could afford its own fire brigade and emergency services.
Yes but its illegal to even attempt to make it a white only set of services. Also the community is going to want restaurants etc etc. Gas stations. Grocery stores.
Keeping all that white only is at the very least going to make a lot of attorneys happy.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,692
@previous (E)
Yes, you can, it's called a volunteer fire brigade. As a general rule, VFBs are made up of local citizens, hence the VFB would be all-white because there's nobody else to choose from within the community.
> Also the community is going to want restaurants etc etc. Gas stations. Grocery stores.
Not necessarily. We can get all of those services and facilities from outside the community. Even the Amish take trips downtown for supplies in Pennsylvania.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,694
@593,676 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > What it means is when the feds get wind of what you are doing
What exactly am I doing which would attract the FBI? As far as I know, I'm buying land for myself and ordering unwelcome visitors to leave. How does that violate any federal law? Also, let's say I decide to sell a few acres privately to a friend. Is there any law against that?
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Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,696
@previous (A)
I think you forgot the topic of your post. > Is it illegal to create an all-white gated community?
What is so difficult about reading the laws that say you cannot. I am sure you are aware of the history of USA.
What you need is a time machine.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,697
@OP
Not sure if someone suggested this, but move to South Africa. There are plenty there.
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,700
@593,689 (A)
What? Oh your thinking of the biblical thing. I was referring to the game Bioshock which has a similar premise as what you are describing except not for racists.
dw double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,704
How are you going to get this group of rich white people together without discriminating based on race?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,710
@previous (dw)
Well, there's this thing called the internet...
@593,697 (I)
As I've said twice already, I want to do this in the continental United States so that I can fuck with the SJWs.
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,713
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,715
@593,710 (A)
Then you are fucked. There are laws governing discrimination concerning housing based on race, even if it's a good predictor of poor behavior.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,719
> I think you forgot the topic of your post. What is so difficult about reading the laws that say you cannot.
Well, a few years ago, a white supremacist named Craig Cobb started buying up land in Leith, North Dakota with the stated objective of creating an all-white community. Despite what Fake Anon says regarding the law, the Feds didn't clap him in irons; in fact there was no prosecution over that particular incident (although he was later arrested for patrolling the town with with a loaded weapon and has outstanding warrants in Canada for hate speech or some shit). There was very little anyone could do to stop him buying land and promoting a "white zone" other than mount protests. As a matter of fact, the Feds never got involved as far as I know, and the best local authorities could do was have his house condemned under some obscure health regulation.
So, here's the question: if Federal law can't stop one stupid redneck from promoting an openly racist agenda, how would they stop a group of privileged, educated, affluent whites from doing the same thing? Unlike Cobb, they wouldn't be rooked by sanitation officers and might conceivably use the law to their own advantage.
For those who are interested: Craig Cobb is now considered a laughing stock after a DNA test proved he had African ancestry.
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Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,723
@previous (A) > Craig Cobb is now considered a laughing stock after a DNA test proved he had African ancestry.
So perhaps you might not really be white after all.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,726
@593,715 (I)
Those laws don't cover private sales. Once I own a property, I can sell it to whoever I choose.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,727
@593,723 (J)
I'm not 100 percent white, but that's never been a problem.
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,732
@previous (A)
So you want to end up with White guys like this one.
Anonymous E double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,734
You might recognize him in this photo
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 9 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,735
@593,726 (A)
Oh, really? I didn't know. Where are you looking to do this? I might be interested. The daughters of wealthy racists tend to be sluts.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,743
@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
Its a hypothetical situation. I'm not wealthy, I have no children and I'm not completely white. I'm just curious as to why this topic has received such a negative response on a board literally drowning in racism, and why so many users here seem to think it's illegal to buy land and then sell it privately to whoever you want.
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Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,753
@previous (A)
Don't think you are being fair wit us. You can buy a chunk of land. If laws allow you can sub divide it. You and I both know that you cannot really create a white only community without problems.
Besides you say you are not really all that white.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#593,757
@previous (E)
There would be problems creating any community from scratch, but it wouldn't be impossible.
> Besides you say you are not really all that white.
I'm about 1/16 Native American, but you wouldn't know unless I told you. I have more in common with my Irish ancestors & relatives, though I suspect a few here would question whether the Irish can be classified as white either.