Topic: Angry Harry is my new hero.
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #44,672
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #589,833
I can tell from the URL alone that this is going to be some women-bashing nonsense.kook !!b4KbSydQS joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 45 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #589,844
hahahahah he mentioned the chimp thing. He does have something in common with sjw's
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,976
> For example, he whacks her not so much because he wants to control her, or because he wants to achieve something, but because she persists in going on and on and on and on about something that she wants. And in doing so, she is well-trained in the art of using the verbal knife in order to hurt him and to drive him crazy.
> Indeed, if you study the court cases, it transpires that many men have killed their partners because they could no longer stand the sound of "her voice going on and on and on".
Fucking women, being mean. They deserve to get murdered. It's all their own fault!
> Indeed, if you study the court cases, it transpires that many men have killed their partners because they could no longer stand the sound of "her voice going on and on and on".
Fucking women, being mean. They deserve to get murdered. It's all their own fault!
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 35 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,988
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
Here's the the thing, this is kind of true. When you look at instances of women being assaulted by their lovers, you find a few interesting things.
1. Men will try and distance themselves during an argument with their partner, because they are trying not to get violent. They'll stop talking and walk into another room, or even leave the house. The women will follow them, and do things to try and prevent them from leaving the home.
2. During an of instance domestic violence, women often throw the first punch, slap, etc but they dont make it count. So not only does she not incapacitate her "abuser" but she also ups the level of violence in the confrontation, which allows him to retaliate.
3.The most common phrase spoken by a woman right before she is assaulted is "motherfucker"
4. A good amount of serial killers state that the nonstop insults from a female acquaintance (relative or otherwise) were the primary motive for the murder.
One of these is Edward Kemper who killed his mother for that very reason, and threw her larynx down the garbage disposal in a symbolic gesture.
Here's the the thing, this is kind of true. When you look at instances of women being assaulted by their lovers, you find a few interesting things.
1. Men will try and distance themselves during an argument with their partner, because they are trying not to get violent. They'll stop talking and walk into another room, or even leave the house. The women will follow them, and do things to try and prevent them from leaving the home.
2. During an of instance domestic violence, women often throw the first punch, slap, etc but they dont make it count. So not only does she not incapacitate her "abuser" but she also ups the level of violence in the confrontation, which allows him to retaliate.
3.The most common phrase spoken by a woman right before she is assaulted is "motherfucker"
4. A good amount of serial killers state that the nonstop insults from a female acquaintance (relative or otherwise) were the primary motive for the murder.
One of these is Edward Kemper who killed his mother for that very reason, and threw her larynx down the garbage disposal in a symbolic gesture.
brie joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,036
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,037
brie replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,040
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,049
@589,988 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
So you're saying women should just shut up in case something they say hurts a man's feeling. Thanks.
So you're saying women should just shut up in case something they say hurts a man's feeling. Thanks.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,055
@589,988 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
From where are you getting this information? It sounds like something you'd find on an MRA site. It's phrased in a way that minimises blame on the man (who is apparently forced to resort to violence by a vindictive campaign of nagging and entrapment) whilst emphasising the woman's actions as the root cause.
From where are you getting this information? It sounds like something you'd find on an MRA site. It's phrased in a way that minimises blame on the man (who is apparently forced to resort to violence by a vindictive campaign of nagging and entrapment) whilst emphasising the woman's actions as the root cause.
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,059
@589,988 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I think at the end of the day although it's true some men can be easily provoked, it's up to an individual not to assault other people except in self-defence. I've been in some really terrible arguments in the past and I know just how aggravating some things can be, but even the worst thing that's been said to me is not an excuse to murder or assault my partner.
I think at the end of the day although it's true some men can be easily provoked, it's up to an individual not to assault other people except in self-defence. I've been in some really terrible arguments in the past and I know just how aggravating some things can be, but even the worst thing that's been said to me is not an excuse to murder or assault my partner.
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Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,062
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,064
@previous (B)
Gotta let it all out before I can relax to go to sleep
It was an autocorrect lol. Should have said think.
Gotta let it all out before I can relax to go to sleep
It was an autocorrect lol. Should have said think.
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brie replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #590,082
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,145
@590,049 (F)
I'm saying that both sides have a responsibility to respect each other and not egg each other into being violent
I'm saying that both sides have a responsibility to respect each other and not egg each other into being violent
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,146
@590,055 (B)
After that whole stand your ground debacle, I bought many books on legal self defense and the stages of crime. My statement minimizes the mans part, because that is what this discussion is about.
After that whole stand your ground debacle, I bought many books on legal self defense and the stages of crime. My statement minimizes the mans part, because that is what this discussion is about.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic triple-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,147
@590,059 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
I agree, but that doesnt change the fact that when often resort to violence first in a argument. Ineffective violence is still violence.
I agree, but that doesnt change the fact that when often resort to violence first in a argument. Ineffective violence is still violence.
brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,151
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
seriously, violence is not okay even if ineffective. Divas have a lot to learn from you kook, lol!
seriously, violence is not okay even if ineffective. Divas have a lot to learn from you kook, lol!
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,153
@590,146 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
But it says things like "men will try to physically distance themselves" and " women often throw the first punch". That's not just a focus on the woman's role in starting domestic violence, those statements cast positive and negative perceptions upon entire genders.
But it says things like "men will try to physically distance themselves" and " women often throw the first punch". That's not just a focus on the woman's role in starting domestic violence, those statements cast positive and negative perceptions upon entire genders.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,159
brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,160
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,163
@590,159 (A)
I would dispute that, as my learnings in psychology have shown me that a hell of a lot more than gender influences behaviour.
I would dispute that, as my learnings in psychology have shown me that a hell of a lot more than gender influences behaviour.
brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,166
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yes this is the truth but gender has something to do with it, clearly.
Yes this is the truth but gender has something to do with it, clearly.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,168
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,169
@590,163 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
But isn't Cornwelsh psychology a little different than that of the Western world?
But isn't Cornwelsh psychology a little different than that of the Western world?
brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,170
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,174
Lemon Drop !CITRUS3QCY (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,177
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Why do you hate me so much? I am just raising issues about gender. You seemed to be enjoying the thread. Why hate me so much? Serious question.
Why do you hate me so much? I am just raising issues about gender. You seemed to be enjoying the thread. Why hate me so much? Serious question.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 33 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,188
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,189
@590,151 (brie !uXWPG0MygI)
I believe in a proportionate response but I don't think that everyone does so I never throw the first punch. Some people (especially women) believe in the body sacrosanct and that people will not retaliate because you shouldn't hit girls.
I believe in a proportionate response but I don't think that everyone does so I never throw the first punch. Some people (especially women) believe in the body sacrosanct and that people will not retaliate because you shouldn't hit girls.
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brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,191
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,193
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 50 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,200
@590,188 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I won't deny that, intentionally or not, a female partner could do something to anger her male partner. Although, I still agree with Ash about the person doing the abuse being the one in the wrong.
The only thing I took issue with was your phrasing, the issues of which I've explained.
I won't deny that, intentionally or not, a female partner could do something to anger her male partner. Although, I still agree with Ash about the person doing the abuse being the one in the wrong.
The only thing I took issue with was your phrasing, the issues of which I've explained.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,201
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Unintentionally? Hitting someone, cursing them out, and refusing to let them leave a confrontation is very intentionally.
My wording spooked you both because you're so used to hearing these issues with a tone that automatically puts men as the aggressor.
Unintentionally? Hitting someone, cursing them out, and refusing to let them leave a confrontation is very intentionally.
My wording spooked you both because you're so used to hearing these issues with a tone that automatically puts men as the aggressor.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,207
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
It's an argument, the male may well be acting aggressively too. I doubt the man is often just sitting there politely until he suddenly explodes and lashes out. And an argument isn't even the only situation in which domestic abuse can spring from, FYI. One partner could just be a crazy person who flips out with little provocation.
And you are wrong about why I took issue with your post. I know that domestic abuse can be done by a male or a female, so I don't view it as a gendered thing. In fact, I recently attended an induction thing where somebody who monitors domestic abuse spoke, and she said as much herself.
It's an argument, the male may well be acting aggressively too. I doubt the man is often just sitting there politely until he suddenly explodes and lashes out. And an argument isn't even the only situation in which domestic abuse can spring from, FYI. One partner could just be a crazy person who flips out with little provocation.
And you are wrong about why I took issue with your post. I know that domestic abuse can be done by a male or a female, so I don't view it as a gendered thing. In fact, I recently attended an induction thing where somebody who monitors domestic abuse spoke, and she said as much herself.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,219
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
So what's the problem? I only spoke the truth, and so did angry Harry, tone policing aside.
So what's the problem? I only spoke the truth, and so did angry Harry, tone policing aside.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,221
My advice to women, never hit, slap, or punch someone unless you're doing it to incapacitate. Also after you make the blow, you need to run. Don't hang around to see if your attack was successful and don't hang around so that you can continue cursing and insulting someone. That's how you get killed.
Angry Barry joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,225
Don't leave me!!
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,233
@590,219 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
I already explained my problem. Your initial post didn't seem to quite reflect reality in that it seems to live in a world where only women ever (or at least often) provoke domestic assaults, and the man is basically entrapped into lashing out. It just seems to blame the female gender a tad too much, m8.
And do you really want to call Angry Harry a guy who is "only speaking the truth" when he is claiming that women have brains designed to manipulate men? He is calling women heartless manipulators at a fundamental level.
I already explained my problem. Your initial post didn't seem to quite reflect reality in that it seems to live in a world where only women ever (or at least often) provoke domestic assaults, and the man is basically entrapped into lashing out. It just seems to blame the female gender a tad too much, m8.
And do you really want to call Angry Harry a guy who is "only speaking the truth" when he is claiming that women have brains designed to manipulate men? He is calling women heartless manipulators at a fundamental level.
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,242
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Women's brains are designed so that they can get their way without the use of violence. If you are disputing that, I'd like to hear it.
Also if my original statement had mostly blamed men, you would have said nothing.
The person throwing the first punch is the instigator of the violence, not necessarily the confrontation.
Women's brains are designed so that they can get their way without the use of violence. If you are disputing that, I'd like to hear it.
Also if my original statement had mostly blamed men, you would have said nothing.
The person throwing the first punch is the instigator of the violence, not necessarily the confrontation.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,248
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
You don't think that saying a woman's brain is literally designed to manipulate men is going a little far? He's calling women innately manipulative and immoral.
I would have said the same sort of stuff if you had been talking about men, m8- my whole issue here is against generalisations as a whole. Can you understand that? I am not motivated by some sort of political correctness, which you seem to be be assuming.
> The person throwing the first punch is the instigator of the violence, not necessarily the confrontation.
Makes sense, but that varies anyway.
You don't think that saying a woman's brain is literally designed to manipulate men is going a little far? He's calling women innately manipulative and immoral.
I would have said the same sort of stuff if you had been talking about men, m8- my whole issue here is against generalisations as a whole. Can you understand that? I am not motivated by some sort of political correctness, which you seem to be be assuming.
> The person throwing the first punch is the instigator of the violence, not necessarily the confrontation.
Makes sense, but that varies anyway.
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,253
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
It is designed to manipulate people, because that's a safer method of navigating a situation.
Women have better verbal skills for a reason. If you don't have brute strength, what can you do*? You talk it out.
Are you actually trying to say that women aren't better manipulators than men?
It is designed to manipulate people, because that's a safer method of navigating a situation.
Women have better verbal skills for a reason. If you don't have brute strength, what can you do*? You talk it out.
Are you actually trying to say that women aren't better manipulators than men?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,259
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
That's not really what I'm getting at. The way Harry uses it, is to imply a vindictiveness inherent in women.
It's plain to see from the rest of the website that he has a low opinion of women. He denies that women are or have have been oppressed, he calls feminism a "Marxist plot" to destroy families, and at the end of that rant in the OP, he basically says that ALL women are callous manipulators, one-dimensional manipulators.
I'm sorry, m8, but this guy is a textbook MRA.
That's not really what I'm getting at. The way Harry uses it, is to imply a vindictiveness inherent in women.
It's plain to see from the rest of the website that he has a low opinion of women. He denies that women are or have have been oppressed, he calls feminism a "Marxist plot" to destroy families, and at the end of that rant in the OP, he basically says that ALL women are callous manipulators, one-dimensional manipulators.
I'm sorry, m8, but this guy is a textbook MRA.
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,264
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I don't care about his hate for the women as long as he is stating facts. His site has a lot of true things on it. Mra or sjw if its true its true.
He even believes in the chimpanzee thing just like sjw's/trannies do, and that's very amusing to me.
Maybe you should look at his points and dispute them one by one instead of saying that he's an mra and calling it a day.
Also mra's have a lot if good points. Such as disproportionate sentences for crimes and skewed child custody agreements.
I don't care about his hate for the women as long as he is stating facts. His site has a lot of true things on it. Mra or sjw if its true its true.
He even believes in the chimpanzee thing just like sjw's/trannies do, and that's very amusing to me.
Maybe you should look at his points and dispute them one by one instead of saying that he's an mra and calling it a day.
Also mra's have a lot if good points. Such as disproportionate sentences for crimes and skewed child custody agreements.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,266
@previous (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
So now you're defending a man who openly denies that women have been oppressed at all? Who portrays an entire gender as evil schemers? That's the guy whose view you want on domestic violence? He even fantasises that before feminism, domestic violence was always blamed on the woman, and that he would approve of this!
What happened to you, buspuppie? I thought you used to be all about standing up for women. :(
So now you're defending a man who openly denies that women have been oppressed at all? Who portrays an entire gender as evil schemers? That's the guy whose view you want on domestic violence? He even fantasises that before feminism, domestic violence was always blamed on the woman, and that he would approve of this!
What happened to you, buspuppie? I thought you used to be all about standing up for women. :(
kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,267
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I'm not defending anyone. I'm saying that his opinions don't render actual facts as being useless.
And what happened to me is that I became disgusted with this new trend of blaming men for all of society's problems and saying shit like drinking male tears or saying that all men should die.
I'm not defending anyone. I'm saying that his opinions don't render actual facts as being useless.
And what happened to me is that I became disgusted with this new trend of blaming men for all of society's problems and saying shit like drinking male tears or saying that all men should die.
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brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,268
I'm tired of talk like this. Everybody know women are master manipulators, can we just leave it at that?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,271
Well, I'm not sure I'd call his narrative of women being skilled, callous manipulators to be particularly factual, overall He even says that women can't appreciate football tactics but can appreciate soaps because they're apparently to do with manipulation, for fuck's sake.
I appreciate what you're saying about stereotyping against men. That mindset is certainly bad and irrational. Yet, you should take care not to support the other side of the spectrum either. This guy is quite plainly a misogynist, and isn't really saying anything more than "women are inherently bad". It is okay to disregard him.
I appreciate what you're saying about stereotyping against men. That mindset is certainly bad and irrational. Yet, you should take care not to support the other side of the spectrum either. This guy is quite plainly a misogynist, and isn't really saying anything more than "women are inherently bad". It is okay to disregard him.
brie !uXWPG0MygI replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,277
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Disregard for mounting evidence on a topic? Seriously??? Well, okay!
Disregard for mounting evidence on a topic? Seriously??? Well, okay!
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kook !!Phkn/3Gic replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,279
hater !JGlOo5d1iU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,354
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,402
@590,279 (kook !!Phkn/3Gic)
In some cases, but he clearly takes it too far, fantasising that every woman is constantly looking to use men to her own ends, and I an expert in doing so. It's like he doesn't believe that women can possess things like altruism or empathy.
In some cases, but he clearly takes it too far, fantasising that every woman is constantly looking to use men to her own ends, and I an expert in doing so. It's like he doesn't believe that women can possess things like altruism or empathy.
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hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #590,406
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> It's like he doesn't believe that women can possess things like altruism or empathy.
They can't when it concerns men who don't provide for them (provide can be emotional or material). Look at the modern feminist movement as evidence of this.
> It's like he doesn't believe that women can possess things like altruism or empathy.
They can't when it concerns men who don't provide for them (provide can be emotional or material). Look at the modern feminist movement as evidence of this.