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Topic: The woman who heckled Bernie Sanders

kook !!b4KbSydQS started this discussion 11 years ago #44,602

Is a Republican Sarah Palin supporter. Sanders grew up in Brooklyn and spent his entire political career working for civil rights. He has a perfect rating from the NAACP for five years and marched with MLK Jr.
But they are still tearing into him on Gawker media and tumblr. This makes me sick.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later[^] [v] #588,939

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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #588,944

It makes me laugh. He's one of those old leftie jews who actually cared about black people and his entire campaign is basically more gibmedats for them, yet he still gets humiliated and shat on by them. It's partly his fault though, for letting himself be shouted by two unstable fat redbones.

I want to see those cowardly hashtag warriors do that on Trump. Now that would be real comedy.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #588,946

@previous (C)
They would never. They only picked on Bernie because they knew that he wouldn't fight back.
I've been accused of "whitesplaining" like six times already.

(Edited 20 seconds later.)

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #588,950

@588,944 (C)
> gibmedats

Kill yourself

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,951

@previous (D)
umad lol

@588,946 (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
these people never act on anything unless they have a 100% failproof safety-net that prevents them from ever losing.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,952

@previous (C)
Pretty much.

Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,954

@OP
The Washington Post says she supported Palin in high school, which must have been 7 years ago (assuming McCain-Palin 2008).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/08/bernie-sanders-leaves-seattle-stage-after-event-disrupted-by-black-lives-matter-protesters/

I can't read Gawker because it pushes my blood pressure into the danger zone but I tried to read two posts about Bernie Sanders and I just can't believe it. One post, by Hamilton Nolan, Don't Piss on Your Best Friend was very reasonable but then Jason Parham's response Lessons in Etiquette: Protest and the Politics of Civility reminded me why I don't read any of the Gawker blogs:
The trouble is the language Nolan uses to police black suffering (and, really, the belief that it needs to be governed at all). He calls the protest of Sanders, who, lest we forget, is a politician, “counterproductive,” “remarkably dumb,” and “stupid.” He also reduces the trauma voiced by BLM Seattle members to shouting, which is both irresponsible and disrespectful of the group’s core belief that activism can shift political and social change (mostly because it has in other cities where racial discord and injustice are widespread). At its heart, Nolan’s message translates to: Wait, just listen! Bernie can fix the structural inequality that has plagued this country since its birth. There is an underlying sense (a posture, if you will) that he somehow knows what is best for Black Lives Matter protestors (Atlantic writer Conor Friedersdorf raised a similar point). I hesitate to label this privilege, mostly because Nolan often writes wonderfully on class inequality and America’s poor and is generally aware of his position in our country’s race-based hierarchy, but his assessment of the Sanders incident was misguided.

What is this "policing" thing? I thought thats what cops do. "I think heckling Bernie is not a good strategy to effect change in the political system" "ZOMG STOP POLICING I AM SO TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW'' You're right, don't support the guy who marched with MLK for civil rights instead kick him off stage and heckle him and make him look like a total weak ineffectual dumbass and let Hillary or Trump win.

dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,955

I thought gawker was left wing

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,956

I love this comment on Jason Parham's post:
Lets figure this one out. Bernie is from Vermont. Vermont has NO major cities, NO real population centers, NO diversity. Vermont is ALL white.

Bernie spent his whole life all nice and comfy thinking about great concepts and how the world could be a better place. He wasn’t forced to witness what’s happening RIGHT NOW on our streets. He never seen anything like what’s going on right now across the country. He has no idea.

Bernie has been cloaked in a WHITE BUBBLE for his whole life. The man ain’t racist, but he is ignorant as hell.

Yes, Brooklyn is famous for being a lily white country town.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,957

@588,955 (dw)
It's very far left

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,958

@588,954 (Metæ)
I'm burning up my keyboard over there. That site is so embarrassing.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,959

@588,955 (dw)
Gawker is clickbait/defamation wing

Syntax joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,960

@588,956 (Metæ)
> Bernie has been cloaked in a WHITE BUBBLE for his whole life. The man ain’t racist, but he is ignorant as hell.

Shades of Donald Trump

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,961

@588,957 (kook !!b4KbSydQS)

> It's very far left

Then why are they being critical of Sanders??

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,963

@previous (dw)

They are the shitty side of the left that confuse supporting minority people with patronising them

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,964

@588,961 (dw)
Because he's an old,cis, white man. Seriously.

Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,965

@588,961 (dw)
Sanders calls himself a Democratic Socialist - Doubt in the long run such title will be all so much so good for him.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,967

@588,963 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
Yep. It's not quite tumblr, but it's close.

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,968

@previous (kook !!b4KbSydQS)

I'm not in your side that they were totally wrong either. They should have done it better than their half-assed plan but it achieved its goals by recieving such attention in a way that a question from the crowd wouldn't have done and they have an important message that Bernie wasn't talking about in his manifesto, that race relations are fucked up in the USA.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,970

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
They picked literally the worst politician. Every speech made doesn't need to be about black people.

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,972

@previous (kook !!b4KbSydQS)

No but some speeches do

They picked the best one, because he is the only one who will give what they say the time of day

(Edited 26 seconds later.)

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #588,974

@588,958 (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
A lotof the comments say this happened because of the major candidates, Bernie's the only accessible one doing low security public access events. Hillary's Secret Service thugs would have tazed, pepper sprayed and cuffed the BLM ladies, and Trump probably would have physically shoved them off stage (complete with a "You're fired!" quip).

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,975

@588,972 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
If they only needed him to listen then they could have gone about it in a completely different way. Even if he had been talking about black rights, they still would have interrupted.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,976

@588,974 (Metæ)
I think that they wanted someone who wouldn't stop them, because they're cowards without much to say.

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 38 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,981

@previous (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
that's why they scream and bully and insult

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,983

@previous (squeegee)
Yep. They actually say that him marching with MLK doesn't count, because a lot of people did that

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 24 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,984

@588,976 (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
what did they have to say anyway? I never actually heard their message, just heard about their methods. (which is why protests should be peaceful and respectful, their message gets drowned out by their means if they are anything but Gandhi-like)

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,986

@588,961 (dw)
There's clicks in it. Gotta get dat sweet advertiser money.

Or that's part of the reason, anyway. Yes, they are also just quite shit from a ideological standpoint.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,989

@588,984 (squeegee)
They said that they were shutting down the event, Bernie stepped aside to let them speak, they then called the city racist because they were booed, and had a 4 1/2 minute long moment of silence for Michael Brown. That's about it
This was a celebration for the 80th anniversary of social security, which Bernie helped create.

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,991

@previous (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
> This was a celebration for the 80th anniversary of social security, which Bernie helped create.
I think you've confused Bernie Sanders with another elderly Jewish gentleman.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,993

@previous (Metæ)
Have I really?

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,995

@previous (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
Syntax claims to have invented Social Security while he was advising Franklin Roosevelt on demographic policy.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,996

@previous (Metæ)
Lol you're cute.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 28 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #588,999

@588,989 (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
What's hilarious is they were only doing it to be disruptive. They didn't care. 4 minute moment of silence? That's totally just a power play. They were going to make people be quiet. I woudlnt have: I would have shouted "thank god that niggers dead."

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,001

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
It definitely was a publicity stunt for people who didn't have much to say. I've been trying to get various sjw hangouts to admit that they don't need black allies. It's fun.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,005

@previous (kook !!b4KbSydQS)
I would not vote for Bernie sanders because he pandered to them. The fuck he allowed himself to be bullied by a bunch of fucking worthless nobodies demonstrates he does not have what it takes to lead.

I really think I might not vote this election. I don't see any candidates deserving.

kook !!b4KbSydQS (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 21 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,015

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
It did make him look weak

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,022

Over at the democratic underground their imploding between the Hillary vs Sanders supporters. The general belief with many sanders backers is that some of these BLM protesters are being sent out by the Hillary camp.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 21 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,023

@previous (N)
I think they were just entitled fucks who wanted to make white people listen to them because they feel weak and powerless.

I think we need to stop acting like idiots who take up one of these non-organized social media causes are free from criticism. It's ridiculous. It's defiant protection for any idiot because if you criticize them, suddenly you're racist, or privileged or other buzzwords that negate any need for actually articulating an argument.

They make me more racist, too, so they're not even helping.

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,028

@588,968 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
> race relations are fucked up in the USA.
lol
no shit

so fucked up in fact that two aggressive, screeching partisans can just waltz in and bully a presidential candidate into giving up the microphone in his own event while everyone, crowd, security and the candidate himself just stand back impotently.

What a massively fucked up situation you created for yourselves, lol. And there's people like you that seems to think that's a good idea. No wonder race relations are so fucked up.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #589,029

@previous (C)
Benjamin Franklin would be ashamed, well, actually, he'd just be trying to get into the girl's panties. He liked the dark meat.
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