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Topic: i'm on windows 10 now

squeegee started this discussion 11 years ago #44,451

so far so good. no major problems. also games seem to work better. it's nice! the UI is close enough to 7 that it's still usable without having to figure where the fuck everything went. i guess i'm okay with it, but really only because directX 12 stuff seems to be having a good impact on things.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #587,010

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #587,011

have you disabled all the tracking bits and bobs

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #587,012

Are there any adverts in there? I heard it had targeted adverts somewhere in there.

brie joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #587,014

I downgraded to windows 7.

squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #587,027

@587,010 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
to try it out

@587,011 (C)
i did a custom install and did all of those, i'll be nuking the setting i'm sure. looking to see what "problems" come from not

@587,012 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
not in the desktop UI that i've seen. there's an app area in your start-up that has a couple of apps for like finding games and music. probably all tied to their app store thing i guess

Dr.Ghost LouiePhD !uSk4BCgU1. joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #587,028

@OP

Methlyfe joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #587,029

I'm trying out windows 10 on a laptop before I think about upgrading every PC. I used a pirated copy of Windows 7 to get a free genuine copy of 10.

Dr.Ghost LouiePhD !uSk4BCgU1. replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #587,031

@previous (Methlyfe)

I use a pirated copy of Win7 that Windows recognizes as genuine. I can receive updates, and errrvrything.

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #587,033

lol win10

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,057

Get Start10 (or Start8 because it also works) for a more traditional Windows 7-style Start Menu. I disabled the Cortana search thing so my windows 10 is basically the same as Windows 7 except it boots faster and games run better.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,061

@587,011 (C)

> have you disabled all the tracking bits and bobs

When you install, they make the "custom" install hard to find. It's in small text only while the express install with all the data mining and advertisement targeting is big large in a block and a completely different location.


I hate sleaze-bag shit like that. I hope I don't later find out they still track you even if you select "no" to all options. It's seems like that's the entire point of windows 10, and I don't trust sleaze-bags.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 39 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,084

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
They still do. I haven't upgraded yet but I've been reading articles about how hard it is to stop all the snooping. Settings that are pages deep and hard to find etc.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,088

@previous (J)
Really ugh. Just why not make me pay for it? $100 upgrade isn't bad. Ducking sleaze-bags.

A law needs to pass that outlaws this shit without explicit large print notifications that you have to accept for each singular instance of data mining, and any violations should result in huge financial penalties for the companies and execution for their top management. In a very sadistic manner.

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,090

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
Hundred bucks? Windows 7 still works too.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,092

@previous (brie)
I had windows 8, which I experienced some issues with which I think was linked to early release games as playing them caused my PC to crash a few times. Had not happened recently.

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,095

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
Windows 8 is alright as well, I had it on a couple of laptops nefore this one.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,099

@previous (brie)
I didn't get the hate. Seems people hated the tablet/touchscreen default home which you could disable anyway.

whore's back riding joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,133

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
well it pisses me off that they would make the OS a shitty marketing gimmick with a built-in store to sell you more shit called "apps" for some reason, and requires third-party software to actually give a proper OS experience.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,140

@previous (whore's back riding)
What third party software is necessary?

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,156

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
Linux

whore's back riding replied with this 11 years ago, 30 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,174

@587,140 (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
You know, to get a proper desktop windows GUI, with 8 we have to get something like whatever the fuck it's called I forgot

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,175

@previous (whore's back riding)
start8 rite?

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,178

@587,174 (whore's back riding)
I had 8, and the GUI was fine. What you smoking? It took maybe an extra click to get to programs. I never found it an issue. I had all my most used programs, or are they called "apps" now??, on my desktop. Steam, lol, Firefox, EQ emulator, calculator. Everything I needed.

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,180

@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
nice,

whore's back riding replied with this 11 years ago, 54 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,199

@587,178 (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
extra clicks are the fucking devil - currently I am very pissed off at Google for requiring two fucking screens to sign into gmail now, and I can't even use the Enter key to get from one to the next - you have to type your email, then move your hand to your mouse to click to get the next screen to load, and then back to the keyboard to type your fucking password then back to the mouse ARG FUCK YOU GOOGLE

no, the GUI was shit, weren't you paying attention

@587,175 (brie)
yeah that's one of them

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hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,202

@previous (whore's back riding)
Ooh, ok. The google thing bothers me as well. I agree, the GUI could be a lot better.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,284

So I see a few people praising Windows 10 for running games better. Could I get some elaboration on that, please? How much better are we talking?

@587,061 (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
@587,084 (J)
Well, if this is the case, then I'll certainly be staying on Windows 7 for now.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,285

Should I upgrade to Windows 10 or wait three months?
I heard rumor that Microsoft can actually prevent pirated games and media from running.
Is this true or just paranoia?

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 44 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,304

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Windows 10 is a piracy machine. try it.

DasSheeple joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 27 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,320

As the biggest MS fanboy to ever post on Minichan... I just upgraded to Linux Mint and installed Windows 10 in a virtual machine.

Works like a charm for everything I need work related, but for browsing and personal stuff, I'll use Linux from now.

Too many privacy issues with Windows 10, and so much data sent to MS even after you disable telemetry on Windows 10 Enterprise.

We will see if Nadella gets back to his senses and things change for the better, but I doubt, specially after Win 7 and 8 recieved the telemetry sending update.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,329

@587,304 (brie)
Are you sure?

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 28 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,330

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Nope.

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,436

@587,284 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
direct x 12 is excellent from what it looks like. as an example i'll use Star Citizen, i used to get significant drops in framerate, i would dip into the 30s easily. now i'm steady at 60fps all around AND with highest settings. huge improvement in smoothness.

i'll check GTA 5 tonight, but i hear there are significant improvements there as well. but yeah, the future looks great for dx12 games.

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,437

@previous (squeegee)
wow i am furiious about learning to record the space walk in spanish!~

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,439

@587,436 (squeegee)
Hm, so it's pretty much beneficial if you're into high graphical settings? Is that right?

In that case, I'm not too bothered. I rarely have performance issues with games. Thanks anyway, though.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 38 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,456

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
it just lets lower end hardware run better. the biggest gains will be seen on medium end builds. high end builds aren't seeing big improvements becuase they are already so high end software can't keep up. but now with more overhead games will grow in complexity.

but people with low-mid tier systems will see the most benefit as i understand it. mostly it lets games use more CPU cores so games with lots of physics will benefit more than others as well. but also we won't see the real benefits until games are made for dx12 and use the extra overhead. it's not required now, but in a year you'll probably be needing dx12 to keep up with newer games.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #587,459

@previous (squeegee)
Yeah, I was thinking that software getting progressively better might become an issue and eventually push people into switching to 10.

But still, by then the Internet will probably have a way to strip out all of Microsoft's tracking features, so hopefully it'll become a moot point.

hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,545

@587,285 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
I don't see the benefit to them, tbh. If they don't sell it, they're not gonna care.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,550

I feel tempted to update, but at the same time, I'm scared to lose 7.

Methlyfe replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,551

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
I imagine you could revert back to 7 if you wanted to. You might have to reformat though.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,553

@previous (Methlyfe)
I just saw a video and apparently there is an option in Windows 10 to revert back to Windows 7 for a month after you update.
I'm just scared I'd select a wipe completely and lose everything even if I read everything carefully. :-(

Methlyfe replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,555

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Nah, you're smarter than that. Give it a go.

squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,557

@previous (Methlyfe)
yeah, i like it so far. best thing is that it's actually pretty close to the 7 experience, and all the win 8 junk that confounds me every time i sit down at an 8 machine is gone. or at least made not-prominent. I made the switch and didn't miss a beat. felt more like an upgrade than an actual different OS. and so far i like it! well, at least i'm not upset about anything. like, windows 8 machines piss me off to no end.

Methlyfe replied with this 11 years ago, 35 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,567

@previous (squeegee)
I'm glad you made this topic, I was on the fence about upgrading until now. So far I've only put it on a laptop, but I like what I'm seeing.

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,568

@previous (Methlyfe)

Start8 superior start menu

squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,574

@587,567 (Methlyfe)
i was too, but after diving in i think i'm going to like it a lot

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM replied with this 11 years ago, 13 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,750

@587,555 (Methlyfe)
I started the update on my computer, but apparently it's stuck at "Working on it" and it's been an entire fucking night. -_-

brie replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,753

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
have you tried turning it off and on again? ^_^

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,756

@587,750 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
I hope you backed up your system before you started.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,773

@587,567 (Methlyfe)
are you going to get minecraft? your leg is broken, now is the time to phoenix the bird

squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,774

alright, the verdict is i like windows 10. it's got some nice features so far. I messed with cortana, the whole process makes you sync up an email account and sign in to microsoft and it's just not worth it. Cortana is kind of cool, but even with active listening and all that it's not a tool to work with. Like you can say, "hey cortana, [question]" and it'll do a bing search. it's practically useless, merely slightly convenient to say a random question. The more interesting part is that you can use it to open applications, so you can say, "hey cortana, [play music] or [open Grand Theft Auto 5]" and it will open those applications. But once you've done your search, or opened your music or game you can't then say, "Hey Cortana, [Stop music] or [End playback] or [close application] or [open first search result]." nothing like that at all. So it leaves a lot to be desired so far. I haven't messed with its scheduler and all of that, probably its "made for features" will work okay, but just using as an assistant to do general stuff it fails really hard at being useful. so far. i tried my damnedest to make it open up minichan.org but all it would do is search for minichan.org and then be useless.

i can see how they are wanting to incorporate it, but it's really far from primetime imho.

squeegee (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,775

that being said, i like the overall changes. The start menu is much better. it's actually got shit on the right click menu that's useful, task manager, device manager, control panel all on the same menu. it's nice. There's also a feature for syncing mobile devices and it syncs with android just fine. iOS stuff too. and it's all been made very accessible and might be useful. idk if that's all old hat for win 8 folks, but it's nice to see that they are working to play nice with android

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,776

@587,774 (squeegee)
Okay, but can Cortana transfer herself into a chip that you can shove into the back of your head, wherein she can guide you through missions?

Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,777

@587,156 (L)
@587,320 (DasSheeple)

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

squeegee (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,778

@587,776 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
no, i'm pretty sure that was just false advertizing. like the hololens. where the fuck is the hololens on this damn thing?

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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,787

@previous (squeegee)
That's DLC-exclusive content.

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,788

@587,553 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
back up your shit

Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,790

@587,787 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
> DLC

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,791

@587,031 (Dr.Ghost LouiePhD !uSk4BCgU1.)
How can I do this?

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #587,793

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/58464-Windows-Loader-Download

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 45 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #587,795

@previous (C)
> Supported operating systems

hmmm. the computer I want this for has Windows 7 Ultimate N

> click the thanks button to view this content
fuck

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 56 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #587,796

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Thank Mr skeltal

You can search the Google, just make sure hashes match

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Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #587,845

@587,777 (P)

> I'd just like to interject for a moment.

Don't get it on me

Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #587,913

@587,777 (P)
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as becky, is in fact, cat hair/becky, or as I've recently taken to calling it, cat hair plus becky. Becky is not a moderating system unto herself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning cat hair system made useful by the cat hair corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the cat hair system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of cat hair which is widely used today is often called becky, and many of MCs users are not aware that she is basically the cat hair system, developed by the Cat Hair Project.

There really is a becky, and these people are using her, but she is just a part of the system they use. Becky is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the moderating resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of a moderating system, but useless by herself; she can only function in the context of a complete moderating system. Becky is normally used in combination with the cat hair operating system: the whole system is basically cat hair with becky added, or cat hair/becky. All the so-called becky distributions are really distributions of cat hair/becky.

brrie replied with this 11 years ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #588,479

@previous (L)

> I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as becky, is in fact, cat hair/becky, or as I've recently taken to calling it, cat hair plus becky. Becky is not a moderating system unto herself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning cat hair system made useful by the cat hair corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
>
> Many computer users run a modified version of the cat hair system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of cat hair which is widely used today is often called becky, and many of MCs users are not aware that she is basically the cat hair system, developed by the Cat Hair Project.
>
> There really is a becky, and these people are using her, but she is just a part of the system they use. Becky is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the moderating resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of a moderating system, but useless by herself; she can only function in the context of a complete moderating system. Becky is normally used in combination with the cat hair operating system: the whole system is basically cat hair with becky added, or cat hair/becky. All the so-called becky distributions are really distributions of cat hair/becky.
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