Topic: Transgender MMA Fighter Destroys Female Opponent
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #43,946
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/transgender-mma-fighter-destroys-female-opponent/
Critics are scrutinizing mixed martial arts (MMA) competitor Fallon Fox, after the transgender fighter gave her opponent a concussion and broke her eye socket.
Fox defeated her opponent, Tamikka Brents, by TKO at 2:17 of the first round of their match. Brent’s eye injury resulted in a damaged orbital bone that required seven staples.
In a post-fight interview this week, Brents told Whoa TV, “I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life.”
“I’ve fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not, because I’m not a doctor,” she stated. “I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life, and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right. ”
Fox’s “grip was different,” Brents added. “I could usually move around in the clinch against…females but couldn’t move at all in Fox’s clinch.”
Fox defeated her opponent, Tamikka Brents, by TKO at 2:17 of the first round of their match. Brent’s eye injury resulted in a damaged orbital bone that required seven staples.
In a post-fight interview this week, Brents told Whoa TV, “I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life.”
“I’ve fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can’t answer whether it’s because she was born a man or not, because I’m not a doctor,” she stated. “I can only say, I’ve never felt so overpowered ever in my life, and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right. ”
Fox’s “grip was different,” Brents added. “I could usually move around in the clinch against…females but couldn’t move at all in Fox’s clinch.”
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later[^] [v] #580,521
inb4 kook
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,522
Fun fact HRT destroys most of your muscle and you lose most of your strength
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,523
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,526
I've read about this guy a few years ago, first thing I taught about was kook. He actually posted on some mma forum, got nothing but hate from everyone.
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,527
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 38 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,529
@580,526 (D)
People were mad because he hid the fact that he was trans even though they ask about it before fights.
People were mad because he hid the fact that he was trans even though they ask about it before fights.
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,531
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Yep, I think he expected to get some sympathy. But he actually started his post with profanity and accusing the female fighters of cowardice for not wanting to fight him. He pointed out that some of the women he's beaten were taller than him, lol.
Yep, I think he expected to get some sympathy. But he actually started his post with profanity and accusing the female fighters of cowardice for not wanting to fight him. He pointed out that some of the women he's beaten were taller than him, lol.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,532
@previous (D)
We're supposed to pretend that men become women as soon as they say they feel like women. So of course he was mad! None of those stuck up bitches would fight him.
We're supposed to pretend that men become women as soon as they say they feel like women. So of course he was mad! None of those stuck up bitches would fight him.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 39 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,533
Don't a lot of female MMA fighters take steroids and estrogen blockers?
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #580,534
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #580,538
in after kook
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #580,544
tranny fights with men = tranny gets wrecked
tranny fights with women= tranny wrecks her
they should make exclusive categories for trans fighters
tranny fights with women= tranny wrecks her
they should make exclusive categories for trans fighters
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #580,546
@580,533 (Metæ)
Not anymore. They've gotten pretty serious about ped's in the last couple of years. Alot of men and women have tested positive recently, and have gotten suspended. As of this month they're implementing stronger testing procedures, and 2 year suspensions.
Not anymore. They've gotten pretty serious about ped's in the last couple of years. Alot of men and women have tested positive recently, and have gotten suspended. As of this month they're implementing stronger testing procedures, and 2 year suspensions.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #580,547
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #580,549
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,552
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,555
A bunch of dudes in dresses pulling each others hair and squealing
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,564
@580,549 (G)
Go to Philly and tell Mr. Robert Wayne Stiles that ADF is calling him a fake tranny. You're welcome.
Go to Philly and tell Mr. Robert Wayne Stiles that ADF is calling him a fake tranny. You're welcome.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 24 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,587
Anonymous J double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,590
@580,564 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Christian Weston Chandler will always be the better human being when compared to ADF or Rika.
Christian Weston Chandler will always be the better human being when compared to ADF or Rika.
Digimon Digital Fuckface joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 47 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,608
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,610
Men are better at being women than women.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 47 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,612
preach it!@previous (WSD !m2cp3rR5zw)
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,615
@580,544 (G)
Or female fighters need to step up their game especially they look more like a tranny than the tranny does.
Or female fighters need to step up their game especially they look more like a tranny than the tranny does.
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,637
@580,527 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
She is an mma fighter obviously she has regained, but it doesn't match up to a male strength
The opponent is just butthurt because she lost hard
She is an mma fighter obviously she has regained, but it doesn't match up to a male strength
The opponent is just butthurt because she lost hard
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 29 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,646
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
Yeah it has nothing to do with the fact that she was lied to and fought a male.
Yeah it has nothing to do with the fact that she was lied to and fought a male.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 37 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,647
@580,637 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
Dude what
You realize cutting off your dick doesn't make you a woman, right
Dude what
You realize cutting off your dick doesn't make you a woman, right
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,650
@previous (A)
He thinks that this man who was a boxer before, lost all of his muscle mass during his transition, then gained it all back=woman
He thinks that this man who was a boxer before, lost all of his muscle mass during his transition, then gained it all back=woman
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 50 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,651
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Everyone should get to choose which gender they compete as! I want to play Little League again.
Everyone should get to choose which gender they compete as! I want to play Little League again.
(Edited 47 seconds later.)
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,652
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,656
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,659
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,660
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,661
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,663
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,664
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 54 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,667
pls ban the tranny obsession anons
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,671
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,672
@580,650 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
You can't gain it all back because you need the testosterone to build muscle like a man
He didn't just cut off his cock and start fighting, that's not how it works
Why am I even talking about this with you
You can't gain it all back because you need the testosterone to build muscle like a man
He didn't just cut off his cock and start fighting, that's not how it works
Why am I even talking about this with you
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,677
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,679
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Yes but the treatment involves losing a lot of muscle mass and becoming a lot weaker
SHE has probably trained very hard since the surgery to be a fighter again and she shouldn't have to be accused of cheating because her opponent thought she was hot shit but wasn't actually good enough
Yes but the treatment involves losing a lot of muscle mass and becoming a lot weaker
SHE has probably trained very hard since the surgery to be a fighter again and she shouldn't have to be accused of cheating because her opponent thought she was hot shit but wasn't actually good enough
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,682
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
He did cheat, one of the rules is that you have to be a bio female who has a regular menstraul cycle. You have no proof that his muscle mass literally shrunk to be comparable to a bio female.
He did cheat, one of the rules is that you have to be a bio female who has a regular menstraul cycle. You have no proof that his muscle mass literally shrunk to be comparable to a bio female.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,683
@580,646 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
This seems to imply that her sex change has been public knowledge in the MMA community since 2013. Presumably her biofemale opponent would have researched before the match and found this out and accepted the risk?
I mean if you were going to fight someone, you'd look up their history and stats and fighting style and strengths, weaknesses, signature moves, etc beforehand.
In 2013, after a 39-second knockout victory, Fox’s fifth straight first-round victory, it was revealed that Fox had not told the MMA community about her sex-change operation, which took place in 2006.
This seems to imply that her sex change has been public knowledge in the MMA community since 2013. Presumably her biofemale opponent would have researched before the match and found this out and accepted the risk?
I mean if you were going to fight someone, you'd look up their history and stats and fighting style and strengths, weaknesses, signature moves, etc beforehand.
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kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,684
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,687
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> It isnt up to the other people in a competition to check for cheaters.
I don't know how or why she was allowed to stay in the women's category after the revelation. Not even how MMA leagues work. But what I mean is, in researching an opponent something major like a sex change is bound to come up right?
I wonder how much of this is due to male brain wiring vs. muscle. I don't think most women have violence in them.
> It isnt up to the other people in a competition to check for cheaters.
I don't know how or why she was allowed to stay in the women's category after the revelation. Not even how MMA leagues work. But what I mean is, in researching an opponent something major like a sex change is bound to come up right?
I wonder how much of this is due to male brain wiring vs. muscle. I don't think most women have violence in them.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,688
Trans people of Minichan! Shouldnt we just make all sports/competitions unisex? Where everyone competes against everyone?
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 40 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,689
@580,687 (Metæ)
It's probably a bit of both, and if I were her I'd be firing my manager after that debacle.
It's probably a bit of both, and if I were her I'd be firing my manager after that debacle.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 59 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,694
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Okay, the OP article was (as usual) missing some pertinent info.
March 5, 2013: Fallon Fox comes out in a Sports Illustrated interview: http://www.si.com/mma/2013/03/05/fallon-fox-transgender-mma
April 10, 2014 UFC womens champion Ronda Rousey weighs in on the controversy:
http://nypost.com/2013/04/10/ufc-womens-champ-rousey-weighs-in-on-transgender-fighter-controversy/
May 15, 2103: NY Times article: For Transgender Fighter Fallon Fox, There is Solace in the Cage http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/sports/for-transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-there-is-solace-in-the-cage.html
May 24, 2013 Time article: Should A Former Man Be Able To Fight Women?
September 19, 2014: Rousey won't fight transgendered MMAer Fallon Fox.
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/09/19/rousey-wont-fight-transgendered-mmaer-fallon-fox
There's probably more, but I digress. My point is, it appears that Fox's transgender history was no big secret, and well known in the MMA world, and that Tamikka Brents knew (or should have known) and accepted the risk. MMA is a violent sport, people get hurt and the participants understand and accept that risk.
Okay, the OP article was (as usual) missing some pertinent info.
March 5, 2013: Fallon Fox comes out in a Sports Illustrated interview: http://www.si.com/mma/2013/03/05/fallon-fox-transgender-mma
April 10, 2014 UFC womens champion Ronda Rousey weighs in on the controversy:
Rousey, the UFC women’s bantamweight champion, said she would fight Fox if the UFC asked her to, but she believes that Fox “has a physical advantage” because she was born a man.
Rousey says she’s researched the topic extensively and has come to an informed opinion.
“She can try hormones, chop her pecker off, but it’s still the same bone structure a man has,” Rousey told The Post. “It’s an advantage. I don’t think it’s fair.”
Rousey says she’s researched the topic extensively and has come to an informed opinion.
“She can try hormones, chop her pecker off, but it’s still the same bone structure a man has,” Rousey told The Post. “It’s an advantage. I don’t think it’s fair.”
http://nypost.com/2013/04/10/ufc-womens-champ-rousey-weighs-in-on-transgender-fighter-controversy/
May 15, 2103: NY Times article: For Transgender Fighter Fallon Fox, There is Solace in the Cage http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/05/13/sports/for-transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-there-is-solace-in-the-cage.html
May 24, 2013 Time article: Should A Former Man Be Able To Fight Women?
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) fighter Matt Mitrione called Fox a “lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak. And I mean that.” The UFC suspended Mitrione for 16 days, and fined him an undisclosed amount. “She can try hormones, chop her pecker off, but it’s still the same bone structure a man has,” UFC star Ronda Rousey told the New York Post. “It’s an advantage. I don’t think it’s fair.”
September 19, 2014: Rousey won't fight transgendered MMAer Fallon Fox.
And while she told TMZ this week she can “knockout anyone in the world,” there’s a reason she’s shying away from a potential bout with Fox, a 38-year-old who once served in the U.S. Navy as a man.
“It’s a case by case scenario thing,” Rousey said of her transgendered challenger. “I’ve tried to research it a lot. I feel like if you go through puberty as a man it’s not something you can reverse ... There’s no undo button on that.”
“It’s a case by case scenario thing,” Rousey said of her transgendered challenger. “I’ve tried to research it a lot. I feel like if you go through puberty as a man it’s not something you can reverse ... There’s no undo button on that.”
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/09/19/rousey-wont-fight-transgendered-mmaer-fallon-fox
There's probably more, but I digress. My point is, it appears that Fox's transgender history was no big secret, and well known in the MMA world, and that Tamikka Brents knew (or should have known) and accepted the risk. MMA is a violent sport, people get hurt and the participants understand and accept that risk.
(Edited 3 minutes later.)
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,695
@previous (Metæ)
I dont think she knew, and they might as well make it all unisex, if they'll allow this type of thing.
I dont think she knew, and they might as well make it all unisex, if they'll allow this type of thing.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,697
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
With SI and Time and the New York Times I don't know how it could have been any more public. But no, unisex sports would become men's sports because women would not be able to win.
With SI and Time and the New York Times I don't know how it could have been any more public. But no, unisex sports would become men's sports because women would not be able to win.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,700
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,701
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,702
@580,637 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
> The opponent is just butthurt because she lost hard
We're not talking tennis here. It's a pretty extreme sport, just a few months ago one of the top ranked women got her orbital bone broken in the first round. The truth is that none of the women want to fight transexuals, it's not just one "butthurt" individual. This is not the sport for social experimentation.
> The opponent is just butthurt because she lost hard
We're not talking tennis here. It's a pretty extreme sport, just a few months ago one of the top ranked women got her orbital bone broken in the first round. The truth is that none of the women want to fight transexuals, it's not just one "butthurt" individual. This is not the sport for social experimentation.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,703
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,704
Before we know it, women haters are going to fake being transsexual only to beat them up in tournaments
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,705
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,706
@580,702 (D)
We're supposed to pretend that the hormones reduced Fallon Fox to being just like any other female.
We're supposed to pretend that the hormones reduced Fallon Fox to being just like any other female.
kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 11 years ago, 42 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,707
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Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,710
@580,695 (kook !!mCVqftDha)> I don't think she knew
Don't women have tranny sensing abilities? Like, even without the public coming out and all the media attention and the MMA women's champion saying she wouldnt fight Fox, wouldn't a biofemale be able to sense something's "off" about her skeleton and facial structure?
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 15 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,711
Lol, people always say Rhonda Rousey could beat men, but a transwomen is "too strong" lol.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,712
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 34 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,713
kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 11 years ago, 25 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,714
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,716
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,719
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,721
Just abolish all violent sports and be done with it, jesus fucking christ.
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,722
@580,719 (kook !!mCVqftDha)Ericka Newsome
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,723
@580,712 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Many have gotten caught. I believe most elite athletes take some form of steroids, and either just cycle when they're not going to compete and not be likely to be tested.
Many have gotten caught. I believe most elite athletes take some form of steroids, and either just cycle when they're not going to compete and not be likely to be tested.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,726
@previous (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
I agree. I think that we should have super versions of sports that allow and mandate steroid use.
I agree. I think that we should have super versions of sports that allow and mandate steroid use.
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 35 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,727
kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 11 years ago, 17 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,728
@580,721 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
People need to get out their aggression and people need to be entertained. I think that most sports players should be forced to use steroids and kept in a secure complex where they cant hurt civilians.
People need to get out their aggression and people need to be entertained. I think that most sports players should be forced to use steroids and kept in a secure complex where they cant hurt civilians.
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,738
@580,706 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
They have weight classes for a reason. Some of the smaller weight classes are only seperated by 10 lb. If you come in more than a pound over, you forfeit 20% of your purse. The whole point is to try make the fight as fair as possible. It's just insane that anyone would consider a man fighting a woman a sport.
They have weight classes for a reason. Some of the smaller weight classes are only seperated by 10 lb. If you come in more than a pound over, you forfeit 20% of your purse. The whole point is to try make the fight as fair as possible. It's just insane that anyone would consider a man fighting a woman a sport.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,740
@580,713 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Tamikka Brents knew Fox was a tranny. (May 25, 2013)
So Tamikka knew Fox was trans, and "wanted the fight bad". I think the evidence is clear that Tamikka Brents understood Fox was born male, and willingly took the risk of fighting him.
Tamikka Brents knew Fox was a tranny. (May 25, 2013)
Statement from Tamikka Brents:
“I am tired of Fox getting all this publicity just for being a transgender fighter rather than having great skills. I think it’s unfair anyway but as long as the opponent knows and accepts the fight then go ahead… I mean Allana took her to the third and she’s not even a 145er; she’s a more of a 135er who can probably go even lower to 125 pounds. She’s using all that attention as a good publicity tactic – go ahead and ride that free publicity train as long as you can. I’ll gladly derail that s#*t quickly so the world can go back to giving the publicity and notice to the female fighters who earn it. It just pisses me off that Women’s MMA has fought to get away from being seen as a side show. She’s using that to further her career while setting Women’s MMA back in the process.”
http://www.intimidationmma.com/intimidation-clothing-sponsored-tamikka-brents-calls-out-fallon-fox-i-want-the-fight-bad/“I am tired of Fox getting all this publicity just for being a transgender fighter rather than having great skills. I think it’s unfair anyway but as long as the opponent knows and accepts the fight then go ahead… I mean Allana took her to the third and she’s not even a 145er; she’s a more of a 135er who can probably go even lower to 125 pounds. She’s using all that attention as a good publicity tactic – go ahead and ride that free publicity train as long as you can. I’ll gladly derail that s#*t quickly so the world can go back to giving the publicity and notice to the female fighters who earn it. It just pisses me off that Women’s MMA has fought to get away from being seen as a side show. She’s using that to further her career while setting Women’s MMA back in the process.”
So Tamikka knew Fox was trans, and "wanted the fight bad". I think the evidence is clear that Tamikka Brents understood Fox was born male, and willingly took the risk of fighting him.
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hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 21 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,741
@580,738 (D)
What about this for a sport. A man and woman start in a room, the woman gets paid 1 million if she can escape the room, the guy gets 10k if he is able to orgasm inside her (or the woman taps out).
It would be called "Trigger Warning"
What about this for a sport. A man and woman start in a room, the woman gets paid 1 million if she can escape the room, the guy gets 10k if he is able to orgasm inside her (or the woman taps out).
It would be called "Trigger Warning"
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,742
@580,740 (Metæ)
lol Then she didnt realize that she was going to be fighting a man, because she believbed the sjw narrative. I no longer feel bad for her.
lol Then she didnt realize that she was going to be fighting a man, because she believbed the sjw narrative. I no longer feel bad for her.
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 43 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,743
@580,740 (Metæ)
Lol. So I guess now she is admitting women's mma is a sideshow.
Rhonda Rousey is fun to watch cause its a ride. She's undefeated and finishes her opponents fast. It's absurd to expect any women's sport that isn't young girls in leotards or beach volleyball getting as much attention as the men's side. There's just a huge divide in athleticism.
Lol. So I guess now she is admitting women's mma is a sideshow.
Rhonda Rousey is fun to watch cause its a ride. She's undefeated and finishes her opponents fast. It's absurd to expect any women's sport that isn't young girls in leotards or beach volleyball getting as much attention as the men's side. There's just a huge divide in athleticism.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 50 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,744
@580,738 (D)
Some people like to delude themselves about the differences betweeen males and females.
Some people like to delude themselves about the differences betweeen males and females.
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,756
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,759
@previous (D)
> I think bill Cosby already invented a version of this.
He claims he didnt, and by law we must trust the word of a man until 38 women speak out against him.
He's only up to about 2 dozen.
> I think bill Cosby already invented a version of this.
He claims he didnt, and by law we must trust the word of a man until 38 women speak out against him.
He's only up to about 2 dozen.
squeegette joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,769
@580,711 (hater !JGlOo5d1iU)
actually ask rhonda Rousy about that. She freely admits she'd lose to most men and refuse to every fight a man in an exhibition fight (which is something people want to see).
she'll never, ever fight a man. because she's not stupid. also her mom won't let her.
> “That’s a stupid idea,” De Mars said. “Seriously, that’s a stupid idea. I’m as much a feminist as anyone but the fact is that biologically, there’s a difference between men and women.
video of Rhonda explaining how she'd not fight Floyd Mayweather in a stand up fight
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/brendan-schaub-ian-mccall-differ-on-ronda-rousey-vs-men-debate-030615?vid=184726595525
actually ask rhonda Rousy about that. She freely admits she'd lose to most men and refuse to every fight a man in an exhibition fight (which is something people want to see).
she'll never, ever fight a man. because she's not stupid. also her mom won't let her.
> “That’s a stupid idea,” De Mars said. “Seriously, that’s a stupid idea. I’m as much a feminist as anyone but the fact is that biologically, there’s a difference between men and women.
video of Rhonda explaining how she'd not fight Floyd Mayweather in a stand up fight
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/brendan-schaub-ian-mccall-differ-on-ronda-rousey-vs-men-debate-030615?vid=184726595525
(Edited 6 minutes later.)
Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,819
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,838
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,857
@580,769 (squeegette)
A shame. She could have been one of the greatest fighters in mixed martial arts.
She ain't no bitch. She'd train her ass off so she'd be able to kick some of the men's ass.
To think she'd lose just because her opponent is a man is extremely sexist and whomever thinks that way must be euthanized.
A shame. She could have been one of the greatest fighters in mixed martial arts.
She ain't no bitch. She'd train her ass off so she'd be able to kick some of the men's ass.
To think she'd lose just because her opponent is a man is extremely sexist and whomever thinks that way must be euthanized.
Anonymous J double-posted this 11 years ago, 55 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,858
Digimon Digital Fuckface replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,860
that takes balls to cut off your dick so you can beat up a woman
hater !JGlOo5d1iU replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,865
@580,858 (J)
Well, then they could easily escape/climax without a struggle. I doubt it would, though people have died in fights.
Well, then they could easily escape/climax without a struggle. I doubt it would, though people have died in fights.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,950
@580,857 (J)
> To think she'd lose just because her opponent is a man is extremely sexist and whomever thinks that way must be euthanized.
Holy shit. Oh my god. Lol.
> To think she'd lose just because her opponent is a man is extremely sexist and whomever thinks that way must be euthanized.
Holy shit. Oh my god. Lol.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #580,997
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #581,002
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,005
@580,742 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I had an idea like that but I would also like the man to take viagra before the event and also a time release sedative. So that he wouldhave a raging hard on for thes struggle and would also have his senses and relexes dulled.
I had an idea like that but I would also like the man to take viagra before the event and also a time release sedative. So that he wouldhave a raging hard on for thes struggle and would also have his senses and relexes dulled.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,007
@580,742 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Fox's hormones were in the range for women, and she was 8 years post SRS at the time of the fight. Brents and Fox were also in the same weight class and Fox's height of 5'7" isn't terribly tall for a woman. So where was the advantage? Does skeletal shape really matter that much? Or was it psychological? They said bone density was a thing but wouldn't heavier limbs be slower? I don't know enough about biology to work this out.
Fox's hormones were in the range for women, and she was 8 years post SRS at the time of the fight. Brents and Fox were also in the same weight class and Fox's height of 5'7" isn't terribly tall for a woman. So where was the advantage? Does skeletal shape really matter that much? Or was it psychological? They said bone density was a thing but wouldn't heavier limbs be slower? I don't know enough about biology to work this out.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,008
@previous (Metæ)
They might be slower but they are probably heavier and more powerful. A serious question,are you okay with all bio males participating in womens sports or just the ones that cut off their dicks?
Also why are you worried about trannies never winning against other males but not worried about women never winning against trannies?
They might be slower but they are probably heavier and more powerful. A serious question,are you okay with all bio males participating in womens sports or just the ones that cut off their dicks?
Also why are you worried about trannies never winning against other males but not worried about women never winning against trannies?
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,009
I would do her
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,011
@581,008 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> A serious question,are you okay with all bio males participating in womens sports or just the ones that cut off their dicks?
No. I think it's tremendously unfair for a male to compete in women's sports, for the obvious reasons. I don't know how or why the MMA club is allowing this but it will make a mockery of the sport.
I don't think transwomen should be in women's sports but I don't run the MMA and if that's how they want to run things then I don't know what to say.
That being said, Tamikka Brents knew she was fighting a biological male and said she "wanted the fight bad", and if she willingly chose that, knowing about the trans thing then I think we should respect her decision.
> Also why are you worried about trannies never winning against other males but not worried about women never winning against trannies?
I don't care who wins, and I don't give a damn about sports either way. I just was surprised that a male, even years after castration and hormone therapy would still have such an advantage.
> A serious question,are you okay with all bio males participating in womens sports or just the ones that cut off their dicks?
No. I think it's tremendously unfair for a male to compete in women's sports, for the obvious reasons. I don't know how or why the MMA club is allowing this but it will make a mockery of the sport.
I don't think transwomen should be in women's sports but I don't run the MMA and if that's how they want to run things then I don't know what to say.
That being said, Tamikka Brents knew she was fighting a biological male and said she "wanted the fight bad", and if she willingly chose that, knowing about the trans thing then I think we should respect her decision.
> Also why are you worried about trannies never winning against other males but not worried about women never winning against trannies?
I don't care who wins, and I don't give a damn about sports either way. I just was surprised that a male, even years after castration and hormone therapy would still have such an advantage.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,013
@581,007 (Metæ)
> Does skeletal shape really matter that much?
Yes.
Heavier limbs are not necessarily slower when it comes to hitting. Velocity is an integral part of power, it's not like on videogames where strong guys move like glaciers. Watch heavyweights fighting, their punches and kicks are just as fast, if not faster as a lightweight's, and pack a lot more power.
Heavier bones also means you can take more punishment, blocking incoming hits is easier on your body.
Even if she's has muscles and hormones normal for a (roided) woman, her body structure didn't change. Broader shoulder, strong chin, heavier bones, all these things give her an advantage over biowomen.
> Does skeletal shape really matter that much?
Yes.
Heavier limbs are not necessarily slower when it comes to hitting. Velocity is an integral part of power, it's not like on videogames where strong guys move like glaciers. Watch heavyweights fighting, their punches and kicks are just as fast, if not faster as a lightweight's, and pack a lot more power.
Heavier bones also means you can take more punishment, blocking incoming hits is easier on your body.
Even if she's has muscles and hormones normal for a (roided) woman, her body structure didn't change. Broader shoulder, strong chin, heavier bones, all these things give her an advantage over biowomen.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,014
@581,011 (Metæ)
Oh because you made a post saying that trannies shouldn't have to fight with the men because they would always lose.
And no I dont feel bad for that woman. She knew he was a man before the fight, and didnt understand what that meant. Thats her fault.
Oh because you made a post saying that trannies shouldn't have to fight with the men because they would always lose.
And no I dont feel bad for that woman. She knew he was a man before the fight, and didnt understand what that meant. Thats her fault.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,017
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> Oh because you made a post saying that trannies shouldn't have to fight with the men because they would always lose.
What? Where?
I mean, I think an MtF trans would not be able to compete in men's MMA but I've never said they should be allowed in the women's league.
> Oh because you made a post saying that trannies shouldn't have to fight with the men because they would always lose.
What? Where?
I mean, I think an MtF trans would not be able to compete in men's MMA but I've never said they should be allowed in the women's league.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,022
@previous (Metæ)
You said something like, "But they would always lose" maybe I misread the statement.
You said something like, "But they would always lose" maybe I misread the statement.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,025
100 get
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,028
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,034
@581,017 (Metæ)
Are men and women not equals? Are women not capable of the same feats as men with proper training?
Stop holding back feminism.
Are men and women not equals? Are women not capable of the same feats as men with proper training?
Stop holding back feminism.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,050
@previous (J)
> Are men and women not equals?
They are equals before the law and in society but sexual dimorphism means that in most athletic events men do significantly better than women. That doesn't mean men are better than women, it just means they have more muscle, more lung capacity, larger hearts, heavier bones, etc. It's like asking "are trucks better than cars?" If you want to move tons of concrete than yes, but if you want to travel in comfort and want a maneuverable agile vehicle, then no. They're different tools for different jobs and it's pointless to argue which is better.
> Are men and women not equals?
They are equals before the law and in society but sexual dimorphism means that in most athletic events men do significantly better than women. That doesn't mean men are better than women, it just means they have more muscle, more lung capacity, larger hearts, heavier bones, etc. It's like asking "are trucks better than cars?" If you want to move tons of concrete than yes, but if you want to travel in comfort and want a maneuverable agile vehicle, then no. They're different tools for different jobs and it's pointless to argue which is better.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,093
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,094
@580,744 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
In case you're not sick of this particular topic, here's a link to a story about him and a thread he started on an mma forum titled: snappin arms and breaking faces.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/447885/Fallon-Fox-on-Cris-Justino-Were-both-women-but-she-cheats/
In case you're not sick of this particular topic, here's a link to a story about him and a thread he started on an mma forum titled: snappin arms and breaking faces.
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/447885/Fallon-Fox-on-Cris-Justino-Were-both-women-but-she-cheats/
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,095
@581,050 (Metæ)
Humans are not automobiles, you damn kook.
And I know plenty of men who are not qualify for such hard labor.
Humans are not automobiles, you damn kook.
And I know plenty of men who are not qualify for such hard labor.
Anonymous J double-posted this 11 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,096
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,098
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,099
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,101
"i dont know if she was male or female because im not a doctor"
neither am i but i know he's a guy
neither am i but i know he's a guy
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,105
@581,095 (J)
This. I get what Meta was saying, but I think it was a bit one-dimensional. Yes there's generally a gendered biological advantage in play, but life experience or other biological factors can be influences too.
Some men just might not be suited to fighting or physical feats at all. Some women might be. You can't just reduce it all down to gender.
This. I get what Meta was saying, but I think it was a bit one-dimensional. Yes there's generally a gendered biological advantage in play, but life experience or other biological factors can be influences too.
Some men just might not be suited to fighting or physical feats at all. Some women might be. You can't just reduce it all down to gender.
(Edited 31 seconds later.)
Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,106
Ronda says she would fight Fallon and win if she had to.
https://youtu.be/uQs0qxcp4WM
@581,099 (G)
They're still men, stay mad.
https://youtu.be/uQs0qxcp4WM
@581,099 (G)
They're still men, stay mad.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,108
@581,105 (RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Some men just might not be suited to fighting or physical feats at all. Some women might be. You can't just reduce it all down to gender.
This. I would never win a fight with the female MMA champions even though as a male I have higher muscle mass or bone density or a heavier frame or a longer arm or whatever because I have zero fighting training and am somewhat overweight. But can the best female MMA fighters compete with the best male ones? Er not so much so good.
Also I don't care for fighting.
> Some men just might not be suited to fighting or physical feats at all. Some women might be. You can't just reduce it all down to gender.
This. I would never win a fight with the female MMA champions even though as a male I have higher muscle mass or bone density or a heavier frame or a longer arm or whatever because I have zero fighting training and am somewhat overweight. But can the best female MMA fighters compete with the best male ones? Er not so much so good.
Also I don't care for fighting.
(Edited 59 seconds later.)
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,119
@previous (Metæ)
Right, right, I'm not disputing the idea that a man in peak physical condition would probably beat a woman in peak condition. I just think it's cucial to think holistically about this stuff.
Right, right, I'm not disputing the idea that a man in peak physical condition would probably beat a woman in peak condition. I just think it's cucial to think holistically about this stuff.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #581,121
We need a new sport with giant exoskeletons so you can all shut the fuck up about sexual dimorphism and then bio men and women could compete against trannies without there being an unfair advantage.
Anonymous R replied with this 11 years ago, 19 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #581,424
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #581,488
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