Topic: Please name one specific "freedom" that Americans have...
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #43,688
...that no other country has (especially Western European countries).
Triptych joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #577,158
Guns come to mind they're not really the same anywhere else in western Europe
People always cite Suisse but that's different cause you can't buy ammo
People always cite Suisse but that's different cause you can't buy ammo
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,159
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,162
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,164
Triptych replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,165
@577,162 (A)
Uh every country has a slightly different mixture of rights you'll never be able to point at one and point out one right it has that no other country does
Uh every country has a slightly different mixture of rights you'll never be able to point at one and point out one right it has that no other country does
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 47 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,166
America is (generally) good. Thanks.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,167
No one so far has named a specific freedom that the US has that others do not. Why, then, do Americans go around screaming FREEDOM and LIBERTY?
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,168
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,169
Triptych replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,170
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,171
@previous (Triptych)
It is a valid point, yes, but I am really talking about USAmericans who think they are "the only free country".
It is a valid point, yes, but I am really talking about USAmericans who think they are "the only free country".
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,172
Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 13 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,173
Marsden William "Bill" Miller joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 26 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,174
Posting in a shit tier troll thread
Marsden William "Bill" Miller double-posted this 11 years ago, 18 seconds later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #577,175
Thanks.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 57 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #577,183
We have generally the most protected speech out of any country. Also we produce the most pornography which is probably some kind of freedom.
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 57 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,186
Freedom to publicly insult religion. In Britain you can get arrested for that.
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,188
Also our states are legalizing marijuana one by one. What about Britain?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,189
@577,171 (A)
Well, in America, we're free to insult people without being sued for libel.
Well, in America, we're free to insult people without being sued for libel.
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kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,192
In America we're allowed to have proper pepperspray, in Britain not so much.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,193
most walmarts have motorized scooters now
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,194
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,196
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
i bet he got bleary-eyed all the way to the bank. poor fella. but yeah, actually, from what i heard he was a boss that looked after his company image and took care of his staff. but then it ballooned into 9000 stores and it grew into it's own behemoth organism. i bet towards the end sam walton was pretty detached from the day-to-day. If he went walking through one today he might not like it.
i bet he got bleary-eyed all the way to the bank. poor fella. but yeah, actually, from what i heard he was a boss that looked after his company image and took care of his staff. but then it ballooned into 9000 stores and it grew into it's own behemoth organism. i bet towards the end sam walton was pretty detached from the day-to-day. If he went walking through one today he might not like it.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 32 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,199
The freedom to fly the Confederate flag! Freedom for cops to shoot black people!
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,202
@577,186 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Source on the religion thing? As far as I know, we are fine with allowing outspoken atheism. Dawkins is from here, after all.
Source on the religion thing? As far as I know, we are fine with allowing outspoken atheism. Dawkins is from here, after all.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,203
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,204
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Dawkins, FuckAlms. Dawkins. Who has gotten reputation for being quite harsh and indiscriminate in criticising religion in general.
@577,188 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
@577,192 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Do you think a Brit made this thread?
Dawkins, FuckAlms. Dawkins. Who has gotten reputation for being quite harsh and indiscriminate in criticising religion in general.
@577,188 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
@577,192 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Do you think a Brit made this thread?
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,212
@577,202 (RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx)
Ive seen stories where people get arrested for saying anti muslim stuff in public.
Ive seen stories where people get arrested for saying anti muslim stuff in public.
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 43 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,213
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,214
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Then why go for Britain specifically? Lots of other countries around the world will have those same sorts of laws.
Did you want to hurt us? Did you want to make us cry?
Then why go for Britain specifically? Lots of other countries around the world will have those same sorts of laws.
Did you want to hurt us? Did you want to make us cry?
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,215
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,216
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> no other country
> only first world countries
Not what the OP says...
> no other country
> only first world countries
Not what the OP says...
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 35 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,217
Triptych replied with this 11 years ago, 41 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,218
Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,219
@577,217 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
That's not even what this this topic is about. Your're supposed to come up with any specific freedom that NO OTHER COUNTRY has.
This isn't about America having more or better freedom than one specific country. In order to 'beat' the OP, you need to name a freedom that is USA-Exclusive.
That's not even what this this topic is about. Your're supposed to come up with any specific freedom that NO OTHER COUNTRY has.
This isn't about America having more or better freedom than one specific country. In order to 'beat' the OP, you need to name a freedom that is USA-Exclusive.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 18 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,220
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,221
@577,219 (L)
Not that there's much reason to try and "beat" the OP anyway. It's a very loaded question to begin with.
Not that there's much reason to try and "beat" the OP anyway. It's a very loaded question to begin with.
Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,222
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,243
It has become official....
This is a Matt Shtick Thread....
This is a Matt Shtick Thread....
Triptych replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,244
@577,220 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Medicinal and there's a huge amount of tolerance
Like we have a weekly festival where thousands of people gather in a parc and get stoned and nobody cares
Medicinal and there's a huge amount of tolerance
Like we have a weekly festival where thousands of people gather in a parc and get stoned and nobody cares
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,246
@577,221 (RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx)
I learnt what a loaded question was from King of the Hill I tell you hwat.
I learnt what a loaded question was from King of the Hill I tell you hwat.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 31 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,251
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 25 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,260
Freedom of speech and freedom to browse several internet sites.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,264
@577,204 (RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx)
I don't give a shit if one person or a thousand people thinks atheism is about attacking religion, they're just being ignorant.
I don't give a shit if one person or a thousand people thinks atheism is about attacking religion, they're just being ignorant.
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 32 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,268
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
I think you're missing my point. I'm saying that Dawkins, who is quite vocal about criticising religion, indicates that England tolerates criticism of religion.
I think you're missing my point. I'm saying that Dawkins, who is quite vocal about criticising religion, indicates that England tolerates criticism of religion.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,271
@previous (RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx)
oh, I thought you were saying that he is the be-all end-all definition of what an atheist is.
oh, I thought you were saying that he is the be-all end-all definition of what an atheist is.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,275
freedom of the motherfuckin press
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,281
i can worship the falun gong if i want.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,283
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,288
@previous (Metæ)
The Chinese government is, surely, entirely incompetent if they allow such a blatant Falun Gong member to so openly live and operate in one of their cities?
The Chinese government is, surely, entirely incompetent if they allow such a blatant Falun Gong member to so openly live and operate in one of their cities?
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,290
@577,183 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
not if the SJWs win
if the SJWs win you have to think your speech out before you say it, because people might react to it, and thats kinda censorship, i guess.
not if the SJWs win
if the SJWs win you have to think your speech out before you say it, because people might react to it, and thats kinda censorship, i guess.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,295
@577,288 (RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx)He has, in fact, literally, it has been said, praytell bribed them $100,000 a day to not inspect the Li Hongzhi "fireworks factory" too closely.
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RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,297
@previous (Metæ)
Ah, right. And given their current economic shortcomings, I can see how a bribe would work.
Ah, right. And given their current economic shortcomings, I can see how a bribe would work.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,299
@577,290 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
The Strawberry Jam Worshippers? I didn't know they were such a potent political force. Also we are talking legislation here I think so even if the fruity spread lovers wanted that to happen, you can't really write a law that says "think before you speak and be nice please, or else."
The Strawberry Jam Worshippers? I didn't know they were such a potent political force. Also we are talking legislation here I think so even if the fruity spread lovers wanted that to happen, you can't really write a law that says "think before you speak and be nice please, or else."
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,342
So, not a single post has yet been able to name a freedom that the US has, that no other country has.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,344
@previous (A)
it's cool if countries copy us. we can always say we had these freedoms first. and that's what really matters, doesn't it.
it's cool if countries copy us. we can always say we had these freedoms first. and that's what really matters, doesn't it.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,348
@previous (squeegee)
But that is not true. Other countries have been around much longer, and the US did not have those freedoms first. My point stands: you are no "freer" than anyone else, despite your endless yelling and boasting about "freedom".
But that is not true. Other countries have been around much longer, and the US did not have those freedoms first. My point stands: you are no "freer" than anyone else, despite your endless yelling and boasting about "freedom".
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,350
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,352
My guess is @OP is thinking of the second amendment whereupon he will go "oh my god look at all the firearm homicides! Isn't America terrible!?" The only other thing I can think of is the right to question the Holocaust (see: Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala the black French comedian who's been convicted eight times of antisemitism for joking about the holocaust and was arrested in the midst of the Je Suis Charlie thing for posting on Facebook "tonight I feel like Charlie Couliaby".)
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #577,357
@577,348 (A)
it is widely acknowledged that the US has the oldest living government.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/aug/08/jon-huntsman/oldest-surviving-one-document-text/
So basically all governments that exist today don't predate the formation of the US, they have been fundamentally altered since then and no longer function as they did.
Yeah, other countries have been around longer, but their governments haven't. and most of them are now based on the US anyway. just look at Britain, lose a few colonies and a suddenly the parliament is on control of everything just a few generations later. AND the monarchy has no real power and even lacks influence. that is certainly not how the british empire was run in 1775. And yet the Federal system has undergone no significant changes in all that time.
it is widely acknowledged that the US has the oldest living government.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/aug/08/jon-huntsman/oldest-surviving-one-document-text/
At 222 years old, America’s governing document is broadly considered the world’s longest surviving constitution, according to Dr. Steven Frank, the Constitution Center’s chief historian.
Ratified in 1789, it beats out Norway’s constitution, which took effect in 1814 and Belgium's, implemented in 1831, according to a list compiled by Tom Ginsburg and Rosalind Dixon, constitutional law professors at the University of Chicago.
"It's the most durable constitution in the world today," said Frank, of the Constitution Center. "Historians agree. It's been around longer than any other written constitution."
Historians and legal scholars alike may debate the definition, but most of us are clear in our concept of a constitution as a single governing document. As long as that’s the case, there is little room for argument. The U.S. Constitution is the longest surviving constitution in the world. Still, there are other countries that have multiple governing documents that are older than the U.S. Constitution.
Ratified in 1789, it beats out Norway’s constitution, which took effect in 1814 and Belgium's, implemented in 1831, according to a list compiled by Tom Ginsburg and Rosalind Dixon, constitutional law professors at the University of Chicago.
"It's the most durable constitution in the world today," said Frank, of the Constitution Center. "Historians agree. It's been around longer than any other written constitution."
Historians and legal scholars alike may debate the definition, but most of us are clear in our concept of a constitution as a single governing document. As long as that’s the case, there is little room for argument. The U.S. Constitution is the longest surviving constitution in the world. Still, there are other countries that have multiple governing documents that are older than the U.S. Constitution.
So basically all governments that exist today don't predate the formation of the US, they have been fundamentally altered since then and no longer function as they did.
Yeah, other countries have been around longer, but their governments haven't. and most of them are now based on the US anyway. just look at Britain, lose a few colonies and a suddenly the parliament is on control of everything just a few generations later. AND the monarchy has no real power and even lacks influence. that is certainly not how the british empire was run in 1775. And yet the Federal system has undergone no significant changes in all that time.