dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#575,124
I agree! I notice this a lot in interviews at E3 and stuff. I think I even made a thread about it on the fora.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,126
So... I don't think this really grinds my gears.
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,128
So what's the big deal?
TTEH !FFSTTEHV7. joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,129
Not really. It's a filler word, like "um", "just", "actually", "basically", etc. They can be annoying when you focus on them or give them undue weight, but they've always existed in their various forms. Everybody uses them.
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 48 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,130
@previous (TTEH !FFSTTEHV7.)
Now I remember. I talked about it in the IRC and then I was annoyed with tteh for making this same comment.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 15 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,132
Is the ... meant as a trailing silence or do you specifically take issue with people that begin a sentence with the word "so"?
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 39 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,134
No, it isnt annoying at all.
TTEH !FFSTTEHV7. replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,141
Metæ (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,148
@575,132 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
The ellipses are a stand in for the actual answer. Here's an example of what I'm talking about.
Interviewer: Mr. Zuckerberg, what are your plans for Facebook going into 2016
Zuckerberg: So, were planning on increasing internet access in Africa blablablablablabla.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#575,160
@previous (Metæ)
Ok, yeah I see now. It makes it sound like they're pitching it to investors or someone who otherwise has inside knowledge of the company.
(Edited 13 seconds later.)
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,274
so, probably one thing you're noticing is that a lot of times when people open a statement with "so..." is that it's immediately followed by an explanation. So, it can feel a bit condescending to read it when someone is presenting themselves as having to explain the knowledge they have and other people are now needing to have it explained to them.
so, it's a really great way to make people feel that they are being spoken to by some authority.
it's subtle, and probably not the only reason or "way" that "so..." is being used, but that's one thing i notice about it is that people who do open a statement like that end up coming off as a pretentious prick or know-it-all. so, keep that in your trolling-kit, cowboy
penthief !e6iiu.pZHU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,298
I say it too much, so thanks for pointing it out.
Starting a written sentence "um" is something I can get irritated by fora similar reason.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,304
That makes a lot of sense, some good perception you have there. But when i do it, and i do it a lot, its more like to make the words fit smoother together. If i would not say so a lot then i would be all drowned in and ifwhich meansthereforwhich and then i just look like some scientist.
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,376
@previous (M)
i think it looks better on paper than it sounds out loud. i can just hear it, that condescending, "Sooooo, you need to breath. all the time. that's important. aaaaaand you need to eat. a few times a day. uuuuuuh, water. you'll need to drink a lot of that."
but on paper it's a nice way to just jump right in. it's the written "um" i think, cause not many people, um, actually write "um." so, that spoken pause-like, um... what're they, idk what they're called actually. but yeah, so is the written um probably.
i bet an english scholar would know. but who here has truly mastered english?
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,378
FUCK U TOO BITCH
penthief !e6iiu.pZHU replied with this 11 years ago, 13 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,538
@575,357 (L)
Hi. How is it bad grammar? Why do you care?
Triptych joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,541
I need to stop saying "so", it's disgusting
Metæ (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,546
@575,274 (squeegee)
It's so fucking obnoxious. So has a place in English but that place is not at the beginning of every fucking answer in every fucking interview/press conference.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,549
@575,357 (L)
You bloody blighter! I'll have you know the penthief is a true English gentleman, and you are likely to be challenged to and soundly beaten in a duel if you carry on like this!
penthief !e6iiu.pZHU replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,551
Looked up examples of how English evolved - Old English AD 450- AD 1100
Her for se here of East Englum ofer Humbremuþan to Eoforwicceastre on Norþhymbre, ond þær wæs micel ungeþuærnes þære þeode betweox him selfum, ond hie hæfdun hiera cyning aworpenne Osbryht, ond ungecyndne cyning underfengon Ællan; ond hie late on geare to þam gecirdon þæt hie wiþ þone here winnende wærun, ond hie þeah micle fierd gegadrodon, ond þone here sohton æt Eoforwicceastre, ond on þa ceastre bræcon, ond hie sume inne wurdon, ond þær was ungemetlic wæl geslægen Norþanhymbra, sume binnan, sume butan; ond þa cyningas begen ofslægene, ond sio laf wiþ þone here friþ nam.
So...I think I can get used to such if it endures.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,555
@previous (Syntax)
That is, literally, illegible gibberish.
Metæ (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,560
@575,554 (Syntax)
I want to thank you for instigating the great vowel shift.
Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#575,565
First a korrection - the example of Old English is from (Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, 867 A.D.)
> That is, literally, illegible gibberish.
So, to you and I yes of course. Same page has example of this English
Whan that aprill with his shoures soote
The droghte of march hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich licour
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Whan zephirus eek with his sweete breeth
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
Tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the ram his halve cours yronne,
And smale foweles maken melodye,
That slepen al the nyght with open ye
(so priketh hem nature in hir corages);
Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages,
And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes,
To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes;
And specially from every shires ende
Of engelond to caunterbury they wende,
The hooly blisful martir for to seke,
That hem hath holpen whan that they were seeke.
(Geoffrey Chaucer, Canterbury Tales, c. 1400)
@previous (Metæ)
So...In future English, will probably fail because English of our future will be strongly influenced by texting and there is no room for the extra preamble of So