Topic: Let's get one thing straight: if you were born with a dick, you're a man. If not you're a woman.
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #43,257
Period. Got it, fuckups?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later[^] [v] #572,133
> Period
That's what they don't get.
That's what they don't get.
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,135
Why is Matt so obsessed with transgendered people?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,139
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 58 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,142
fool
you cannot go against the scientific evidence
the situation is not even very ambiguous, the science is clear on this
ha ha ha
you cannot go against the scientific evidence
the situation is not even very ambiguous, the science is clear on this
ha ha ha
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,149
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,152
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,154
This troll bait is weak. No effort in it at all. Just a statment you expect to argue against when it's been done to death. No right-wing conservative news links for people to argue against and no statment of intent. 0/10 bert level trollingAnonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,157
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,160
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 50 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,169
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 52 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,176
Wait, what about people with androgen insensitivity syndrome who are genetically males (they possess a y chromosome) but don't develop male genitalia?
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 55 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,185
@572,142 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Nope. Natural law takes precedent here. Everyone knows what a man is, what a woman is, and what pretending is. A tiny minority of people with mental health problems don't get to redefine the world as we know it.
There is more to a woman than a lack of a penis, wearing makeup and stuffing the chest with silicone.
Males and females are clearly defined. Just ask the trannys that are transitioning between the two.
Nope. Natural law takes precedent here. Everyone knows what a man is, what a woman is, and what pretending is. A tiny minority of people with mental health problems don't get to redefine the world as we know it.
There is more to a woman than a lack of a penis, wearing makeup and stuffing the chest with silicone.
Males and females are clearly defined. Just ask the trannys that are transitioning between the two.
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,186
@previous (K)
lol yesah. Like 1% of people are intersex, but lets go ahead and redefine the words man and woman.
lol yesah. Like 1% of people are intersex, but lets go ahead and redefine the words man and woman.
Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,189
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Its' as though some wacky conspiracy theorists decided there was a government cover up about genders. That is who we are supposed to believe now, and whose crazy ideas we are supposed to accept
Its' as though some wacky conspiracy theorists decided there was a government cover up about genders. That is who we are supposed to believe now, and whose crazy ideas we are supposed to accept
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,193
Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,194
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
A small percentage of people with mental health problems get to define what a woman is, women do not.
Being a woman is exactly the same as being a man that feels like his concept of what a woman is. Nothing more.
A small percentage of people with mental health problems get to define what a woman is, women do not.
Being a woman is exactly the same as being a man that feels like his concept of what a woman is. Nothing more.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,195
The sense of self is in the mind not the body.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,197
Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,200
@previous (G)
The sense of self is still in the mind not the body. T.hanks.
The body without the mind is a useless sack of meat.
The sense of self is still in the mind not the body. T.hanks.
The body without the mind is a useless sack of meat.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,201
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,202
@572,200 (M)
The body allows the mind to feel, if feel in your mind that you have three arms but only two then the mind is defective.
The body allows the mind to feel, if feel in your mind that you have three arms but only two then the mind is defective.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,203
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,204
@572,185 (K)
I'm tempted to discuss this with you, but I get the impression you are either a troll or are simply too set in your mindset to accept anything I might say.
Also, this reply doesn't really disprove my point. Gender identity, which is separate from biological sex, is a proven fact. Just pretending that the body is all that matters is shortsighted.
@572,197 (G)
> mind is a servant of the body
That's an interesting debate. For the most part, I'd say that the mind is in control. Though the body can sometimes influence the mind (like releasing hormones) or the mind can misread a bodily reaction (e.g, mistaking fear for arousal).
@572,193 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Everyone being a woman? Some people want to be men too, you silly.
I'm tempted to discuss this with you, but I get the impression you are either a troll or are simply too set in your mindset to accept anything I might say.
Also, this reply doesn't really disprove my point. Gender identity, which is separate from biological sex, is a proven fact. Just pretending that the body is all that matters is shortsighted.
@572,197 (G)
> mind is a servant of the body
That's an interesting debate. For the most part, I'd say that the mind is in control. Though the body can sometimes influence the mind (like releasing hormones) or the mind can misread a bodily reaction (e.g, mistaking fear for arousal).
@572,193 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Everyone being a woman? Some people want to be men too, you silly.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,206
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,207
> Let's get one thing straight: if you were born with a dick, you're a man. If not you're a woman.
Totally correct.
Totally correct.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,208
@572,206 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
No, I don't actually. I would need to see some reliable statistics first. Preferably something using a large, representative sample.
Tell me, how do you have such certainty? I suppose it's from observing internet popular culture?
No, I don't actually. I would need to see some reliable statistics first. Preferably something using a large, representative sample.
Tell me, how do you have such certainty? I suppose it's from observing internet popular culture?
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,209
@572,204 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> > mind is a servant of the body
That's an interesting debate. For the most part, I'd say that the mind is in control.
So if an otherkin bird jummped off a cliff in an attempt to fly how well do you think that'll work? The mind is in control of one actions
> > mind is a servant of the body
That's an interesting debate. For the most part, I'd say that the mind is in control.
So if an otherkin bird jummped off a cliff in an attempt to fly how well do you think that'll work? The mind is in control of one actions
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Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 44 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,210
@572,202 (G)
The sense of self is still in the mind. T.hanks.
Bodies are useless without the brain.
Go McFucking Kill Yourself, McMatt.
The sense of self is still in the mind. T.hanks.
Bodies are useless without the brain.
Go McFucking Kill Yourself, McMatt.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 11 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,211
@572,208 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yeah, pretend that I'm wrong. Its not like there is a connection between male to females and autism or anything. You tool.
Yeah, pretend that I'm wrong. Its not like there is a connection between male to females and autism or anything. You tool.
Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 50 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,212
@572,204 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I dont care for your opinion on mental disorders, in this case specifically gender identity disorders
I dont care for your opinion on mental disorders, in this case specifically gender identity disorders
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,213
I'm sorry your parents don't approve of your transbian gf OP.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 8 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,214
@572,208 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> No, I don't actually. I would need to see some reliable statistics first. Preferably something using a large, representative sample.
>
> Tell me, how do you have such certainty? I suppose it's from observing internet popular culture?
> Swedish study estimated a ratio of 1.4:1 in favour of trans women for those requesting sex reassignment surgery and a ratio of 1:1 for those who proceeded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
You don't have to look very far to see Kook is right. But that's what I like about you, you desire to make a easy fool of yourself
> No, I don't actually. I would need to see some reliable statistics first. Preferably something using a large, representative sample.
>
> Tell me, how do you have such certainty? I suppose it's from observing internet popular culture?
> Swedish study estimated a ratio of 1.4:1 in favour of trans women for those requesting sex reassignment surgery and a ratio of 1:1 for those who proceeded
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
You don't have to look very far to see Kook is right. But that's what I like about you, you desire to make a easy fool of yourself
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,218
@572,209 (G)
Okay then, you're not worth speaking to.
@572,211 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Actually, I looked over some google scholar articles the last time you said this, and they suggest a connection between FtM transsexuals and autism. Which sort of makes sense, considering the extreme make brain theory.
Anyway, your response there was weird. I just said "you probably got your impression from Internet culture" and your reply is to randomly bring up autism?
@572,212 (K)
It's not an opinion, it's scientific fact. But okay, if you want to cover your ears on that then go ahead. This thread is looking like a pretty enthusiastic transphobe circlejerk, so you probably don't care about scientific studies anyway.
Okay then, you're not worth speaking to.
@572,211 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Actually, I looked over some google scholar articles the last time you said this, and they suggest a connection between FtM transsexuals and autism. Which sort of makes sense, considering the extreme make brain theory.
Anyway, your response there was weird. I just said "you probably got your impression from Internet culture" and your reply is to randomly bring up autism?
@572,212 (K)
It's not an opinion, it's scientific fact. But okay, if you want to cover your ears on that then go ahead. This thread is looking like a pretty enthusiastic transphobe circlejerk, so you probably don't care about scientific studies anyway.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,221
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,223
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I saw it. I'm just not too inclined to reply to that anon anymore, considering his response to my post about the mind/body issue was met by babbling about otherkins, or something.
I saw it. I'm just not too inclined to reply to that anon anymore, considering his response to my post about the mind/body issue was met by babbling about otherkins, or something.
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 31 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,224
@572,221 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
It's funny isn't it. He used an older post as an excuse to ignore me. Like this chess player I knew, such a sore loser he wouldn't make his last move to avoid checkmate
It's funny isn't it. He used an older post as an excuse to ignore me. Like this chess player I knew, such a sore loser he wouldn't make his last move to avoid checkmate
Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,227
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,228
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,230
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
But I never actually disagreed with your point... I just said I'd need to see reliable, statisitcal evidence of it, rathering than just forming one based on acedote.
However, some quick googling found this, which in turn cites a study suggesting that the gap between MtFs and FtMs seems to be narrowing over time. One must also keep in mind that things aren't quite as simple as simply requesting the surgery, as it assumes that each and every trans person does. Some might feel scared or unable to do so, that could influence the numbers, somewhat.
Speaking of ignoring things, I see you're ignoring my point about there being more of a connection between FtM trans people and autism than with MtF ones. Why's that, buspup?
But I never actually disagreed with your point... I just said I'd need to see reliable, statisitcal evidence of it, rathering than just forming one based on acedote.
However, some quick googling found this, which in turn cites a study suggesting that the gap between MtFs and FtMs seems to be narrowing over time. One must also keep in mind that things aren't quite as simple as simply requesting the surgery, as it assumes that each and every trans person does. Some might feel scared or unable to do so, that could influence the numbers, somewhat.
Speaking of ignoring things, I see you're ignoring my point about there being more of a connection between FtM trans people and autism than with MtF ones. Why's that, buspup?
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Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,231
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 27 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,232
Anonymous G replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,234
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
I heard you were a mod there and have been involved with it almost from the start.
I heard you were a mod there and have been involved with it almost from the start.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 57 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,248
@572,230 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Males have more autism then females period. Just because they havent provwn a link yet, means nothing.
Males have more autism then females period. Just because they havent provwn a link yet, means nothing.
Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,249
@572,230 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
It's pretty well established that trannies are all gross creepy autists who put on a dress so they can perv in the women's locker room.
It's pretty well established that trannies are all gross creepy autists who put on a dress so they can perv in the women's locker room.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,255
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,258
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,261
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,266
@572,248 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
lol. Why so put off by what I said? There's nothing wrong with who happens to have higher rates of autism. It's not a contest to be won, or anything. It's just a thing that is.
There are more male autistics than female autistics, yes. But as I said, in the context of "the extreme male brain theory", there being a link between FtMs and autism makes sense. The extreme male brain theory basically says that autism can be considered an extreme form of the "male mindset" which, compared to the "female mindset", is higher is systemising but lower in empathy. This theory was an attempt at explaining why there are many more male autistics than female ones. And since FtMs could be considered to have a "male brain", it ties in nicely.
Now, the extreme male brain theory definitely has some very valid criticisms, so I'm not saying it's a perfect theory or can explain this. But, to me, it seems a possibility as to why there seems to be the stronger link between FtMs and autism than with MtFs.
@572,249 (Metæ)
Of course. You just need to read a few angry Tumblr blogs and a few scary news articles to make this highly informed deduction.
lol. Why so put off by what I said? There's nothing wrong with who happens to have higher rates of autism. It's not a contest to be won, or anything. It's just a thing that is.
There are more male autistics than female autistics, yes. But as I said, in the context of "the extreme male brain theory", there being a link between FtMs and autism makes sense. The extreme male brain theory basically says that autism can be considered an extreme form of the "male mindset" which, compared to the "female mindset", is higher is systemising but lower in empathy. This theory was an attempt at explaining why there are many more male autistics than female ones. And since FtMs could be considered to have a "male brain", it ties in nicely.
Now, the extreme male brain theory definitely has some very valid criticisms, so I'm not saying it's a perfect theory or can explain this. But, to me, it seems a possibility as to why there seems to be the stronger link between FtMs and autism than with MtFs.
@572,249 (Metæ)
Of course. You just need to read a few angry Tumblr blogs and a few scary news articles to make this highly informed deduction.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,267
@572,255 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Ah yes. As history has shown, broadly negative generalisations like this are always true and are always good for society.
Keep warning us about the transsexual menace, you brave soldier you!
Ah yes. As history has shown, broadly negative generalisations like this are always true and are always good for society.
Keep warning us about the transsexual menace, you brave soldier you!
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,268
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I dont need to warn people. Women can smell a faker from a mile away. Ask becky.
I dont need to warn people. Women can smell a faker from a mile away. Ask becky.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,324
@572,261 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I'm not. I've only used the word "creepy" three (well, now four) times in the past two years :/ and only one of which had anything to do with women at all. I remember at one point I had misunderstood and thought you were afraid of all men at all times which I thought a bit over the top, and hurtful to me as a male.
@572,255 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
There are some, I won't argue with you on that. But I think you're projecting the worst ones onto the whole community.
@572,266 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I find it interesting how the internet enables one to see the world they want to see. I don't mean it in a negative way, and it happens to me too where I sort of live in an online bubble (apart from MC obviously) gravitating towards news sites and discussion boards that align with my own ideals, biases, and viewpoints.
I'm not. I've only used the word "creepy" three (well, now four) times in the past two years :/ and only one of which had anything to do with women at all. I remember at one point I had misunderstood and thought you were afraid of all men at all times which I thought a bit over the top, and hurtful to me as a male.
@572,255 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
There are some, I won't argue with you on that. But I think you're projecting the worst ones onto the whole community.
@572,266 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I find it interesting how the internet enables one to see the world they want to see. I don't mean it in a negative way, and it happens to me too where I sort of live in an online bubble (apart from MC obviously) gravitating towards news sites and discussion boards that align with my own ideals, biases, and viewpoints.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,325
@572,197 (G)
The mind often tells you your missing leg is still there. It's called Phantom Limb Syndrome.
The mind often tells you your missing leg is still there. It's called Phantom Limb Syndrome.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,328
@572,324 (Metæ)
But why use it if its an unfair and loaded term? Like it or not, many people find mtf's to be very creepy. Even other transwomen are creeped out by non passing trannies. Just because no one wants to pee with "cis"men, doesnt mean that bio females should be forced to pee with bio males.
But why use it if its an unfair and loaded term? Like it or not, many people find mtf's to be very creepy. Even other transwomen are creeped out by non passing trannies. Just because no one wants to pee with "cis"men, doesnt mean that bio females should be forced to pee with bio males.
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 32 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,330
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,334
@572,328 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I wasn't hung up about the word creepy, just when I thought you were scared of all men. Yes, some men and MtFs are creepy. Most MtFs won't ever pass and I feel very bad for them and I don't know what the answer is.
> Just because no one wants to pee with "cis"men, doesnt mean that bio females should be forced to pee with bio males.
I didn't quite understand this. I don't like peeing with anybody. I hate public bathrooms.
I wasn't hung up about the word creepy, just when I thought you were scared of all men. Yes, some men and MtFs are creepy. Most MtFs won't ever pass and I feel very bad for them and I don't know what the answer is.
> Just because no one wants to pee with "cis"men, doesnt mean that bio females should be forced to pee with bio males.
I didn't quite understand this. I don't like peeing with anybody. I hate public bathrooms.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,336
@previous (Metæ)
Mtf's want to use womens restrooms and lockerrooms because they claim that "cis" men are a threat to them. But until someone proves otherwise, why have to assume that trans women commit the same types of crimes. So by trying to protect trans women, you are putting real women in danger.
You used the words creepy, autistic, and fetish like those words were inaccurate. But many males who dress in drag (trans or not) could be described with those terms.
Mtf's want to use womens restrooms and lockerrooms because they claim that "cis" men are a threat to them. But until someone proves otherwise, why have to assume that trans women commit the same types of crimes. So by trying to protect trans women, you are putting real women in danger.
You used the words creepy, autistic, and fetish like those words were inaccurate. But many males who dress in drag (trans or not) could be described with those terms.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,338
@572,324 (Metæ)
Of course. The internet, being the big public forum it is, lets anyone make a community or news site for any viewpoint imaginable. And, since it's human nature to seek out likeminded people, the convergence you describe isn't unexpected. But yeah, it's nice how MC has some diversity in its opinions.
@572,328 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I agree. Thinking that somebody looks creepy is a good reason to distrust and marginalise them.
Before you say anything, I'm not advocating that any dude can throw on a dress and hang out in female bathrooms. We've gone through conversation already. I just think that you saying it's okay to generalise based on appearence and stereotypes is a very bad, and historically discredited way of thinking.
@572,334 (Metæ)
> I don't know what the answer is.
Well, assuming that surgery and medicine continue to advance, the usual answer might get a bit better.
Of course. The internet, being the big public forum it is, lets anyone make a community or news site for any viewpoint imaginable. And, since it's human nature to seek out likeminded people, the convergence you describe isn't unexpected. But yeah, it's nice how MC has some diversity in its opinions.
@572,328 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I agree. Thinking that somebody looks creepy is a good reason to distrust and marginalise them.
Before you say anything, I'm not advocating that any dude can throw on a dress and hang out in female bathrooms. We've gone through conversation already. I just think that you saying it's okay to generalise based on appearence and stereotypes is a very bad, and historically discredited way of thinking.
@572,334 (Metæ)
> I don't know what the answer is.
Well, assuming that surgery and medicine continue to advance, the usual answer might get a bit better.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,339
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 second later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,340
@572,336 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
And yes some of them are. There's creepy cis men too, and creepy cis women, what's your point? It's like saying "look at these knockout game videos and photos of looting in Baltimore, aren't blacks violent?" Should a few bad people stigmatize all members of a community?
And yes some of them are. There's creepy cis men too, and creepy cis women, what's your point? It's like saying "look at these knockout game videos and photos of looting in Baltimore, aren't blacks violent?" Should a few bad people stigmatize all members of a community?
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,341
@572,338 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
A male is a male no matter the trappings of femininity. Since most trannies dont even get their hormones checked let alone have brain scans, well I guess that we have to let all feminine men be kept with the women. Lol progress.
A male is a male no matter the trappings of femininity. Since most trannies dont even get their hormones checked let alone have brain scans, well I guess that we have to let all feminine men be kept with the women. Lol progress.
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,343
@572,340 (Metæ)
Wait, did you just admit that womn could be considered creepy?! Lol
But seriously though, bio males (trans or otherwise) will always be more creepy to females then other females. Trans women are also as dangerous as cis men until we find out otherwise.
Its an integral part of personal safety for bio females to be able to notice and recognize bio males. So naturally seeing a bio male in a womans restroom will cause alarm. That is biology not bigotry.
Wait, did you just admit that womn could be considered creepy?! Lol
But seriously though, bio males (trans or otherwise) will always be more creepy to females then other females. Trans women are also as dangerous as cis men until we find out otherwise.
Its an integral part of personal safety for bio females to be able to notice and recognize bio males. So naturally seeing a bio male in a womans restroom will cause alarm. That is biology not bigotry.
kook !!mCVqftDha triple-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,345
@572,340 (Metæ)
By this logic, trans women have nothing to fear from "cis" men. They're just unfairly stereotyping a whole group.
By this logic, trans women have nothing to fear from "cis" men. They're just unfairly stereotyping a whole group.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,346
@572,336 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I don't mean to be mean with the racism analogy but saying things like
> You used the words creepy, autistic, and fetish like those words were inaccurate. But many males who dress in drag (trans or not) could be described with those terms.
reminds me of when homosexuality was considered a mental condition (even in the DSM) and linked with pedophilia and a whole host of mental disorders.
I understand a lot of MtFs look bad and I can see why women would be uncomfortable about them in bath and changing rooms. But the fact that some MtFs do it for a fetish or a kink doesn't, in my opinion, delegitimize transsexuality.
I don't mean to be mean with the racism analogy but saying things like
> You used the words creepy, autistic, and fetish like those words were inaccurate. But many males who dress in drag (trans or not) could be described with those terms.
reminds me of when homosexuality was considered a mental condition (even in the DSM) and linked with pedophilia and a whole host of mental disorders.
I understand a lot of MtFs look bad and I can see why women would be uncomfortable about them in bath and changing rooms. But the fact that some MtFs do it for a fetish or a kink doesn't, in my opinion, delegitimize transsexuality.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,347
@previous (Metæ)
Its not about looking bad. Its about obviously being bio males in an area where bio females are vulnerable.
Its not about looking bad. Its about obviously being bio males in an area where bio females are vulnerable.
dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,349
quality draad
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 58 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,350
@572,346 (Metæ)
I agree. IMO, transsexuals are more or less where homosexuals were a while ago. They're this previously stigmatised and marginalised group that are just now pushing for mainstream acceptance. And they're getting there, slowly. There've been more famous transsexuals in recent years, IIRC. Always a good sign.
@572,341 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.
Also, I don't see why transsexuals would be clamouring to prove that they're trans when it's usually a very innate, personal thing that they instinctually know. You seem to think that there's this significant, controlling group of "fake transsexuals" who make the entire thing into a farce.
I agree. IMO, transsexuals are more or less where homosexuals were a while ago. They're this previously stigmatised and marginalised group that are just now pushing for mainstream acceptance. And they're getting there, slowly. There've been more famous transsexuals in recent years, IIRC. Always a good sign.
@572,341 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.
Also, I don't see why transsexuals would be clamouring to prove that they're trans when it's usually a very innate, personal thing that they instinctually know. You seem to think that there's this significant, controlling group of "fake transsexuals" who make the entire thing into a farce.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,351
@572,343 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Why can't women be creepy?
> Trans women are also as dangerous as cis men until we find out otherwise.
I would actually be interested in what you would accept as proof an MtF is not dangerous.
> Its an integral part of personal safety for bio females to be able to notice and recognize bio males. So naturally seeing a bio male in a womans restroom will cause alarm. That is biology not bigotry.
Yes, I understand where you're coming from on this. Hopefully transwomen will just use the unisex facilities.
Why can't women be creepy?
> Trans women are also as dangerous as cis men until we find out otherwise.
I would actually be interested in what you would accept as proof an MtF is not dangerous.
> Its an integral part of personal safety for bio females to be able to notice and recognize bio males. So naturally seeing a bio male in a womans restroom will cause alarm. That is biology not bigotry.
Yes, I understand where you're coming from on this. Hopefully transwomen will just use the unisex facilities.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,352
@572,350 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I do think that there are a lot of internet trannies andfetish trannies. Most people like attention thats why we have people kicking up a fuss over snowflake genders, special pronouns, headmates, etc. People love advertising their fetishes and self diagnosed mental issues.
I do think that there are a lot of internet trannies andfetish trannies. Most people like attention thats why we have people kicking up a fuss over snowflake genders, special pronouns, headmates, etc. People love advertising their fetishes and self diagnosed mental issues.
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,354
@572,351 (Metæ)
They are just as dangerous as other bio men. Should we push all unisex facilities?
You've implied in the past that women cant be creepy.
They are just as dangerous as other bio men. Should we push all unisex facilities?
You've implied in the past that women cant be creepy.
RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,355
@572,352 (kook !!mCVqftDha)As I've said before, I'm skeptical that the more out-there parts of Tumblr is all that representative of transsexuals. Because, at the end of the day, literally all the condition is is a mismatch between gender identity and body. Any differences beyond that are just traits of the individual.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,356
A question, are men a threat to women?
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 29 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,357
@572,354 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
When did I? Could you post a link or describe what the thread was about or roughly when this happened? I don't think I've ever posted such a thing. But, regardless of what I may or may not have said, why do you believe a woman cannot be creepy?
Creepy seems to be a gendered thing (like hysterical) but I do think a man can be hysterical and a woman can be creepy. I don't care about the word creepy one way or the other, really.
When did I? Could you post a link or describe what the thread was about or roughly when this happened? I don't think I've ever posted such a thing. But, regardless of what I may or may not have said, why do you believe a woman cannot be creepy?
Creepy seems to be a gendered thing (like hysterical) but I do think a man can be hysterical and a woman can be creepy. I don't care about the word creepy one way or the other, really.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,358
@572,355 (RWBY Rhubarb !!iNo3FkiZx)
Maybe look at the so called trans rights movements leaders and see how they come across. Or look at Minichans trans women. How do they compare?
Maybe look at the so called trans rights movements leaders and see how they come across. Or look at Minichans trans women. How do they compare?
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,359
@572,357 (Metæ)
I do think that women can be creepy. You said that during our big fight, and I will look for it when I get home.
I do think that women can be creepy. You said that during our big fight, and I will look for it when I get home.
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 49 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,360
@572,354 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Okay but you said "until we find out otherwise". I want to know: what would an MtF need to prove theyre not a threat? Completed reassignment surgery? Background check? Keeping their hands visible at all times? Frisked before entering the restroom? Three cis female references? What?
Okay but you said "until we find out otherwise". I want to know: what would an MtF need to prove theyre not a threat? Completed reassignment surgery? Background check? Keeping their hands visible at all times? Frisked before entering the restroom? Three cis female references? What?
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,361
I hereby strike anything that Meta has said in the past as beng inadmissible during our spats. We are starting fresh. Thanks
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,362
Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,363
@572,361 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Agreed.
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Perhaps they can set up a system where they get an RFID chip implanted after surgery and when you see a tranny you can whip out your phone and hit the LLM app and it will scan and if it picks up the chip the screen will turn green and it will say "safe tranny" but if there's no chip the scren will flash red and emit a 110dB panic siren. FtMs converted in the past could be inspected by an LLM approved surgeon and retrofitted with the chip.
Agreed.
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Perhaps they can set up a system where they get an RFID chip implanted after surgery and when you see a tranny you can whip out your phone and hit the LLM app and it will scan and if it picks up the chip the screen will turn green and it will say "safe tranny" but if there's no chip the scren will flash red and emit a 110dB panic siren. FtMs converted in the past could be inspected by an LLM approved surgeon and retrofitted with the chip.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 33 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,370
@previous (Metæ)
I'd rather that then letting the Chris Chans of the world, struggle with their hated members in the ladies room.
I'd rather that then letting the Chris Chans of the world, struggle with their hated members in the ladies room.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #572,408
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #572,548
Lol
I've been saying all of this for ages
Those who are "trans" aren't actually trans, they just pretend they are so they can be unique
I've been saying all of this for ages
Those who are "trans" aren't actually trans, they just pretend they are so they can be unique
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #572,550
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Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #572,615
If you cut your wiener off, you will get haunted by GHOST COCK