WSD !m2cp3rR5zw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 48 minutes later[^][v]#568,995
Transnordic. My Celtic traits give me severe ethnic dysphoria and I wish this was just an anti-SJW parody I'm talking about.
Triptych !!/xkPL9myM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#568,999
transhuman
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#569,003
I love how trans people have turned themselves into a joke with all their different meanings, pronouns and overly aggressive behavior on social media.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#569,009
Transistor. It has been a longstanding dream of mine to regulate electrical currents.
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#569,010
@568,999 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
if theres one thing im not psyched for in the singularity its transhumanism under capitalism. cant wait for rich people to shit on everyone when reality breaking abilities are being sold as a commodity
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
transistor was good but bastion is better
Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,040
Transport. I feel like a brum brum on the inside.
The Atlantic Ocean joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 35 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,053
Hey guys, I'm coming out as transatlantic. Just thought I'd break the news here since a lot of you are accepting towards a trans lifestyle.
Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 11 years ago, 26 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,055
@569,010 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
i don't know if i want those abilities
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,061
Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,064
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
i really like my humanism, don't you?
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 42 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,076
@569,010 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
For better or worse capitalism is what's moving transhumanism forward for now. Still, there is no utopian dream for us, not in socialism, communism, or capitalism. A mixed economic system utilizing some aspects of both socialism and capitalism seems to offer the most promise to date.
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,078
logan cunningham's narration worked a lot better in bastion because he was given things to say that were both pleasing to listen to and added to the world of the game
with transistor the world is less interesting than bastion and neither VA is given good things to say
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,082
@569,076 (J)
vocalon is an idiot. He can't put two and two togther because tumblr and his teenage angst has told him to hate capitalism.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,083
@569,081 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Waa!!!! Technology that will benefit everyone will also benefit rich people! Where's Chairman Moa when you need him?
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 38 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,084
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
i dont see how this relates to the best selling, critically acclaimed pair of games made by supergiant games
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,086
@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
When you consider technological advances is your only concern about rich people spending their money? You're retarded.
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,088
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
vocalon has no aspiration to get rich and since no one is going to gift him wealth he just hates them
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,090
@569,086 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
if you sell technological advances like we have been for roughly 200 years of USAmerican capitalism, the nature of selling things under capitalism will, of course, favor the rich
that being said i did like the design of red and the sword and the general aesthetic of the game but i found the world boring, like all of the robots were destructive, the windbags werent villains, just victims of circumstance, and all of the other characters never really got to develop in the way that they should, it lacked the zulf and the zia, if you will.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,094
@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
I'm aware, but why does that matter?
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 52 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,096
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
because you are literally selling the ability to transcend humanity, ie. transhumanism
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,098
@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Yes I understand that people are willing to spend money to cheat death. But why is that a problem?
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,101
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
because if its too expensive only the rich will live forever and dying becomes a poor people thing
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,103
@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
So? Most technology trickles down to the poor. Why wont this be the same?
penthief !e6iiu.pZHU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,104
@569,096 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
This idea reminds me of some film. Justin Timberlake was in it for some reason.
It was called "In Time".
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vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,106
@569,103 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
this is getting way too vague of an idea of "transhuman tech" because earlier it was a technological strapon and now its eternal life and for purposes of serving my argument now its brain uploading
anyways because trickledown doesnt apply when it comes to one-time, personal things
its not like "oh i got my mind-to-internet transfer system upgraded, you can have my old one" or discount mind uploading, its literally a one time and youre done thing
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,110
I think that a small, select group of people wouldn't long hold exclusivity on such a valuable piece of technology, not when faced with a far more numerous group that they themselves depend upon.
Besides, think of the money to be made selling transhuman stuff to all the average people. If capitalism really is utterly ruled by a small, single-mindedly greedy upper-class then they'll likely sell the tech off anyway.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,111
@569,106 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Would it really be a one-time thing? The mobile phone sure wasn't. They're still churning out upgrades and variations, and people buy them.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,112
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 48 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,113
@569,111 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
the "tech" we're discussing is way too vague to really determine whether or not it would be. if it was like, computers as implants would you really want to risk getting gonnoherpasyphilAIDS from someones old implants
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 32 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,114
@569,106 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
After every rich person bought one, how would they keep making money unless they started to sell to the poor.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 40 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,125
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
it's like in the movie elysium where there was a healing bed in space they purposefully kept out of the hands of poor people. it was a magic bed that could instantly cure all diseases and apparently didn't even use a lot of power, it was like a tanning bed but faster... and they kept it out of the hands of the poor because they wanted to maintain the class system. There seems to be this idea that the rich will keep super-science for themselves, even if a magic healing bed would make half of the worlds problems disappear instantly. but it's not really born out by history that the rich grow more technological while the poor become less so. It's a rising tide, and eventually today's expensive super-science is tomorrows cheap gadget-in-your-pocket. even stuff like the old super expensive luxury car options like anti-lock brakes and power windows and air conditioners and all that crap. It used to be that shit was only affordable to the rich, but now every low-end entry level car has those things.
but yes, there will be super-tech that people can't reasonably afford, like private jets today, or in some instances there are medical procedures you can't really afford if you're poor. but eventually those 3D printed biomechanical hearts and shit will be as cheap as a hip replacement and even those are way, way less than they cost just 10 years ago.
so don't worry too much about transhumanism being kept to the wealthy. we don't live in a bad movie where bad guys are evil for the sake of being evil. and everything gets cheaper as tech advances anyway. Yes, the rich will be the first to benefit, but remember the rich don't get rich by only dealing with the rich. they get rich by dealing with the 7 billion people who aren't rich but all have like 5 bucks to spend on shit. eventually the price will be there.
don't believe me? just look at what cars cost before they were mass produced and all made individually and by hand. they cost a small fortune. now they're so cheap practically everyone gets one for just turning 16
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kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 57 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,133
@previous (squeegee)
I'm shocked that vocalon discounts everything that you say. You're very smart
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 40 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,144
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
i wish, the older i get the dumber i feel. probably by the time i die i'll realize i don't know anything
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,150
@previous (squeegee)
that's just technology and pop culture, don't worry about it too much.
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,152
@569,133 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
tommy wiseau made millions off of advertising. does that make his movies good because "hes very smart"?
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,155
@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Yes it does make him a smart and competent business man.
vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 46 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,156
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
so are you saying the room is a good film because he made money advertising and selling discount clothes before it was made?
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#569,158
@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
I'm not saying that it's good, I'm saying that it's smart.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 month later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#581,479