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Topic: NAACP spokeswoman outed as white

beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q started this discussion 11 years ago #42,936

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/12/us/washington-spokane-naacp-rachel-dolezal-identity/

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #568,578

OK so we have transgenders and transracials. When are we going to get our transabled media sensation?

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,581

Externally hosted imagedolezal growing up

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squeegee double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,583

Externally hosted imagedolezal today

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beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,584

Externally hosted image@568,581 (squeegee)
This is my favorite.

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,585

lmao. i wonder how many people are gonna be like "fuckin tumblr" when tumblrs not on her side either

beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,588

Externally hosted imageHer hair is on point. That's what I'm most impressed by.

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,589

@568,585 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)

> appropriation
> transracial
> privilege

Tumblwords

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,591

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
> implying "transracial" is a thing

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,592

@568,588 (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q)
Since you are a woman (allegedly), how long do you think it took her to apply enough makeup, hairspray, etc. to go from @568,584 (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q) to @568,588 (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q) ?

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 48 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,593

@568,591 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)

Read the article fag

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,594

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
i did and its still not a thing

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,599

i am scared and confused

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 36 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,601

@568,594 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)

It is on tumblr

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,603

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
ive used tumblr and no its not

beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 13 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,604

@568,592 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
45 minutes to an hour

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 45 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,606

@568,603 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)

You should tell all the transniggers that

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,616

@568,603 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
You're a liar. It is on tumblr.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,618

@568,604 (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q)
That is actually not so bad. I should go pretend to be a black man. Thanks for the inspiration.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,622

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Can I pretend to be a Jewish man while you're doing that? Since there'll be a free space, and I'd really like to see inside one of your New World Order meetings.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,626

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
OK but then you need to find a black guy to fill your Cornish spot or the entire universe goes off balance and explodes. This is a pretty risky proposition.

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,629

@568,616 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
kook please your opinions on the matter are about as relevant as matts

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,632

@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
it's not opinion if it's a fact, vocalon. especially if it's a true fact.
https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/transracial

(Edited 43 seconds later.)

squeegee double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,636

Let me just address this all at once.

Transracial is usually a term used with adoptees who were born in another country/race/ethnicity but raised in another, which can create very complicated identity issues. What people seem to think that transracial means: “I am (insert race here) but oh man, I just feel like I should’ve been born (insert race here)”.

Stop.

You get people on Tumblr talking about “transitioning from white to black”, editing their photos to look “more Asian”, and comparing being “”“"transracial”“”“ to being trans*. Which is SO FUCKING PROBLEMATIC IF YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND THIS WHAT THE FUCK. It dismisses experiences and all the shit trans* people go through, it appropriates certain parts of a culture, and it perpetuates stereotypes about exotified and romanticized culture!

Here’s a pretty good response to all this.

And if you still have questions about being transethnic or transracial, I highly encourage you to read THIS POST.

More resources on actual transracial issues:

Adoption increasingly crosses racial, ethnic lines

Quien Yo Soy? Identity Issues in Transethnically-adopted Children

Is Transracial adoption right for everyone?

Effect of Transracial/Transethnic adoption on Children’s Racial and Ethnic Identity and Self-Esteem

squeegee triple-posted this 11 years ago, 53 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,637

i think transethnic is the more appropriate term though, i don't think they like being called transracial.

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #568,638

@568,632 (squeegee)
ok but like. youre willingly misinterpreting things again. transracialism doesnt exist in the context that a white person cannot identify as black in the same way an assigned-male person can identify as a woman.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,641

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squeegee double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,644

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kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,646

@568,629 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Because the truth doesnt matter if a cis people speaks it. Thanks tumbleron.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,647

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squeegee double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,651

Externally hosted image@568,646 (kook !!mCVqftDha)

Syntax joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,652

This forum usually supports Transgenders. So if the girl wants to be black why all the fuss?
In my opinion she looks far more better white but hey perhaps she wants More by attracting black males

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,653

@568,647 (squeegee)
this is why transracialism is fucked up

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,654

@568,651 (squeegee)
Thats so fucking embarrasing.

Metæ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,663

@568,591 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Serious question: if Bruce Jenner can be a woman, why can't Rachel Dolezal be black?

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,664

@previous (Metæ)
because race isnt the same as gender you false-equivalency fetishizing clod

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,666

@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
But race and gender are social constructs.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,667

@568,664 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
here are two similarities
1. you're born that way
2. you can appear to be that way but can't actually become that way

how is race different from gender?

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 4 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,668

@568,666 (Metæ)
lol

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc double-posted this 11 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,669

@568,667 (squeegee)
lold again

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,671

@568,663 (Metæ)
Because something privilege something something

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,672

@568,669 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
you said it's a false equivalency to compare race and gender. care to qualify that for us?

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,673

@568,663 (Metæ)
Not sure if you're being serious or just try to troll Vocalon, but my answer to this would be that there's no evidence of such a thing as "racial identity". Not like a gender identity, anyway. There's no part of your brain that determines what race you identify as.

And, as someone who likes equality, I find the idea of people feeling strongly enough about race to want to swap race a little disturbing. It's literally just skin colour. Ideally, it shouldn't be a determining part of your self-identity.

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 14 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,674

@568,672 (squeegee)
yknow if you were gonna listen i would but we both know thats not gonna happen

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,676

@568,668 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Countless scientific studies have shown that — apart from entirely meaningless cosmetic attributes – there is no meaningful difference between the human "races".

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,678

She is ugly. Isn't that what really counts?

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,679

@568,676 (Metæ)
scientific studies yeah but any basic sociology class can tell you racism is alive and well

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,680

@568,674 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
that's pretty much the kind of answer i expected. this is why people don't listen to you, you shut down and refuse to have a conversation when your opinions are challenged. unless you're having your opinions validated you're not interested in even having a conversation.

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,681

@previous (squeegee)
squeegee theres a difference between having a conversation and loldidntread.png

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,682

@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
you were the one who said that exact thing to me in another thread, i merely copy pasted it. i read every word of what you said and that's why i'm still disagreeing with you. you don't get to pull that shit on me and then throw it in my face when i pull it on you, that's hypocritical. vocalon.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,683

@previous (squeegee)
Vocalon isnt very smart or self aware.

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #568,684

@568,682 (squeegee)
lol @ you thinking im a cite button in, intelligent conversation out robot thing tho

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 8 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,896

@568,668 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Are they or are they not? Answer the question. Thanks.
@568,671 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
It amazes me how SJWs will accept transgenders and otherkin but get their undergarments in a bunch because "race is real though". If sex and gender aren't real and can be changed, why is race different? It's just melanin and hair right? Nothing a tan and a perm cant fix. If sex and gender are mutable why not race? Certainly a race change seems less drastic than a sex change to me.
@568,673 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I guess both, but I'm dead serious: why can't a white person identify as black? If a man can want the body of a woman, why cant a person of European descent want the characteristics of someone of African descent? I mean, Bruce Jenner gets some silicone in his chest and puts on a dress and now she's Caitlyn Jenner and everyone in the media respects her. But Ms. Dolezal gets publicly shamed OMFG SHES NOT REALLY BLACK YOU GUISE!!!1

It looks like her heart is in the right place and if it is, then what difference does her racial identity make?

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,897

@previous (Metæ)
It makes them uncomfortable because they start thinking about the reality of life. Thats also why trannies are afraid of hons.

Anonymous J replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,916

maybe race is the real one while whatever the french word for race is, is the one that is the social construct

maybe all french words for real things are the social contructs

Ceci n'est pas une pipe
http://www.saint-bres-pourtous.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/magritte-pipe1.jpg

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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 50 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,922

@568,896 (Metæ)
m8, I've explained why it's not the same as transgenderism at all. The biology just isn't the same. A person who is "transracial" is literally just identifying as somebody with a different shade of skin. And they're doing it because they have a romanticised view of the "culture" of the other race that they want to be in.

I just think it's an irrational and unnecessary thing to do. Granted, I don't think it's particularly major or immoral, but I can't really respect it as change like I do transgenderism.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,924

alright alright alright, after some thought i've figured it out. all transsexuals are homosexuals except for mixed transsexual couples which are heterosexual. unless you're watching then it's still pretty gay looking. but, without exception transracialists are all faggots, can we at least agree on this point?

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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,933

Found this article on Tumblr of all places.

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,979

transracialists as they are now are living proof that white people WANT to be oppressed

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 21 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,983

@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
tumblr is proof that white people want to be oppressed.

@568,644 (squeegee)
The "Peace out, my niggas." really makes it.

dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #568,992

@568,979 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
arent you white?

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #568,996

@568,979 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
transwomen are living proof that men want to be oppressed.

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 33 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #568,997

@568,933 (K)
lol that article is so tumblr accurate

vocalon !74TdoRkjCc replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #568,998

@568,996 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
lol

why do you keep replying where youre not needed

maybe next youll tell jackson pollock his paintings are too messy, or ernest hemingway his sentences are too short.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,000

@previous (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
I was just building onto your insightful post.

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,001

@568,998 (vocalon !74TdoRkjCc)
Remember when you claimed that the Salvation Army wouldnt hire you because of transphobia? lol

Metæ replied with this 11 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,211

@568,922 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I certainly wasn't upset at you or anything. It's one of those emotional things that's difficult to put into words but the way I see it is: if gender isn't real (ie inviolable), why is race? I think in the case of transgendered people, some element of the dysphoria must be related to the body, more specifically to sexual differentiators like body hair distribution, skeletal shape, mammary gland development, genital configuration, etc. If a man can want the body of a woman is it so crazy to think someone with straight blond hair and pale skin could want tightly curled dark hair and dark skin? I don't understand it myself but if one could have gender dysphoria then why can't one have racial dysphoria? I mean, there are people who want perfectly fine limbs chopped off so they can be amputees.

@568,897 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
The thing that irks me is the failure to carry their beliefs to their logical conclusions. They're okay with transspeciesism and transgenderism but they arbitrarily draw the line at race. Why stop at race? It is, like sex, a characteristic assigned at birth and one which can have a real impact on the course of an individuals life.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,213

@previous (Metæ)
> if gender isn't real (ie inviolable),
It is real. There's an actual part of the brain that determines what gender you identify as.

> if one could have gender dysphoria then why can't one have racial dysphoria?
If a person had "racial dysphoria", it would be very different from a case of gender dysphoria. Racial dysphoria would, from what I can fathom, come from a person placing way too much importance on race. It's a skewed viewpoint, not a proven biological condition. And since I view race as something that should be a non-issue, a person thinking it's important enough to warrant changing theirs disturbs me.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,268

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Out of curiosity, how do you feel about Michael Jackson?

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,271

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
...Why? Is this an attempt to "catch me out"?

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,288

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
No, I'm just curious what your thoughts are about someone who was born black and died an eerie caricature of a white cartoon character.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #569,300

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
I don't really know much about him specifically. I know he had a whole lot of other weirdness about him, so the plastic surgery might've been part of that.

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 8 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #569,396

@569,001 (kook !!mCVqftDha)

> Remember when you claimed that the Salvation Army wouldnt hire you because of transphobia? lol

lol...

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #569,409

@previous (N)
He doesnt even dress in drag and he still told that lie
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