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Topic: How did Frozen become so popular?

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 11 years ago #42,419

It seems to have officially declared itself Disney's golden child up there with the likes of Star Wars.

http://www.newyorker.com/science/maria-konnikova/how-frozen-took-over-the-world

Green !BEERiVqJJw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #562,980

Shut up.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,983

@previous (Green !BEERiVqJJw)
I'm not bad mouthing it if you think I'm attacking it.

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,991

it's new. that's it. the next new disney cartoon will eclipse it. just like has happened with all the others.
besides it being new, it's got little to offer. the same music as any of them and the animation and colors were actually quite bleak.
all they'll have to do is make their next movie during not winter time and it'll look so lively and colorful and new by comparison people will proclaim it the best disney movie evar

just like every new disney movie that comes out.

edit: also you can't really use box office earning as a measure of popularity. not only do they rarely account for inflation, they just announce the next big number (of course Fantasia didn't earn 1.2 billion dollars, movies cost 5 cents back then) but pretty much every new blockbuster out earns every previous blockbuster. of course don't expect the marketing people to say that, they'll just say "Frozen is the highest grossing disney movie of all time and is the most popular disney movie evar."

(Edited 4 minutes later.)

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,992

@previous (squeegee)
Son, you ain't got an accurate assessment of the situation... Frozen is famous in an exceptional way!

Tesco Manager joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,994

@562,991 (squeegee)
@previous (D)
They'll never top The Lion King. Thanks.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,995

@562,992 (D)
it was recycled garbage and one of their least "epic" movies. it was bland and uninspired and boring. i can't wait for the next lil' princess movie so cunts stop talking about this shit fest

dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,996

million dollar marketing budgets

Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,998

@562,995 (squeegee)
shoot, if you want to live in your worldview of cynicism then just have at it.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #562,999

@562,991 (squeegee)
Big Hero 6 came out after Frozen and it doesn't seem to be getting any love.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #563,007

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
That is because the main characters are not incestuous lesbians. Thanks.

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,024

@562,999 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
not a lil' princess movie though

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,025

@562,991 (squeegee)
That didnt happen with every Disney movie. Some did poorly, like the Princess and the Frog.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,029

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
wasn't that one like weird and gothic and creepy though? it's an outlier

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,032

@previous (squeegee)
It starred a black chick

dw replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,045

@562,999 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
big hero 6 is too dark for 5 year olds

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,046

@previous (dw)
Also, using numbers in the name of a childrens movie is confusing to them if it isn't a sequel.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,048

Pochahantas also did pretty poorly.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,050

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Careful, you'll set squeegee off.

Syntax joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,056

@562,991 (squeegee)
> (of course Fantasia didn't earn 1.2 billion dollars, movies cost 5 cents back then

Which got me to wonder how it ranks when Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation

So in 2days numbers Fantasia ''Fantasia wood be $674,313,000 Vs $76,408,097 1941$

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs adjusted $885,080,000

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

Gone with the Wind still ranks #1 and I had reasons to have to view that movie and cheated and only watched enough to get the gist

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 29 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,075

@previous (Syntax)
Well yeah, it's the 3rd oldest movie and it has the widest range of potential viewers out of the 3 oldest.

Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,079

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
I am still a fan of this one
#4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $1,151,857,200 in 2015$

Wood enjoy some home video of Drew Barrymore showing that film to her kids and trying to convince them she is the little girl.

Green !BEERiVqJJw replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,118

@562,994 (Tesco Manager)

Oi, Tesco manager, where were you?

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,126

@563,032 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
@563,048 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Yeah, see no1cars about princesses who are PoC. All people want to see is Aryan princess movies and maybe the rise of the fourth reich.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,230

@563,032 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
oh yeah, that's an outlier

@563,048 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
i should probably just say lil' white blonde princess movie.

@563,050 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
no, she's right, movies about indians suck. hollywood always just fucks it all up because they can't really tell the true story. Even the successful HBO show Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee was full of errors and exaggerations and lies. it basically got the gist of it, but it's still a fairy tale version of what happened. As bad as they depicted it, it was much worse. But, depicting the cavalry as basically genocidal SS officers under the direction of a bigoted murderer (Andrew Jackson) who's not much better (just less ambitious) than Hitler wouldn't have played well. But, today's American doesn't have the same outlook on "savages" and don't generally have a belief in "subhumans" and most people today can't really wrap their mind around the fact that back then indians just weren't considered human and could be slaughtered like buffalo without a second thought. The reason they weren't taken as slaves is because they couldn't be domesticated, they were too violent. (but let's face it, they were violently resisting capture and slavery, so, yeah they were violent. fuck off.) So pretty much slaughtering them was the only way to deal with ones that refused to move. And that doesn't make for a very good movie. certainly doesn't leave you feeling even remotely hopeful the indians will be okay like BMHaWK tried to do.

So even the demo that might want to watch a movie about indians don't want to watch it because it's a "winner's side of the story" kinda thing and modern indians really reject indoctrination stories and most "histories" on the matter. the real story is about greed, murder, and control, and the US is actually the bad guy. So it's not surprising that Pocahontas did piss poorly, it's an utter fabrication and a general smearing of history, and i don't even have to see it to know that.

@563,050 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
what? no way.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,231

Because the music of Frozen is just fabulous.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,232

@previous (M)
really? i've never seen it

Anonymous M replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,233

@previous (squeegee)
You should watch it. A couple of the songs are as good ans anything Andrew Loyd Weber has ever put out.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 43 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,239

@563,230 (squeegee)
See, I warned you guys...

I actually meant that it would set you off because it's a "winners view" recounting with lots of sugar-coating and make-believe and just takes liberty with the most recognizable stereotypes of indian culture instead of trying to be even the slightest bit accurate in it's portrayal of anything.

Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,245

frozen sucks

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,246

@previous (Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw)
Shut up, Falco. You won't even tell us Disney secrets.

Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,247

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
deal with it nerd

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,248

@previous (Falco !a7Q.SWNEJw)
You deal with it, you bandy legged yiffer!

Anonymous K replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,249

@563,246 (kook !!mCVqftDha)

> Shut up, Falco. You won't even tell us Disney secrets.

No secret that Walt Disney's head is frozen.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #563,250

Like it or not, this is an anthem of the 2010's a.k.a. the trans-decade.
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