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Topic: How come dial-up Internet isn't free now?

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 11 years ago #41,909

Seems like it's something people should freely acquire in case of an emergency outage at their cable or dsl provider.

How are companies still charging full price for an inferior product?

Syntax joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later[^] [v] #556,827

Full price?
So of curious nature I looked at dial up cost of AOL. Actually costs MORE then most AOL Broadband plans.
Netzero its also expensive compared to other modern plans they have. (not that they are all that modern)

Crazy when ATT DSL is advertised at $14.95 and AOL dial up is $20
> How are companies still charging full price for an inferior product?

Because couple million people are just dumb as fuck or afraid of upgrading I guess. May go away re FCC plan to force a minimum speed which dial up no can do

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Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,828

@previous (Syntax)
Having dial-up should be like having a vintage radio.
For emergency use only.

Yes, if I had my own fallout shelter, I consider having possible Internet access a necessity despite it not working due to the destruction of all servers.

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 51 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,829

uh, honestly you don't want dial-up as a backup, modern web stuff would eat a 57.6baud modem alive.
the kind of services you get on dial up are equivalent to texting. for people that use it, i expect it's their "email machine" more thank anything, and at this point they are paying a pittance for the services. it used to be companies like AOL would charge you by the hour and it wasn't all that cheap to begin with. i still remember when they went to a flat monthly fee and i was ecstatic. i have no idea what AOL charges or even who the fuck still even does dial up, but from what i remember about it loading a site like minichan, with pictures, could take minutes at a time. and older browsers didn't cache like these modern ones do, no, you had to download everything anytime you refreshed.

anyway, it would make a terrible, terrible back up for losing connection with your ISP. just keep using your phone as a backup, it's way, WAY more capable than your PC will be using dial-up.

pretty much for the same reason we don't all know and use morse-code and telegraphs as backups. they are so out of date they can't have any relevance anymore. and telegraphs finally died not too long ago, dial-up will eventually die as well. 20 years and people your age won't even know that people used to have to dial anything.

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,832

@previous (squeegee)
Why would morse-code go out of date though?

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,836

@556,827 (Syntax)
i looked it up too, 2 million people at 20 bucks a month, that's a half a billion bucks right there.

also don't believe any of those ads, they always do that shit as part of a bundled package or they give it as an introductory starting rate. they end up fucking people out of more money than they advertize. i wouldn't doubt that aol's dial-up doesn't come with all of the other fees and shit actual carriers ding you with. yeah, still fucking stupid people pay for that shit when the slightly more expensive broadband packages are are way, way better.

old people are going to act old, though, i guess.

squeegee double-posted this 11 years ago, 24 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,837

@556,832 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
the use of the telegraph was the more relevant part of my analogy there

Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,842

@556,832 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Morse code still has value. Super simple to transmit and receive AND in a Hostile Nuke war scenario where Internet Cell Radio TV infrastructure is easy to destroy in TOTAL - Full wipe out of all silicon based devices with one Electromagnetic Nuke bomb. Morse Code CW wood be the only surviving means of transmission using old fashioned radio tubes and version can be made without even using such tubes.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,843

@previous (Syntax)
Illegible gibberish.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,844

@556,837 (squeegee)
Howdy, pardner. What say we mosey on over to the watering hole?

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,847

@previous (E)
if you're asking if i want to go fishing, then answer is yes. yes i would like that.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #556,850

@556,827 (Syntax)
> Netzero its also expensive compared to other modern plans they have. (not that they are all that modern)
LOL When NetZero started they were limited dial-up for free. (as long as you didn't go over certain limits) Sad to see Net"Zero" end up much like "The 'History' Channel".

@OP
> Seems like it's something people should freely acquire in case of an emergency outage at their cable or dsl provider.
Over here (in Verizonland) your cable and Internet provider is also your phone provider. If one's out, then they're all out, and dial-up isn't going to work anyway. (If the power goes out I have like a two-hour window in which I can call 911, unless I have a charged mobile phone... and, yeah, the cell towers have to be working for that) A lot of places are actively trying to get customers to switch away from the traditional copper landlines they have been using. (which run their own power and are available in an outage)

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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #556,851

@previous (F)
Which is seriously the dumbest shit ever. Everyone should have a landline and at least one princess phone.

Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #556,855

@556,847 (squeegee)
What in tarnation? Pardner, ah'm asking you wanna go wet yer whistle?

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #556,857

@556,828 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
oh my god you fucking moron. radios work because once you broadcast a signal anyone can pick it up at no extra cost of the sender. internet is actually a limited resource, you need wires 'n shit, and there's max capacity because 2 way communication while radio is passive receiver. god damn you are stupid. christ.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #556,859

@556,855 (E)
afraid we wouldn't have much to talk about, yankee, i don't know anything about tea or homosexuals
but if you wanna come fishing you're welcome to come out. just don't scare all the fish off with all your talking

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #556,860

@556,857 (H)
Doesn't Wi-Fi use radio waves?

Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #556,861

@previous (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Oh. My. God. First of all, how is wifi relevant to dial-up? You realize the entire point of dial-up is to go over the phone line? Anyway, intensity matters. And it's two way communication. Do you have a radio tower in your backyard?

Catherine !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #556,863

@previous (H)
Good point, not sure why I asked the question.

No, I don't have a radio tower in my backyard, though I do recall seeing someone with one in theirs once.

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DasSheeple joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #556,864

Y'all retards. Dial-up is expensive cause of the way it works. It fully occupies one line while you're connected, and your ISP needs to "pick up a call" and keep that line exclusive to you while you're browsing the internet.

On the other hand broadband doesn't do this, and is generally cheaper resource wise than dial-up.

Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #556,866

@previous (DasSheeple)
duh

Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #556,871

@556,851 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
> Everyone should have a landline
I agree, and not a landline that is dependent on power to your home. The Verizon deal makes it so that you have a big box somewhere that runs on power to your home and a battery. After the battery runs out, there IS NO PHONE SERVICE. Not emergency numbers. Not anything. If your house is on fire... fuck you. No phone service. I hope a cell tower is available!

And Verizon is actively trying to steer customers away from their traditional landlines and failing to support traditional copper lines. There will eventually be a black-out in some major city, and we will see what the result of what this practice gets us. (a pointless riot and a burned-out city and insurance companies pleading with the government to cover their asses, because why not bail out big business with taxpayer money?? Because... why not? It's not like insurance companies aren't basically bookies? It's cool to bail them out when they bet wrong.)

Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 6 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #556,914

@556,864 (DasSheeple)

> Y'all retards. Dial-up is expensive cause of the way it works. It fully occupies one line while you're connected, and your ISP needs to "pick up a call" and keep that line exclusive to you while you're browsing the internet.
>
> On the other hand broadband doesn't do this, and is generally cheaper resource wise than dial-up.

Wot? Me thinks you are thinking about WiFi. Cable for most is a solid cable of Coax Cable. Future wood be a solid Fiber line. What ever its One Line always connected. Much like getting power from power company or water YOU need a line.

@556,860 (Catherine !TGirlYJKXM)
Yes Cell uses radio except you have to pay in order to decode the broadcast - I think UK still charges people for simple AM FM radio reception. And anyone can rig up an antenna in backyard or on roof to play with airwaves.

Cell vs Land Lines. Cell infrastructure is shit by design in serious emergencies - Land lines have battery backup that can work for weeks if Public power goes off the grid. Cell is good for a few hours in most places - Cell towers like Verizon can work for a couple days but Not AT&T. Super redundant design old Land Line. Almost NO redundant anything with Cell. Cell is the first system to go down in any Earthquake Tornado etc.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #556,930

first of all its a stupid fucking question to ask because dial up is obsolete


second of all: see the first line, its obsolete, hardly anyone uses it anymore and because of that it would take an ungodly amount of work to make those types of connections free, not only that but you would have to be in bed with landline companies


heres a better question: why dont you think about something for at least 8 seconds before making a goddamn thread about it?
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