Topic: If the ideas concering the so called ''id, ego and super-ego'' were true.... then you recommend?
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #41,829
id - often compared to primitive man and evil itself. The id only seeks to submit to desires and those desires are often far from evil until puberty hits and you want to fuck everything. ego - if the id was a horse then the ego would be riding that horse. The ego tries to control the great beast which is the id. The ego tells you that you should not be buying kfc because you cannot afford it.
super-ego - its hard to tell what this is at all, in short, the super ego tells you to not buy kfc because it is unhealthy. If you have too much of it, you are unhappy, too little and you are ruthless.
These 3 entities were once considered as 3 things that makes us all. 3 things that may come in different amounts in all of us. Pretending like you believe it, which one dominates you at this moment in life?
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I wonder who made this draad.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #555,866
Well, if we're only pretending they're real, then I'm not sure. It's a pretty reductionist way of looking at behaviour, so it's hard to say. They'd all have their influences on me at certain times.
Also, the superego isn't hard to understand. Just think of it as "the morality principle" or a sense of responsibility and you've more or less got it.
Oh, and OP, the Triarchic Theory is entry-level Freudian stuff. Get yourself into the psychosexual stages of development if you really want the full Freud experience.
@555,863 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Iceland guy, I'll wager!
Also, the superego isn't hard to understand. Just think of it as "the morality principle" or a sense of responsibility and you've more or less got it.
Oh, and OP, the Triarchic Theory is entry-level Freudian stuff. Get yourself into the psychosexual stages of development if you really want the full Freud experience.
@555,863 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Iceland guy, I'll wager!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #555,869
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
But the sexual stuff is where it all kinds of falls apart. I have searched the great oceans of the Internet for something that will educate me and all i find is a woman explaining that stuff, when she gets to the phallic stage her voice changes by increasing its volume and vigor.
But the sexual stuff is where it all kinds of falls apart. I have searched the great oceans of the Internet for something that will educate me and all i find is a woman explaining that stuff, when she gets to the phallic stage her voice changes by increasing its volume and vigor.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #555,872
@previous (A)
Really? It's a very popular, well-known theory. There should be articles explaining it everywhere.
Wikipedia's own article explains it well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_development#Freudian_psychosexual_development
Really? It's a very popular, well-known theory. There should be articles explaining it everywhere.
Wikipedia's own article explains it well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosexual_development#Freudian_psychosexual_development
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #555,874
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Yeah but all of those things aren't very well described. I want description that is set in careful analysis of the 3 'entities forming and competing.
Yeah but all of those things aren't very well described. I want description that is set in careful analysis of the 3 'entities forming and competing.
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #555,876
I dont understand any of this.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #555,878
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Its far more then reasonable that you do not understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWT22Ow_B04
This guy sort of does a good job of not only describing it all to you but also indoctrinating you into it, which is very important.
Its far more then reasonable that you do not understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWT22Ow_B04
This guy sort of does a good job of not only describing it all to you but also indoctrinating you into it, which is very important.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #555,879
@555,876 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
It's Sigmund Freud's explanation for how human decision making and urges work. He theorised that there were three types of urges in the mind that competed in order to steer a person's decisions.
But don't worry if you don't understand. This stuff isn't relevant today.
@555,874 (A)
Oh. Well then, that should be out there too. I definitely recall learning about how the superego was supposed to form sometime around puberty, and how the ID is present from birth.
It's Sigmund Freud's explanation for how human decision making and urges work. He theorised that there were three types of urges in the mind that competed in order to steer a person's decisions.
But don't worry if you don't understand. This stuff isn't relevant today.
@555,874 (A)
Oh. Well then, that should be out there too. I definitely recall learning about how the superego was supposed to form sometime around puberty, and how the ID is present from birth.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #555,880
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kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #555,884
Is any of this related to sociopaths?
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #555,887
@555,884 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Not really, no.
The triarchic theory might explain sociopaths as lacking a superego, but there's a way better understanding of sociopaths in modern times.
Not really, no.
The triarchic theory might explain sociopaths as lacking a superego, but there's a way better understanding of sociopaths in modern times.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #555,888
@555,884 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
It relates to psychopaths and narcissists. Those two categories are made to look like the same problem with a slight difference, both see people as objects (because they are only concerned with themselves) but the psychopath has a fundamental difference when it comes to the narcissistic, the psychopath is only seeking to please its id which is sexual needs etc... the narsisistic is only searching to fulfill the comforts of the ego like acceptance and praise.
It relates to psychopaths and narcissists. Those two categories are made to look like the same problem with a slight difference, both see people as objects (because they are only concerned with themselves) but the psychopath has a fundamental difference when it comes to the narcissistic, the psychopath is only seeking to please its id which is sexual needs etc... the narsisistic is only searching to fulfill the comforts of the ego like acceptance and praise.
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@555,887 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I know some psychotherapists still use a psychodynamic approach. Do you how much, if at all, modern psychodynamic theory draws on these concepts for, say, a theory of personality?
I know some psychotherapists still use a psychodynamic approach. Do you how much, if at all, modern psychodynamic theory draws on these concepts for, say, a theory of personality?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #555,895
@previous (G)
Sorry, I'm not too familiar with how the approach is in modern times. I'd imagine if there are serious therapists that are still utilising psychodynamic theories, then they've modernised it a bit. Or have stripped out all of the weird stuff. I mean, I think I could see how the focus on childhood development or the triarchic theory could be applied usefully, but not if they're taken overly literally.
Sorry, I'm not too familiar with how the approach is in modern times. I'd imagine if there are serious therapists that are still utilising psychodynamic theories, then they've modernised it a bit. Or have stripped out all of the weird stuff. I mean, I think I could see how the focus on childhood development or the triarchic theory could be applied usefully, but not if they're taken overly literally.