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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#553,743
how computer savvy is your mom
this varies a lot
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^][v]#553,744
hard to fuck up a chromebook but i'd probably not go with the ubuntu one
Lemon Drop !CITRUS3QCY joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 19 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^][v]#553,745
If mom has constant internet access, and can use a computer, then a Chromebook is good. If not, get her a basic PC.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^][v]#553,746
No. Instead, consider a fully rugged MacBook Pro.
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Metæ (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 24 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#553,753
@553,743 (B)
Shes pretty good. Not 1337 but she's often unsure what to do as far as managing antivirus and system administration. I put her on Linux mint a few years ago and she liked how there were no "strange popups".
Lemon Drop !CITRUS3QCY replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#553,755
@previous (Metæ)
Does she have constant internet access?
Metæ (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#553,756
Lemon Drop !CITRUS3QCY replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^][v]#553,760
@previous (Metæ)
Chromebook then, the fastest one.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#553,786
why not just get her an actual laptop
e: dont know what im getting my mom, she already has a pretty good laptop, probably some flowers or something
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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#553,796
@553,745 (Lemon Drop !CITRUS3QCY) > If mom has constant internet access, and can use a computer, then a Chromebook is good. If not, get her a basic PC.
if she can't use a computer than get her a basic pc? that makes the opposite of sense. people who can't use a computer destroy pcs all the time. a chromebook is the best thing for someone who can't use a computer.
@OP
does she do anything other than office and web browsing?
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,855
@OP
You're probably her default tech support guy, so why not a laptop with some flavor of Linux? Distros like Ubuntu and Mint are super user friendly anyway, and she'll have you to call for the more techy stuff.
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,856
@previous (H)
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,857
@previous (E)
I'd just like to stop you right there and say that no1cars
Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,863
@553,856 (E)
Thanks Richard. I don't know what came over me.
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,902
> I'd just like to stop you right there and say that no1cars
i care actually
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,903
you're lucky, my mom hates tech changes. it took her forever to get a smart phone and she's still scared of it. and now that she "knows iStuff" i can't get her too even consider anything else. android might as well be a literal Android, and even iOS stresses her the fuck out even though she's been using an iPad for years now.
When she had to go to Win 8 she almost divorced my dad. lol.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,904
@previous (squeegee)
I can't blame her, Win 8 is horrible.
Metæ (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,905
@553,855 (H)
Due to cost. Chromebooks come in at about $249, now I can get a cheap PC laptop for $249 with the same specs (Intel Celeron, 2GB RAM) but I'd have to install Ubuntu on it and I'm worried the additional overhead of running the full Linux OS will overwhelm the cheap, slow Celeron. Chrome OS is really stripped down and much lighter, due to only needing to run a web browser. Now, I could (with more hassle) install Ubuntu onto a Chromebook with Chrubuntu so I guess there's always that. But, for the same price I'm leaning towards Chromebook because it'll "just work" out of the box with 100% hardware support.
@553,903 (squeegee) @previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Windows 8 is completely out of the question because of the horrible, non-intuitive UI. I mean seriously who thought it would be a good idea to run a fucking phone UI on a laptop?! Also I'm still traumatized from that time my mom's husband got a million virii on our desktop which was (this was 2007 or so) running XP, I know it's not like the bad old days anymore but I'm still wary of Windows. I switched my mom onto Linux Mint after that and she loved it.
I guess I'm just worried about going "full cloud". All my mom does is surf the web. I think I just need to man up and pull the trigger
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squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,907
@previous (Metæ)
my folks had computers with windows 7 but they wanted new computers. my dad buys pre-built PCs for some reason, and they aren't ever any good. he knows i can build better PCs for less money but he never asks me, and i offer, but then he just shows up with a new store bought PC. it's frustrating, because i'd like to get them into MY upgrade cycle because even my old hardware is better than the new pre-builds and they won't fall 7 years behind if they'd let me help.
but they are big into tablets now, and those they keep buying new ones, lol. PCs they want to work for generations, but tablets are basically disposable. it's weird :/
Also fuck pre-built PCs and shit like that because you literally cannot upgrade them. I tried to upgrade my moms video-card because she does a lot of editing, and it would not allow me to disable integrated graphics and use the new card. i googled around and found out you can't install aftermarket parts on that particular PC, it'll only work with proprietary OEM components. i was pissed.
so fuck that shit.
Anonymous F replied with this 11 years ago, 27 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,909
> my folks had computers with windows 7 but they wanted new computers.
so why not just get a new computer but install windows 7 on it instead????????????
Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 48 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,915
@553,905 (Metæ) > I'm worried the additional overhead of running the full Linux OS will overwhelm the cheap, slow Celeron.
I have a laptop that I use all the time that's a dual core celeron with 2GB of ram - just a little bottom-shelf cheapy Compaq from Walmart, and it's run a full Kubuntu distro like a champ for the last four years or so. I don't do any serious gaming on it, but for web/office/movies/music stuff it's great.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 53 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,925
@553,905 (Metæ)
I ran Hardy Heron on a shitty old 2005~ish era Celeron compaq with 512MB for 3 years. I only stopped because the power jack got messed up by the cheap generic Chinese charger my dad ordered.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#553,950
@553,905 (Metæ)
I've run Lucid on an old Pentium III desktop with 512MB RAM for a while. There was noticeable lag when you tried to do more than one thing at a time, but it ran a browser, office suite, and could play & stream video and music.
Metæ (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 17 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#554,276
@553,915 (H) @553,925 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI) @previous (J)
Got the Toshiba Chromebook (http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/192023/Toshiba-Chromebook-With-133-Diagonal-Display/) and I'm on it now. I ultimately chose it over the option of a cheap regular laptop for the following:
*SSD, so faster vs the same processor on a regular HDD (16GB won't matter for my mom's usage)
*"It just works" out of the box. Linux has gotten immeasurably easier to use and is now as easy (if not easier than) Windows, but Chrome OS is even easier still. I want a "set it and forget it" experience for my mom and also, importantly, for me.
*Form factor -- this is the major one. This was $249, 13.3" and 2.95lbs, with 7hr battery life. The $249 regular laptops were 15.6" and 6lbs with a 3hr battery life. The thinner sleeker hardware is just better. I hate hate hate 15.6 laptops. So heavy and clunky.
It's very fast and quiet -- fanless! I like the fact it has no CAPS LOCK key, though the lack of Home and End keys will take some getting used to. The display could be better but for $249 it'll do.
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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#554,286
@previous (Metæ)
7 hours seems a bit low for a chromebook, considering it doesn't have a full operating system to run and the drive is solid state. is that just what it's listed for?