Topic: I think my laptop was damaged by faulty wiring in my house.
Handel !XFpaTU3A5E started this discussion 11 years ago #41,318
OK to make a long story short, basically I had my laptop upstairs in my bedroom plugged in and working perfectly.
I then shut down my laptop and brought it down stairs to the sitting room, plugged it in a realised it wouldn't turn on.
This all happened over the space of a minute. I'm thinking dodgy wiring in the sitting room may have damaged either the laptop or the charger.
The reason for my thinking is that one of the sockets in the sitting room (which is located directly beside the socket I plugged my laptop into) literally burnt out last year while my Xbox was plugged in.
Unfortunately my laptop battery died months ago so I'm waiting to get a loan of a charger from a friend to see will that help.
I then shut down my laptop and brought it down stairs to the sitting room, plugged it in a realised it wouldn't turn on.
This all happened over the space of a minute. I'm thinking dodgy wiring in the sitting room may have damaged either the laptop or the charger.
The reason for my thinking is that one of the sockets in the sitting room (which is located directly beside the socket I plugged my laptop into) literally burnt out last year while my Xbox was plugged in.
Unfortunately my laptop battery died months ago so I'm waiting to get a loan of a charger from a friend to see will that help.
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #549,340
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #549,363
@OP
You don't need to start a new line for each sentence, unless this is meant to be a poem.
You don't need to start a new line for each sentence, unless this is meant to be a poem.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,378
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 28 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,385
@OP
I do not see how faulty wiring can hurt your laptop other then failure to charge the battery.
Yet you say the battery died months ago. Doubt an external charger is going to fix that. Might but doubt it.
I do not see how faulty wiring can hurt your laptop other then failure to charge the battery.
Yet you say the battery died months ago. Doubt an external charger is going to fix that. Might but doubt it.
Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,422
Lothario Casanova !LOVERlfjCM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,429
User error.
Handel !XFpaTU3A5E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 11 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,553
@549,363 (C)
I live in a free country, I do as I please.
@549,385 (E)
> I do not see how faulty wiring can hurt your laptop other then failure to charge the battery.
> Yet you say the battery died months ago. Doubt an external charger is going to fix that. Might but doubt it.
I'm saying the faulty wiring caused a voltage spike which may have damaged my laptop and/or charger.
I live in a free country, I do as I please.
@549,385 (E)
> I do not see how faulty wiring can hurt your laptop other then failure to charge the battery.
> Yet you say the battery died months ago. Doubt an external charger is going to fix that. Might but doubt it.
I'm saying the faulty wiring caused a voltage spike which may have damaged my laptop and/or charger.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,570
Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,572
Handel !XFpaTU3A5E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,574
Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,578
Handel !XFpaTU3A5E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 54 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,579
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,583
You should sue
Get yourself electrocuted first, though. And then claim the wiring did it.
Get yourself electrocuted first, though. And then claim the wiring did it.
Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 38 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,588
@549,553 (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
> I'm saying the faulty wiring caused a voltage spike which may have damaged my laptop and/or charger.
Smoke/charring from back side of a socket - usually the result of poor installation. Frayed wires end up touching and shorting OUT. This results in a voltage DROP - Not a Spike.
Some nerd will come along who took Electronics 101 or Physics and point out that a Spark can cause Voltages to climb wayyyy up. And Yes that is true but NOT for house wiring where there is insufficient inductance to support such an event.
Rare events like a caterpillar or other large insect crawling across the back side of the socket can also short out the connection.
Handle I just gotta point out that after that first event
> The reason for my thinking is that one of the sockets in the sitting room (which is located directly beside the socket I plugged my laptop into) literally burnt out last year
Burt out as in - required removal of the socket plate and cleaned up and replaced or wires cleaned up and all re-installed - I cannot imagine a case where there was smoke n such and nothing was done?
Usually this kind of thing ends up with a small or large house fire later.
> I'm saying the faulty wiring caused a voltage spike which may have damaged my laptop and/or charger.
Smoke/charring from back side of a socket - usually the result of poor installation. Frayed wires end up touching and shorting OUT. This results in a voltage DROP - Not a Spike.
Some nerd will come along who took Electronics 101 or Physics and point out that a Spark can cause Voltages to climb wayyyy up. And Yes that is true but NOT for house wiring where there is insufficient inductance to support such an event.
Rare events like a caterpillar or other large insect crawling across the back side of the socket can also short out the connection.
Handle I just gotta point out that after that first event
> The reason for my thinking is that one of the sockets in the sitting room (which is located directly beside the socket I plugged my laptop into) literally burnt out last year
Burt out as in - required removal of the socket plate and cleaned up and replaced or wires cleaned up and all re-installed - I cannot imagine a case where there was smoke n such and nothing was done?
Usually this kind of thing ends up with a small or large house fire later.
Handel !XFpaTU3A5E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,590
@previous (Syntax)> I cannot imagine a case where there was smoke n such and nothing was done?
There was smoke. Nothing was done, I just took that photo.
You obviously don't know many tradesmen.
Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,594
@previous (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
> There was smoke. Nothing was done, I just took that photo.
> You obviously don't know many tradesmen.
Actually I do. Ever since I decided to play Monopoly for real and buy houses and condos to lease out as income - I have dealt with a variety of sloppy drunken tradesmen -
I just need to point out -------------> That smoke left carbon behind the panel. Adding more Future issues. Much like tooth decay that is left untreated - It will not heal itself and it will just get worse UNTIL Pain lots of Pain - You could kill the circuit breaker and remove the wall plate and inspect for yourself. Does not take a tradesmen to look at - clean up - EVEN Fix it in total.
There is usually enough slack in the wire to just unscrew the connections and cut back the burnt stuff and wash all with rubbing alcohol or Vodka does a great clean up job. Leave not a speck of burnt anything back there. Or if its really a bad mess just toss out and replace the fixture.
> There was smoke. Nothing was done, I just took that photo.
> You obviously don't know many tradesmen.
Actually I do. Ever since I decided to play Monopoly for real and buy houses and condos to lease out as income - I have dealt with a variety of sloppy drunken tradesmen -
I just need to point out -------------> That smoke left carbon behind the panel. Adding more Future issues. Much like tooth decay that is left untreated - It will not heal itself and it will just get worse UNTIL Pain lots of Pain - You could kill the circuit breaker and remove the wall plate and inspect for yourself. Does not take a tradesmen to look at - clean up - EVEN Fix it in total.
There is usually enough slack in the wire to just unscrew the connections and cut back the burnt stuff and wash all with rubbing alcohol or Vodka does a great clean up job. Leave not a speck of burnt anything back there. Or if its really a bad mess just toss out and replace the fixture.
Handel !XFpaTU3A5E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,595
Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,601
@previous (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
OK - No need to fiddle - Get dad to fix it OR - Consider buying a large fire extinguisher - Usually not effective because the wall plate will block such from doing any good as the fire inside the wall does wot fire does.
OK - No need to fiddle - Get dad to fix it OR - Consider buying a large fire extinguisher - Usually not effective because the wall plate will block such from doing any good as the fire inside the wall does wot fire does.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,631
@549,590 (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
Actual qualified electrician here. That picture is so fucking dodgy and if you live in a rental that's very illegal. High risk of fire and shock.
Actual qualified electrician here. That picture is so fucking dodgy and if you live in a rental that's very illegal. High risk of fire and shock.
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,632
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,634
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,636
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Oh fine, keep your personas seperate if you must.
Just consider doing that act again. Many here found the ShitArse character very entertaining and endearing.
Oh fine, keep your personas seperate if you must.
Just consider doing that act again. Many here found the ShitArse character very entertaining and endearing.
Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,638
@549,579 (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
If he is an electrician ironically, logic dictates that he is a hipster faggot. Thanks.
If he is an electrician ironically, logic dictates that he is a hipster faggot. Thanks.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,640
@549,631 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
I should also add that in an event of a fire the insurance will be invalid and you as well as the building owner would most likely be held responable for all damage and injury to other properties and people. That single 13A fitting has a higher heat rating than the pvc insulation on the 2.5mm cables so you most likely have poor/weak insulation accross your ring circuit, if you draw a large amount of current you could have a fire. Also, 13A sockets only come in single or double and I can see the middle of the back box between that single and double so you got a bunch of DIY fuckery going on back there. I would bet you have no CPC protection behind that socket with the plug. If you end up with a fault on that appliance the current will have no place to run and become live.
I should also add that in an event of a fire the insurance will be invalid and you as well as the building owner would most likely be held responable for all damage and injury to other properties and people. That single 13A fitting has a higher heat rating than the pvc insulation on the 2.5mm cables so you most likely have poor/weak insulation accross your ring circuit, if you draw a large amount of current you could have a fire. Also, 13A sockets only come in single or double and I can see the middle of the back box between that single and double so you got a bunch of DIY fuckery going on back there. I would bet you have no CPC protection behind that socket with the plug. If you end up with a fault on that appliance the current will have no place to run and become live.
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Handel !XFpaTU3A5E (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 36 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,650
@549,631 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> Actual qualified electrician here.
So is he, he's just very bad at it.
> That picture is so fucking dodgy and if you live in a rental that's very illegal. High risk of fire and shock.
We're home owners thanks.
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> Also, 13A sockets only come in single or double and I can see the middle of the back box between that single and double so you got a bunch of DIY fuckery going on back there.
See above.
> If you end up with a fault on that appliance the current will have no place to run and become live.
The current appliance plugged in is an oil filled radiator, it currently doesn't have a fuse in the socket.
All I really care about though is my laptop, could shitty wiring fuck up my laptop and/or charger?
> Actual qualified electrician here.
So is he, he's just very bad at it.
> That picture is so fucking dodgy and if you live in a rental that's very illegal. High risk of fire and shock.
We're home owners thanks.
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> Also, 13A sockets only come in single or double and I can see the middle of the back box between that single and double so you got a bunch of DIY fuckery going on back there.
See above.
> If you end up with a fault on that appliance the current will have no place to run and become live.
The current appliance plugged in is an oil filled radiator, it currently doesn't have a fuse in the socket.
All I really care about though is my laptop, could shitty wiring fuck up my laptop and/or charger?
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 29 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #549,653
@previous (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
Well, shitty wiring clearly fucked up your outlet, so take a guess.
Also, it's dumb but try just unplugging the charger and leaving it unplugged overnight and then try it in a good outlet. A lot of my stuff tends to just revive itself for no apparent reason if you leave it alone for awhile.
Well, shitty wiring clearly fucked up your outlet, so take a guess.
Also, it's dumb but try just unplugging the charger and leaving it unplugged overnight and then try it in a good outlet. A lot of my stuff tends to just revive itself for no apparent reason if you leave it alone for awhile.
Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,675
@549,650 (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)
> All I really care about though is my laptop, could shitty wiring fuck up my laptop and/or charger?
Worst case is the outlet you use is dead so the laptop does not charge. Other then that NO.
> All I really care about though is my laptop, could shitty wiring fuck up my laptop and/or charger?
Worst case is the outlet you use is dead so the laptop does not charge. Other then that NO.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,740
@549,650 (Handel !XFpaTU3A5E)Internal fuse could have burned out, that's about it. Charger is most likely 12v or 24v so no major damage. If if your old man has voltage indicator or magic pen use that to check.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,741
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,744
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Magic pen/voltage indicator. It detects the magnetic field created by current to tell you a conducter is live or not@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
> What is that thing?
Magic pen. Detects magnetic created by current so it tells you if a conductor is live or not
Magic pen/voltage indicator. It detects the magnetic field created by current to tell you a conducter is live or not@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
> What is that thing?
Magic pen. Detects magnetic created by current so it tells you if a conductor is live or not
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw double-posted this 11 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,745
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,772
Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,783
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Just stabbing as a guess.
It wood light up, only IF you had a magnetic personality.
Just stabbing as a guess.
It wood light up, only IF you had a magnetic personality.
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,802
Anonymous H replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #549,808
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
That wasn't even amusing let alone funny.
That wasn't even amusing let alone funny.
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@previous (H)
No, but you know what I do like?
ShitArse. He was the best Minichan troll of all time!
No, but you know what I do like?
ShitArse. He was the best Minichan troll of all time!