Topic: the most profound experience you will ever have.
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #41,218
There exists a psychological experience that i do not know the name of. It happens in a moment of hysteria where the hysteric loses all identity with symbolic
reality. What this means is that all subjectivity of human nature is erased, your favorite food is just food all of the sudden, your worst experience is just an
experience.
I really can't explain it, usually it happens during a traumatic event. Holocaust survivors experienced it. Its where cruelty stops appearing as something cruel
or happiness stops appearing as happiness. You still have feelings but what used to give you feelings no longer gives you feelings. Its like a blank slate.
If you ever experience this, please let us know how.
For a long time now, there is a debate among therapists and such, concerning if this experience is a good or a bad thing. What do you think it is?
reality. What this means is that all subjectivity of human nature is erased, your favorite food is just food all of the sudden, your worst experience is just an
experience.
I really can't explain it, usually it happens during a traumatic event. Holocaust survivors experienced it. Its where cruelty stops appearing as something cruel
or happiness stops appearing as happiness. You still have feelings but what used to give you feelings no longer gives you feelings. Its like a blank slate.
If you ever experience this, please let us know how.
For a long time now, there is a debate among therapists and such, concerning if this experience is a good or a bad thing. What do you think it is?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 49 minutes later[^] [v] #548,132
Is it a Murakami book?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #548,136
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #548,137
kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #548,138
Where did you first hear of this?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #548,143
> the most profound experience you will ever have.
It's called "cuckolding"
It's called "cuckolding"
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #548,144
@548,138 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
In a movie called perverts guide to ideology. Also read some about it in a book named a conversation with zizek
In a movie called perverts guide to ideology. Also read some about it in a book named a conversation with zizek
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 40 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,152
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 49 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,153
Is it called ego death or disassociation?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,174
@548,152 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Its very worth it to check it out.
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I am not at all sure. The movie and the book only talk very briefly about it within a context that is itself within a context. I am way out of my head here, but if you are interested in this kind
of stuff why not check out the movie i suggested?
If i remember correctly, Zizek called the experience subjective destution.
https://thehiddenbay.net/torrent/8920967/The_Pervert_s_Guide_to_Ideology
Its very worth it to check it out.
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I am not at all sure. The movie and the book only talk very briefly about it within a context that is itself within a context. I am way out of my head here, but if you are interested in this kind
of stuff why not check out the movie i suggested?
If i remember correctly, Zizek called the experience subjective destution.
https://thehiddenbay.net/torrent/8920967/The_Pervert_s_Guide_to_Ideology
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,212
It is disassociation. I have experienced it during long, tortuous work experiences.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,213
@OP
Stopped reading when you started mashing the enter key like a fucking moron. You don't need to insert line breaks manually.
Stopped reading when you started mashing the enter key like a fucking moron. You don't need to insert line breaks manually.
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Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,214
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,216
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 9 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,287
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Well a guy called zizek appears inside famous and less famous movies, using the scenes as analogy to talk about ideology and his own take on it.
Well a guy called zizek appears inside famous and less famous movies, using the scenes as analogy to talk about ideology and his own take on it.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,321
@548,212 (I)
Sorry to hear that man. I think though that now you are talking about something else. Its not really just an experience but more like a condition.
In the book, there was a brief neurologic theory about this condition. It talked about how in certain conditions (like in a nazi concentration camp) the fear and suffering is so much that the
brain reshapes itself in a way related to neuroplasticity. Most of the activity (inside the brain) within people in horrific conditions are said to be focused on primitive parts of the brain
which typically has very little to do with personality.
So when they get out of these camps, they are the same but yet not really the same because all those old connections within their brains have been lowered. The connections are still there but their
brain simply doesn't use them naturally. Its very hard to explain this since i really don't understand it fully, i give up.
Sorry to hear that man. I think though that now you are talking about something else. Its not really just an experience but more like a condition.
In the book, there was a brief neurologic theory about this condition. It talked about how in certain conditions (like in a nazi concentration camp) the fear and suffering is so much that the
brain reshapes itself in a way related to neuroplasticity. Most of the activity (inside the brain) within people in horrific conditions are said to be focused on primitive parts of the brain
which typically has very little to do with personality.
So when they get out of these camps, they are the same but yet not really the same because all those old connections within their brains have been lowered. The connections are still there but their
brain simply doesn't use them naturally. Its very hard to explain this since i really don't understand it fully, i give up.
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,323
@previous (L)
Ok I understand now. If I understand what you are saying, the brain (probably as a means of self-protection and survival) shuts down the cortex areas where complex human emotions and moral judgments reside, and resorts to the more primitive parts of the brain which see all things as simply survival matters: does it hurt me or not?
Ok I understand now. If I understand what you are saying, the brain (probably as a means of self-protection and survival) shuts down the cortex areas where complex human emotions and moral judgments reside, and resorts to the more primitive parts of the brain which see all things as simply survival matters: does it hurt me or not?
Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,328
@previous (I)
> does it hurt me or not?
Well for that to happen something truly horrible must have happened. But once that traumatic experience is over? I am not sure, its debated. Therapists complain that their patients simply seem to not
exist, that at most the patients think that they think.
> does it hurt me or not?
Well for that to happen something truly horrible must have happened. But once that traumatic experience is over? I am not sure, its debated. Therapists complain that their patients simply seem to not
exist, that at most the patients think that they think.
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 54 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,329
Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,337
@previous (I)
I am pretty sure that they are still in pain. I think the book talked about a patient who was in pain but that at the same time the pain was somehow weirdly different.
I am pretty sure that they are still in pain. I think the book talked about a patient who was in pain but that at the same time the pain was somehow weirdly different.
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,342
Anonymous L replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,344
@previous (I)
Well good luck finding reading material. I am starting to think i might not actually understand what i am talking about at all and that the book i mentioned isn't the book where that subject took place.
Have a nice day buddy.
Well good luck finding reading material. I am starting to think i might not actually understand what i am talking about at all and that the book i mentioned isn't the book where that subject took place.
Have a nice day buddy.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #548,345
Itt zizek for big dummies
