Topic: What do you think is the weakness of my ''imaginary movement''?
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago#41,217
I think MRA/feminism is the same thing. Many of the people in these groups will be disgusted by the idea that they are alike which is ironic since
they are at that moment behaving the exact same way.
You see, feminism and MRA, as much as it might be virtues in the eyes of their members, is not for everybody. It creates a condition of paranoia where
men or women are pathologically judged for something they are not. Any institute that does not have a equal amount of both genders gets labeled as anti-female
or anti-male.
None of this is good but yet it is (according to me) a normal reaction when you study an ideology that is centered on the idea that the other gender has it better
then you. When you think like that, men or women are no longer individuals but just female or male. So as funny as it seems, the purpose of those two movements
are creating the opposite of what was intended, sexism.
I think the solution to this is a movement where the aim is not to make us equal but to make us valued for our gender. In such a movement the goal is not equality
but instead love. We will figure out what women and men both fear and worry about and fix those things in a radical anti-gender equality way. We will fix things
by trying to add special privileges to both genders. These privileges will not be centered on creating gender roles but instead gender rights where the gender
assigned rights will not influence your future career but the status of your gender.
Many of us males would not want to be forcefully dressed in women clothing yet there are videos on youtube where this happens to little boys. I have also heard
that many women wish they could take the bus without there being sketchy men in them.
The imaginary movement would thus aim to make it child abuse by law to forcefully dress a boy in women clothing, and create a woman only transport. All of that in the name of love. This is just an example. Also fuck you angry guy.
When it comes to transsexuals, i guess a country should just decide according to their own ideas of those people.
> All women transport would be discriminatory to many men
Its only so if it is done in a certain way, like if men were to be judged that they are unworthy to be trusted around women. I think that my way is completely different or at least tolerable since
it is done out of respect rather then disgust.
Its like when women and men go to different bathrooms, its not at all about hating or discriminating the other gender but rather about making our lives easier as we shit and piss.
Also, believe it or not, i faced the exact same criticism with this suggestion except it was said to be sexism against women.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#548,109
@previous (A)
Catherine, why are you doing this anonymously?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#548,112
I don't think that is necessarily true. It would offend some feminists and MRA, but the majority of people do not belong to those groups. The majority are concerned about the well being of their
sons or daughters and so on....
This might appear as a light in the darkness to them since the message is love the opposite gender rather then the opposite gender is evil
Anonymous D replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,120
@548,112 (A)
Why would I take your boyfriend away from you Catherine?
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,121
I agree with you, really i do. But the fact of the matter is that right now, racism, sexism and all kinds of discrimination is happening.
What this makes me think is that equality means not to be treated the same way but instead to be defended equally against such things. This means special treatment depending on who you are as who you
are might mean you face different problems.
Triptych !!/xkPL9myM replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,129
@previous (E)
i kind of agree with you but
aren't most of these problems a result of how society treats these groups of people
if so then you have to treat the root of it ya know
if i misinterpreted lemme know, i haven't slept
Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,130
You did not misinterpret. When you are talking about dealing with the root of the problem, what do you mean? Because it is exactly gender itself being forced to seem as irrelevant yet if anything feminism/MRA proves the opposite as people take sides in the gender war wich is a war where both think they are the ones oppressed.
Like, to clarify, the more feminism gets popular the more MRA gets popular. In these conditions violence is a reality as one side refuses to empathize with the other.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 54 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,140
@548,127 (Triptych !!/xkPL9myM)
What special privileges are we referring to?
kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,141
@548,101 (A)
They have womens only subway cars in Japan.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,142
@548,099 (kook !!mCVqftDha) @previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
All-female transport is common in a number of Asian countries, due to the high incidence of sexual assault on crowded buses and trains. Granted, no woman should fear sharing public transport with any male, but it's an effective stop-gap measure until a permanent solution is found.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 28 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,145
Icelandguy thread
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#548,149