Topic: I randomly found this on youtube, a child testifying about Ritual Satanic child sex abuse.
kook !!mCVqftDha started this discussion 11 years ago #41,170
Whistle Blower Child a Witness Statment
At about 9:35, the little girl starts talking about killing and eating babies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMiYMzREseo
At about 9:35, the little girl starts talking about killing and eating babies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMiYMzREseo
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later[^] [v] #547,421
@OP
Were you just randomly looking up "satanic child abuse" on YouTube or something? LOL fuck, Kook, never change.
Oh wow! The US got Satanic Panic in the 80s. Is it only hitting the UK now??
Were you just randomly looking up "satanic child abuse" on YouTube or something? LOL fuck, Kook, never change.
Oh wow! The US got Satanic Panic in the 80s. Is it only hitting the UK now??
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,425
The kid is saying that they slaughter babies and were putting baby meat in the school food. Seriously?
kook !!mCVqftDha (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,427
kook !!mCVqftDha (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 36 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,428
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,429
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
A Google search turned up a lot of articles saying that the children were physically and emotionally abused to coerce them into telling these stories.
A Google search turned up a lot of articles saying that the children were physically and emotionally abused to coerce them into telling these stories.
kook !!mCVqftDha (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,430
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
this is a long ass interview, and she doesnt sound rehearsed. I'm at 47:16
this is a long ass interview, and she doesnt sound rehearsed. I'm at 47:16
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 45 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,431
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3014406/Police-hunt-mother-tortured-children-inventing-claims.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3014406/Police-hunt-mother-tortured-children-inventing-claims.html
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,432
@547,427 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> I think that it might have been suggested to me by Youtube. lol
Wow. If there was some kind of Minichan achievement for being sick and creepy... Well, to4str would probably win, but you might come in a close second while actually being liked by most of the userbase!
I assume you're familiar with the McMartin Preschool Trials. Mention of a Ms. Martin/Marden/Something (The school nurse) here kind of flashed me back to that whole media ordeal.
For people too lazy to Google and since syntax isn't here to copypasta for us:
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I'm so willing to believe this, but... Daily Mail? Hmmmm... Gonna need some source more reliable than gossip.
> I think that it might have been suggested to me by Youtube. lol
Wow. If there was some kind of Minichan achievement for being sick and creepy... Well, to4str would probably win, but you might come in a close second while actually being liked by most of the userbase!
I assume you're familiar with the McMartin Preschool Trials. Mention of a Ms. Martin/Marden/Something (The school nurse) here kind of flashed me back to that whole media ordeal.
For people too lazy to Google and since syntax isn't here to copypasta for us:
The McMartin preschool trial was a day care sexual abuse case of the 1980s, prosecuted by the Los Angelas District Attorney Ira Reiner . Members of the McMartin family, who operated a preschool in California, were charged with numerous acts of sexual abuse of children in their care. Accusations were made in 1983. Arrests and the pretrial investigation ran from 1984 to 1987, and the trial ran from 1987 to 1990. After six years of criminal trials, no convictions were obtained, and all charges were dropped in 1990. When the trial ended in 1990 it had been the longest and most expensive criminal trial in American history. The case was part of day care sex abuse hysteria, a moral panic over alleged Satanic ritual abuse in the 1980s and early 1990s.
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I'm so willing to believe this, but... Daily Mail? Hmmmm... Gonna need some source more reliable than gossip.
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squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,433
kook !!mCVqftDha (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 9 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,434
@547,432 (B)
Those kids were saying crazy shit! They were all, "then me and the other children rode penis shaped elevators down into the torture rooms beneath the schools". And the investigators were acting like they found a vending machine that spewed out endless quarters.
Those kids were saying crazy shit! They were all, "then me and the other children rode penis shaped elevators down into the torture rooms beneath the schools". And the investigators were acting like they found a vending machine that spewed out endless quarters.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,435
@547,432 (B)
Dailymail was a poor choice, but that was just a random pick of the many articles I found saying these stories were fabricated and the children were tortured into telling them. I find it far more likely that the mother forced the children to make wild accusations about the father (she was fighting for custody) than that people were shipping live babies in the mail, torturing them, killing them, and putting baby meat in food. There are all sorts of internet conspiracy theories about this, but they found no evidence of baby sacrifice and lots of evidence that the children were abused.
Dailymail was a poor choice, but that was just a random pick of the many articles I found saying these stories were fabricated and the children were tortured into telling them. I find it far more likely that the mother forced the children to make wild accusations about the father (she was fighting for custody) than that people were shipping live babies in the mail, torturing them, killing them, and putting baby meat in food. There are all sorts of internet conspiracy theories about this, but they found no evidence of baby sacrifice and lots of evidence that the children were abused.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,436
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,437
@547,434 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
> Those kids were saying crazy shit!
...and having a Satanic church room at your school where all the staff and parents sex the kids and teach them to cut heads off babies is totally normal... Ooooookay. It's not quite as surreal, I'll give you that, but yeah... just yeah... this kid's story is pretty nuts. I don't know who she has been talking to before the video, but I would assume most of this is pretty over the top. I never thought I'd say that a Daily Mail story sounded like a rational response to anything, but until evidence of a mass Satanic cult is uncovered it sounds like the most plausible explanation.
> Those kids were saying crazy shit!
...and having a Satanic church room at your school where all the staff and parents sex the kids and teach them to cut heads off babies is totally normal... Ooooookay. It's not quite as surreal, I'll give you that, but yeah... just yeah... this kid's story is pretty nuts. I don't know who she has been talking to before the video, but I would assume most of this is pretty over the top. I never thought I'd say that a Daily Mail story sounded like a rational response to anything, but until evidence of a mass Satanic cult is uncovered it sounds like the most plausible explanation.
Anonymous B double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #547,438
@547,435 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Yeah, I Googled it. That those responses were fabricated seems pretty spot on. I agree with you, but I'm just giving you shit for citing the Daily Mail like it was a respectable publication.
Yeah, I Googled it. That those responses were fabricated seems pretty spot on. I agree with you, but I'm just giving you shit for citing the Daily Mail like it was a respectable publication.
kook !!mCVqftDha (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #547,439
@547,437 (B)
In a lot of those cases, the police led the conversations,and things were brought up that arent even physically possible. This seems different.
In a lot of those cases, the police led the conversations,and things were brought up that arent even physically possible. This seems different.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #547,443
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #547,444
@547,439 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
Kids make up a lot of crazy shit, and are better at lying than people realize. Especially when they're lying because they were tortured. Penis shaped elevators that lead to secret satanic ritual rooms underneath the school? C'mon.
Kids make up a lot of crazy shit, and are better at lying than people realize. Especially when they're lying because they were tortured. Penis shaped elevators that lead to secret satanic ritual rooms underneath the school? C'mon.
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #547,445
@547,439 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
My gut reaction says no. That most of (maybe all?) the staff and parents were part of it?? Uh... Really? No one came forward after being approached to rape kids and murder babies?? Not one member of a school full of staff wanting (ostensibly) to help children objected to this? Okay... So, lets find the basement temple and all the baby corpses. They did that in the McMartin case, yes? And they found... nothing.
I'm all in favor of keeping child abusers away from children, but I also feel that extraordinary claims should require extraordinary proof. Where are the bodies of all these babies? Where is the church? Why did no one come forward and why is no one coming forward to corroborate the story? Did a whole mess of child abuse fetishists just happen to settle down in one area and send their kids to the same school? Wouldn't at least someone among the staff or parents try to contact authorities if they knew this was going on?
It all just seems way too unlikely an event to accept on the testimony of one young girl who has been through fuck knows what and may have been coached to tell this story. I'm not saying that we should dismiss this girl's problems or dismiss her on the basis that she is telling an incredible story. She obviously needs some attention, and she has probably been through some kind of personal hell that I would not wish on my worst enemies. This girl probably needs some help. In the meantime, we should probably try to assess the story from an objective perspective and investigate it. Not to say that her claims aren't going to pan out, but lets look carefully and objectively before we leap to conclusions about it.
My gut reaction says no. That most of (maybe all?) the staff and parents were part of it?? Uh... Really? No one came forward after being approached to rape kids and murder babies?? Not one member of a school full of staff wanting (ostensibly) to help children objected to this? Okay... So, lets find the basement temple and all the baby corpses. They did that in the McMartin case, yes? And they found... nothing.
I'm all in favor of keeping child abusers away from children, but I also feel that extraordinary claims should require extraordinary proof. Where are the bodies of all these babies? Where is the church? Why did no one come forward and why is no one coming forward to corroborate the story? Did a whole mess of child abuse fetishists just happen to settle down in one area and send their kids to the same school? Wouldn't at least someone among the staff or parents try to contact authorities if they knew this was going on?
It all just seems way too unlikely an event to accept on the testimony of one young girl who has been through fuck knows what and may have been coached to tell this story. I'm not saying that we should dismiss this girl's problems or dismiss her on the basis that she is telling an incredible story. She obviously needs some attention, and she has probably been through some kind of personal hell that I would not wish on my worst enemies. This girl probably needs some help. In the meantime, we should probably try to assess the story from an objective perspective and investigate it. Not to say that her claims aren't going to pan out, but lets look carefully and objectively before we leap to conclusions about it.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #547,447
@previous (B)
I used to not believe in ritual satanic child abuse, but then I met Matt Miller. And he told us that it happened to him. So now I belieb.
I used to not believe in ritual satanic child abuse, but then I met Matt Miller. And he told us that it happened to him. So now I belieb.
Oatmeal !LOVERlfjCM joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 52 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #547,452
I believe that she could be telling the truth. Demons are spirits are very real. Also, what you do not know about the McMillan case in Texas: A second group dug underneath, and they DID find some short tunnels, AND a tunnel to the house next door!
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #547,454
A lot of these really weird child testimonies come about due to suggestive interviewing by the police or prosecution, or just some other outside influence upon the child's memory.
I studied one such case for a psychology essay (the case's name escapes me at the moment), and the children were saying things like one of the alleged abusers could fly, or that an elephant had injured a pupil on school grounds. Crazy stuff.
I studied one such case for a psychology essay (the case's name escapes me at the moment), and the children were saying things like one of the alleged abusers could fly, or that an elephant had injured a pupil on school grounds. Crazy stuff.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #547,462
The Asshole double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #547,463
@547,454 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I studied one such case for a psychology essay (the case's name escapes me at the moment), and the children were saying things like one of the alleged abusers could fly, or that an elephant had injured a pupil on school grounds. Crazy stuff.
Pink Floyd could have probably made a song about this!!!
> I studied one such case for a psychology essay (the case's name escapes me at the moment), and the children were saying things like one of the alleged abusers could fly, or that an elephant had injured a pupil on school grounds. Crazy stuff.
Pink Floyd could have probably made a song about this!!!
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #547,505
This shit was on the heels of the idiotic "backwards messages in metal music" horseshit. Geraldo Rivera is a villain in this shit with his god dammned television show he had. He was previously famous for opening Al Capone's vault on live TV to reveal... FUCKIN' NOTHING
Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #547,509
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 days later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #549,275
In a shocking development, the kids were full of shit and being forced to lie by their mother and her new boyfriend.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32357195
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32357195
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 12 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #549,482
Anonymous I replied with this 11 years ago, 23 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #549,496
so like what happened
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 15 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #549,501
@549,482 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Right, that does it. I'm sorry, Broseph, but I can't contain myself any longer.
Not really. I might be committing political suicide by saying this, and be accused of selling out, but here it goes: I want to get away from the Kimmo stylesheet altogether. I want to get away from the idea of being a chan altogether. I want to create a discussion board that is more like a social network than anything else. It would be like Facebook, with the focus being on the board and real discussion rather than it focusing on groups, likes, wall-posts, pokes, games, etc. It would give you the option to post anonymously rather than forcing you to register, but registering and having a profile would be an option. It would be like twitter, but would encourage intelligent conversation rather than 100 character "tweets" that seem to be dumbing down the nation. It would be like a blog, but people would actually care about it, because rather than being a blog in the sense that it's a single website about you, it's interactive and everyone is tied together through the social network. You could have a "friends" list, but it would be more like a list of favorite posters where you watch for their posts/threads, rather than a restrictive list. It will be like Facebook WAS, back when people actually joined groups and went into the discussion tab to have actual discussion, before they started putting ridiculous restrictions on groups and encouraging people to just "like" corporations instead and have you play mindless games so they can sell your information to advertisers. You'd still have the same freedom of speech, and be able to post anything from chan bullshit to legitimate reporters using it as a medium to post their news articles or blogs. It would be like youtube, but the focus would be on discussion rather than video, but the idea of it being user generated content is the same. Privacy would never be an issue, because you'd still have the option to post anonymously and no logging in would be required.
I warned you it was political suicide. I know some of you must think I'm joking and that I just don't get it. I know I probably sound like Kimmo several years ago, posting about stuff where it was obvious to everyone but him that only he thought his ideas were a good idea. The difference is, I'm not a sociopath, I don't want to do this because I think I deserve a billion dollars, I don't think it's guaranteed to be the next big thing, and I understand that it's not for everyone, so I have no intention of spamming my site all over the god damn place trying to attract attention from people who will obviously hate it. I just know there are a lot of people just like me out there who miss the old youtube, miss the old facebook, hate the teenage drama of myspace, and are sickened by the watered down content and pointless updates of twitter. There are people out there who love the free speech of blogs and chan sites, but hate the meaningless shit that fills most chans and the fact that most blogs are just people who only want to talk about themselves or think they're real reporters because they have a website. I know the internet market is already flooded with so many social networking and sharing sites that I might just be insane. Maybe I really am like Kimmo and I'm trying to reinvent the wheel just because there's not a site out there that's not EXACTLY what I want it to be. If that's the case, just say so. If there's a social networking site out there that's ridiculously close to what I'm describing here, just say so, and I'll leave you alone and I'll go there instead. I'm not going to be like Kimmo and go ahead with an idea when everyone tells me it's lame and refuse to take any advice and call anyone who disagree with me a troll, but if you read this and you feel the same way, if your're like me and feel like there are millions of people out there who feel the same way we do, if your're sick of settling for what's already out there and feel like the internet needs a new niche for everyone who is like us...
JOIN ME
Or don't because I realize that was a little over the top.
Right, that does it. I'm sorry, Broseph, but I can't contain myself any longer.
Not really. I might be committing political suicide by saying this, and be accused of selling out, but here it goes: I want to get away from the Kimmo stylesheet altogether. I want to get away from the idea of being a chan altogether. I want to create a discussion board that is more like a social network than anything else. It would be like Facebook, with the focus being on the board and real discussion rather than it focusing on groups, likes, wall-posts, pokes, games, etc. It would give you the option to post anonymously rather than forcing you to register, but registering and having a profile would be an option. It would be like twitter, but would encourage intelligent conversation rather than 100 character "tweets" that seem to be dumbing down the nation. It would be like a blog, but people would actually care about it, because rather than being a blog in the sense that it's a single website about you, it's interactive and everyone is tied together through the social network. You could have a "friends" list, but it would be more like a list of favorite posters where you watch for their posts/threads, rather than a restrictive list. It will be like Facebook WAS, back when people actually joined groups and went into the discussion tab to have actual discussion, before they started putting ridiculous restrictions on groups and encouraging people to just "like" corporations instead and have you play mindless games so they can sell your information to advertisers. You'd still have the same freedom of speech, and be able to post anything from chan bullshit to legitimate reporters using it as a medium to post their news articles or blogs. It would be like youtube, but the focus would be on discussion rather than video, but the idea of it being user generated content is the same. Privacy would never be an issue, because you'd still have the option to post anonymously and no logging in would be required.
I warned you it was political suicide. I know some of you must think I'm joking and that I just don't get it. I know I probably sound like Kimmo several years ago, posting about stuff where it was obvious to everyone but him that only he thought his ideas were a good idea. The difference is, I'm not a sociopath, I don't want to do this because I think I deserve a billion dollars, I don't think it's guaranteed to be the next big thing, and I understand that it's not for everyone, so I have no intention of spamming my site all over the god damn place trying to attract attention from people who will obviously hate it. I just know there are a lot of people just like me out there who miss the old youtube, miss the old facebook, hate the teenage drama of myspace, and are sickened by the watered down content and pointless updates of twitter. There are people out there who love the free speech of blogs and chan sites, but hate the meaningless shit that fills most chans and the fact that most blogs are just people who only want to talk about themselves or think they're real reporters because they have a website. I know the internet market is already flooded with so many social networking and sharing sites that I might just be insane. Maybe I really am like Kimmo and I'm trying to reinvent the wheel just because there's not a site out there that's not EXACTLY what I want it to be. If that's the case, just say so. If there's a social networking site out there that's ridiculously close to what I'm describing here, just say so, and I'll leave you alone and I'll go there instead. I'm not going to be like Kimmo and go ahead with an idea when everyone tells me it's lame and refuse to take any advice and call anyone who disagree with me a troll, but if you read this and you feel the same way, if your're like me and feel like there are millions of people out there who feel the same way we do, if your're sick of settling for what's already out there and feel like the internet needs a new niche for everyone who is like us...
JOIN ME
Or don't because I realize that was a little over the top.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #549,502
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #549,503
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Yes.
I think that having to resist the urge to post it every time you made a rude post was slowly killing me.
Yes.
I think that having to resist the urge to post it every time you made a rude post was slowly killing me.
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #549,520
@549,482 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
There's a difference between your opinion and the actual judges ruling you giant faggot
Kill yourself
There's a difference between your opinion and the actual judges ruling you giant faggot
Kill yourself
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #549,645
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
I didn't post my opinion. I posted about the judges ruling. I guess you just didn't fucking read. Faggot.
I didn't post my opinion. I posted about the judges ruling. I guess you just didn't fucking read. Faggot.
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 13 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #549,752
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I guess not, it's because your posts tend to put me to sleep and I've developed the habit of skipping the content in them
I guess not, it's because your posts tend to put me to sleep and I've developed the habit of skipping the content in them
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #549,832
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)Do you realize how dumb you sound? The 6th post in the thread:
> A Google search turned up a lot of articles saying that the children were physically and emotionally abused to coerce them into telling these stories.
And then you ONE WEEK LATER:
> In a shocking development, the kids were full of shit and being forced to lie by their mother and her new boyfriend.
Even if you ignored my posts, it's your own fault for making yourself look stupid by doing so. Just reading the other posts in the thread and ignoring mine should have given you some idea of what was going on, but I guess not. Thanks for the laugh, slowpoke.
The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 15 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #550,112
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> A lot of articles say this
> A judge today turned out a ruling confirming this
dey are duh same ting dur dur hur
also i didn't read most of your post
> A lot of articles say this
> A judge today turned out a ruling confirming this
dey are duh same ting dur dur hur
also i didn't read most of your post
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #550,195
@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
They are the same thing. The articles were saying that because of the court's ruling.
They are the same thing. The articles were saying that because of the court's ruling.