Topic: Female gym member freaks out about transgendered female in ladies locker room and gets banned
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 11 years ago #40,478
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/07/living/feat-planet-fitness-transgender-member/index.htmlI sometimes wonder if trannies are the push back for liberals and feminists. Having some 6 foot perverted man in a dress jumping around the womens changing room with her penis flapping around and 5 O'clock shadow must really push it for those tolerant SJWs who want a female "safe space"
Ofc if you talk to the vocalons of this world they'll tell you "she" is female and life is that simple but you would want your daughter in the same square meter as this thing? squeege please don't respond because we alrealy know your answer will be a "yes"
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later[^] [v] #538,894
Man, in her face. I would have loved to see her face as she got banned. Stupid woman and her penis hatred.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 48 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,896
Hate to say it, but that bitch be ug-a-ly
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 26 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,915
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,917
The twist here is that ShitArse is Carlotta.
Also, I like his Mistress's name. Madame Domino. Does she enjoy a rousing game of dominoes after she whips the guy?
Also, I like his Mistress's name. Madame Domino. Does she enjoy a rousing game of dominoes after she whips the guy?
Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,919
ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,923
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,929
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,930
i don't have a daughter, but i have to agree with you OP. I don't have a problem with transexuals as people, but in general i feel that many of them are... well, like this dude. and no, if i had children i wouldn't want them anywhere near this person any more than i'd want them being near people in Gimp Suits and Bondage gear in a public bathroom, and i may have no basis for saying this, but often i think that transexualism is more of a kink than anything and that quite a lot of folks get their kinks in public. I went with a girlfriend to a hamburger place (and i know this is an anecdote and doesn't mean anything in general but still this experience has flavored my opinion of transexuals) and this really weird dude came in wearing a cheerleader skirt. Everything else he was wearing was mens clothes, like a button up shirt, a fucking tie and like black socks and dress shoes... and this tiny little white cheerleader skirt that didn't really fit him. He pretty much just sat down, ate his food and just pretty much creeped everyone out. We got milkshakes before we left and i overheard the register guy say something about the guy in a skirt, and so i asked about him.
Now the Hamburger place in question is in the "gay-berhood" which is an area of dallas called Oak Lawn. most of the people there, i take it, were gay, and the register guy- him too, but he didn't "dismiss it" or "ignore it", he fucking hated the guy. Called him a pervert who comes in wearing "little girl clothes" every week. Also he said he comes in high as a kite and smelling like booze and cigarettes and sex, which is fucked up because the guy looked like Aids Patient Zero. Anyway, what i took away from that experience is even gay people have a hard time tolerating some transexuals, because for some of them it's not a gender identity crisis, but more of a disgusting sexual deviant crisis.
And for the Transexual in the OP, well, it's more about getting fucked and wearing slut clothes and deviant sex and that master/sub relationship sicko stuff that seems to be the norm for a lot of the "Sissy Transexuals" who declare themselves cum dumpsters and offer to suck every dick on Craigslist.
I mean really, how many actual genetic women call themselves cum dumpsters and wear fishnets to sit on the fucking backyard patio. I'm going to guess "very few" actual genetic women have the same perceptions as a transexual.
imo transexuals call themselves women, but no woman would ever say "oh yeah, i totally act like a mtf transexual."
why? because they act differently! they think differently.
So i don't have a problem with people who are transexual or anything, but certainly i'm not going to be convinced that their behavior, which is obviously not like a females, is female behavior. And sure, there are probably "true transexuals" who transition and then actually act like women, but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play. or something. idk. but this dude in the OP is weird and creepy as fuck.
Now the Hamburger place in question is in the "gay-berhood" which is an area of dallas called Oak Lawn. most of the people there, i take it, were gay, and the register guy- him too, but he didn't "dismiss it" or "ignore it", he fucking hated the guy. Called him a pervert who comes in wearing "little girl clothes" every week. Also he said he comes in high as a kite and smelling like booze and cigarettes and sex, which is fucked up because the guy looked like Aids Patient Zero. Anyway, what i took away from that experience is even gay people have a hard time tolerating some transexuals, because for some of them it's not a gender identity crisis, but more of a disgusting sexual deviant crisis.
And for the Transexual in the OP, well, it's more about getting fucked and wearing slut clothes and deviant sex and that master/sub relationship sicko stuff that seems to be the norm for a lot of the "Sissy Transexuals" who declare themselves cum dumpsters and offer to suck every dick on Craigslist.
I mean really, how many actual genetic women call themselves cum dumpsters and wear fishnets to sit on the fucking backyard patio. I'm going to guess "very few" actual genetic women have the same perceptions as a transexual.
imo transexuals call themselves women, but no woman would ever say "oh yeah, i totally act like a mtf transexual."
why? because they act differently! they think differently.
So i don't have a problem with people who are transexual or anything, but certainly i'm not going to be convinced that their behavior, which is obviously not like a females, is female behavior. And sure, there are probably "true transexuals" who transition and then actually act like women, but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play. or something. idk. but this dude in the OP is weird and creepy as fuck.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,932
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #538,934
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,935
Of course I wouldn't want that person near children. I'll be surprised if females still use the locker rooms after this incident.
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ triple-posted this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,941
Hey Meta, is this a transtrender?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,942
@538,930 (squeegee)
So... You think this is allright if people are "creeped out" by it? That's not really very good logic. The gays were probably thought of similarly some time before. "Oh, they can be gay if they want, but not in public. It's creepy.".
If there's some sort of indication that this person was doing anything other than just using the toilet, something pervy, then I'd see your point. But as is, you seem to be disapproving just because this person is a transexual who has a BDSM kink.
> but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.
That's... No. Just no. Gender dysphoria is a real thing. Do people exist who just dress up as the opposite gender for sexual jollies? Sure. But so do legit transexuals, ones who just want to be the gender that they feel like inside.
Honestly, you're coming across like a some sort of Republican here. "Well seems to me they're all just a pack of deviants really".
So... You think this is allright if people are "creeped out" by it? That's not really very good logic. The gays were probably thought of similarly some time before. "Oh, they can be gay if they want, but not in public. It's creepy.".
If there's some sort of indication that this person was doing anything other than just using the toilet, something pervy, then I'd see your point. But as is, you seem to be disapproving just because this person is a transexual who has a BDSM kink.
> but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.
That's... No. Just no. Gender dysphoria is a real thing. Do people exist who just dress up as the opposite gender for sexual jollies? Sure. But so do legit transexuals, ones who just want to be the gender that they feel like inside.
Honestly, you're coming across like a some sort of Republican here. "Well seems to me they're all just a pack of deviants really".
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,943
I wouldn't want it in the mens changing room though, either.
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,944
This person called himself a male less then a year ago!
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,956
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Many transexuals do "present" their symptom in childhood, it's true. So one could suspect he isn't a "real" transexual. But then, this stuff isn't quite an exact thing. Some could come to the realisation much later in life.
Ugh, actually, I want to roll back a little of what I said. I remember speaking to you about this before, and I basically agreed that it would probably be a good idea to only allow "commited" transexuals to use opposite gender bathrooms, so as to stop any perverts from taking advantage. As for how commitement would be judged, I suppose that some sort of medical assessment would be needed.
Many transexuals do "present" their symptom in childhood, it's true. So one could suspect he isn't a "real" transexual. But then, this stuff isn't quite an exact thing. Some could come to the realisation much later in life.
Ugh, actually, I want to roll back a little of what I said. I remember speaking to you about this before, and I basically agreed that it would probably be a good idea to only allow "commited" transexuals to use opposite gender bathrooms, so as to stop any perverts from taking advantage. As for how commitement would be judged, I suppose that some sort of medical assessment would be needed.
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swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,958
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I dont believe an elderly man who called himself a male less than a year ago, has any idea about what it means to be a woman.
I do agree with the medical assessment thing though.
I dont believe an elderly man who called himself a male less than a year ago, has any idea about what it means to be a woman.
I do agree with the medical assessment thing though.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,959
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Like I said, it's not an exact thing. Maybe he had those urges for years and didn't or couldn't act on them? Maybe he only now understood them? Or maybe it is just because he gets off on it?
Shit, I dunno, I'm not in his head. All I'm saying is that it's possible he actually has GID. But sure, he's not really been "proven" as such yet.
Like I said, it's not an exact thing. Maybe he had those urges for years and didn't or couldn't act on them? Maybe he only now understood them? Or maybe it is just because he gets off on it?
Shit, I dunno, I'm not in his head. All I'm saying is that it's possible he actually has GID. But sure, he's not really been "proven" as such yet.
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,962
@538,942 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> So... You think this is allright if people are "creeped out" by it?
Yes, i don't invalidate people's feelings
> That's not really very good logic. The gays were probably thought of similarly some time before. "Oh, they can be gay if they want, but not in public. It's creepy.".
well, the gays were thought of as being criminals among other things. And i never said transexuals can't be in public, but it's not very fair for you to say that people aren't allowed to feel creeped out. You shouldn't invalidate one persons feeling to validate another person's feelings. That's not fair. feelings are feelings. If men can feel like women, then others can feel creeped out by it. I draw the line at violence, bullying, and violating interstate commerce laws.
> If there's some sort of indication that this person was doing anything other than just using the toilet, something pervy, then I'd see your point. But as is, you seem to be disapproving just because this person is a transexual who has a BDSM kink.
well, it's pretty obvious when a BDSM person is wearing a gimp suit with their boner tied down and wearing a leash. They don't get to say that's their gender identity and have a handy excuse to not be arrested for public indecency. but, anyone who does get off on crossdressing and goes into public to heighten their libido does have that excuse.
but i mean i wouldn't take my kids to a gym if they let the women there all wear fetish halloween clothes either. unfortunately it's not easy to know if a transexual is a genuine "woman transexual" or if they are just pervs standing there edging on their exhibitionist fetish. And like i said, not every transexual is a craigslist cum-slut sexual deviant, but, there DO seem to be an awful lot of those.
> > but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.
> That's... No. Just no. Gender dysphoria is a real thing. Do people exist who just dress up as the opposite gender for sexual jollies? Sure. But so do legit transexuals, ones who just want to be the gender that they feel like inside.
but... that's basically what i said. I said "some are legit, some are just getting their jollies." you say, "Do people exist who just dress up as the opposite gender for sexual jollies? Sure. But so do legit transexuals" which is exactly the same thing. We actually agree, but, maybe we disagree as to the ratios? mind you i never said that there are "more" of either type, and i certainly never claimed all of them are sexual perverts.
> Honestly, you're coming across like a some sort of Republican here. "Well seems to me they're all just a pack of deviants really".
ad hominum
> So... You think this is allright if people are "creeped out" by it?
Yes, i don't invalidate people's feelings
> That's not really very good logic. The gays were probably thought of similarly some time before. "Oh, they can be gay if they want, but not in public. It's creepy.".
well, the gays were thought of as being criminals among other things. And i never said transexuals can't be in public, but it's not very fair for you to say that people aren't allowed to feel creeped out. You shouldn't invalidate one persons feeling to validate another person's feelings. That's not fair. feelings are feelings. If men can feel like women, then others can feel creeped out by it. I draw the line at violence, bullying, and violating interstate commerce laws.
> If there's some sort of indication that this person was doing anything other than just using the toilet, something pervy, then I'd see your point. But as is, you seem to be disapproving just because this person is a transexual who has a BDSM kink.
well, it's pretty obvious when a BDSM person is wearing a gimp suit with their boner tied down and wearing a leash. They don't get to say that's their gender identity and have a handy excuse to not be arrested for public indecency. but, anyone who does get off on crossdressing and goes into public to heighten their libido does have that excuse.
but i mean i wouldn't take my kids to a gym if they let the women there all wear fetish halloween clothes either. unfortunately it's not easy to know if a transexual is a genuine "woman transexual" or if they are just pervs standing there edging on their exhibitionist fetish. And like i said, not every transexual is a craigslist cum-slut sexual deviant, but, there DO seem to be an awful lot of those.
> > but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.
> That's... No. Just no. Gender dysphoria is a real thing. Do people exist who just dress up as the opposite gender for sexual jollies? Sure. But so do legit transexuals, ones who just want to be the gender that they feel like inside.
but... that's basically what i said. I said "some are legit, some are just getting their jollies." you say, "Do people exist who just dress up as the opposite gender for sexual jollies? Sure. But so do legit transexuals" which is exactly the same thing. We actually agree, but, maybe we disagree as to the ratios? mind you i never said that there are "more" of either type, and i certainly never claimed all of them are sexual perverts.
> Honestly, you're coming across like a some sort of Republican here. "Well seems to me they're all just a pack of deviants really".
ad hominum
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,969
@previous (squeegee)
> Yes, i don't invalidate people's feelings
> but it's not very fair for you to say that people aren't allowed to feel creeped out. You shouldn't invalidate one persons feeling to validate another person's feelings.
I would imagine that the racists had strong feelings, along with the homophobes.
Predjudices aren't really feelings worth respecting. By your logic, we should have respected the south's feelings on race and kept segregation going. Lots of whites back then were probably very uneasy around black people. I suppose if they feel uneasy then that's just their reaction, but its not very nice to take that reaction out on the person just for going out in public.
To be clear, I'm just talking about them being in public and such. I address things like bathroom use below.
> unfortunately it's not easy to know if a transexual is a genuine "woman transexual" or if they are just pervs standing there edging on their exhibitionist fetish.
Yeah... Okay, I can agree, this is a specific issue with transexualism. How do you know, exactly? As I said before, the best way I can see is some sort of assesment by a professional before a supposed transexual can use the other bathrooms. That's pretty reasonable, I think.
> but... that's basically what i said.
You seemed to be talking about transexuals in general when you said "but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.".
> Yes, i don't invalidate people's feelings
> but it's not very fair for you to say that people aren't allowed to feel creeped out. You shouldn't invalidate one persons feeling to validate another person's feelings.
I would imagine that the racists had strong feelings, along with the homophobes.
Predjudices aren't really feelings worth respecting. By your logic, we should have respected the south's feelings on race and kept segregation going. Lots of whites back then were probably very uneasy around black people. I suppose if they feel uneasy then that's just their reaction, but its not very nice to take that reaction out on the person just for going out in public.
To be clear, I'm just talking about them being in public and such. I address things like bathroom use below.
> unfortunately it's not easy to know if a transexual is a genuine "woman transexual" or if they are just pervs standing there edging on their exhibitionist fetish.
Yeah... Okay, I can agree, this is a specific issue with transexualism. How do you know, exactly? As I said before, the best way I can see is some sort of assesment by a professional before a supposed transexual can use the other bathrooms. That's pretty reasonable, I think.
> but... that's basically what i said.
You seemed to be talking about transexuals in general when you said "but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.".
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,970
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
If this person scares women, is it because of transphobia, or the fact that they can tell that he's a male?
If this person scares women, is it because of transphobia, or the fact that they can tell that he's a male?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,973
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
I don't understand the question. Aren't those the same thing? Because just being able to tell that they were male and being irrationally frightened by that alone is still transphobia.
I don't understand the question. Aren't those the same thing? Because just being able to tell that they were male and being irrationally frightened by that alone is still transphobia.
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #538,975
@538,969 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> I would imagine that the racists had strong feelings, along with the homophobes.
>
> Predjudices aren't really feelings worth respecting. By your logic, we should have respected the south's feelings on race and kept segregation going. Lots of whites back then were probably very uneasy around black people. I suppose if they feel uneasy then that's just their reaction, but its not very nice to take that reaction out on the person just for going out in public.
>
> To be clear, I'm just talking about them being in public and such. I address things like bathroom use below.
i never suggested anyone "take their reactions out" on anyone, i said that people are entitled to their own feelings, and yes, that includes being creeped out and even being racist or prejudiced. people can feel however they feel, and i never suggested anyone act on their prejudices or feelings of being creeped on by doing anything more than avoiding the situation or people that elicit those feelings. i'm not suggesting anything be done "to" anyone, but i am suggesting that it's okay for people to feel their own emotions.
> Yeah... Okay, I can agree, this is a specific issue with transexualism. How do you know, exactly? As I said before, the best way I can see is some sort of assesment by a professional before a supposed transexual can use the other bathrooms. That's pretty reasonable, I think.
i don't disagree
> You seemed to be talking about transexuals in general when you said "but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.".
oh, i mean in instances like the dude in the OP. Late life transitioner, never previously acted on GID, but, does have a penchant for debasement sex play and wears provocative age inappropriate clothing. this, to me, sounds like someone who was very likely closeted their whole lives and engaged in the "underground scene" (i just don't think someone will suddenly decide to, at his age, go full pervert, it's more like a slow progression to full fledged sicko) and now in his twilight years he's going to "come out" and enjoy all the stuff he'd ever dreamed of, like serving a mistress and drinking piss and having his crotch kicked and just generally... well, debased.
i mean just go to Craiglist and search t4m (i.e. transexuals looking for men) and you'll see cumdumpster in about every other title. and it just seems weird to me that in the WfM section it's all women looking for relationships and (well, mostly bots) you certainly never see girls looking to "just suck some cock" or have some stranger "spunk on their asshole."
disclaimer: i know not all transexuals are doing it for the fetishism, but the ones that DO are vocal, visible, and mentally, uh, like they have mental problems... NOT ALL OF THEM DO, but the ones that do really engender the ones that don't with an awfully bad reputation.
> I would imagine that the racists had strong feelings, along with the homophobes.
>
> Predjudices aren't really feelings worth respecting. By your logic, we should have respected the south's feelings on race and kept segregation going. Lots of whites back then were probably very uneasy around black people. I suppose if they feel uneasy then that's just their reaction, but its not very nice to take that reaction out on the person just for going out in public.
>
> To be clear, I'm just talking about them being in public and such. I address things like bathroom use below.
i never suggested anyone "take their reactions out" on anyone, i said that people are entitled to their own feelings, and yes, that includes being creeped out and even being racist or prejudiced. people can feel however they feel, and i never suggested anyone act on their prejudices or feelings of being creeped on by doing anything more than avoiding the situation or people that elicit those feelings. i'm not suggesting anything be done "to" anyone, but i am suggesting that it's okay for people to feel their own emotions.
> Yeah... Okay, I can agree, this is a specific issue with transexualism. How do you know, exactly? As I said before, the best way I can see is some sort of assesment by a professional before a supposed transexual can use the other bathrooms. That's pretty reasonable, I think.
i don't disagree
> You seemed to be talking about transexuals in general when you said "but it really seems like it's lees about being a woman and more about getting fucked "like one" as some kind of debasement sex play.".
oh, i mean in instances like the dude in the OP. Late life transitioner, never previously acted on GID, but, does have a penchant for debasement sex play and wears provocative age inappropriate clothing. this, to me, sounds like someone who was very likely closeted their whole lives and engaged in the "underground scene" (i just don't think someone will suddenly decide to, at his age, go full pervert, it's more like a slow progression to full fledged sicko) and now in his twilight years he's going to "come out" and enjoy all the stuff he'd ever dreamed of, like serving a mistress and drinking piss and having his crotch kicked and just generally... well, debased.
i mean just go to Craiglist and search t4m (i.e. transexuals looking for men) and you'll see cumdumpster in about every other title. and it just seems weird to me that in the WfM section it's all women looking for relationships and (well, mostly bots) you certainly never see girls looking to "just suck some cock" or have some stranger "spunk on their asshole."
disclaimer: i know not all transexuals are doing it for the fetishism, but the ones that DO are vocal, visible, and mentally, uh, like they have mental problems... NOT ALL OF THEM DO, but the ones that do really engender the ones that don't with an awfully bad reputation.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,976
@previous (squeegee)
Allright, Squeegee, we have reached a consensus. I am also sorry that I called you a Republican.
Ha- you see that, ShitArse? Your Zionist scheme to tear us apart has failed!
Allright, Squeegee, we have reached a consensus. I am also sorry that I called you a Republican.
Ha- you see that, ShitArse? Your Zionist scheme to tear us apart has failed!
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swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 54 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,977
@538,973 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
How is that transphobia? They arent scared of him because he's trans.
How is that transphobia? They arent scared of him because he's trans.
squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,978
@538,973 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
being frightened of a male isn't transphobia. that's a woman in a private naked place being scared by a man.
and he actually is a man and not just an ugly woman. and it's okay for women to be frightened of men, they should be, men are the ones who do the most perverted and sick shit imaginable.
Worst thing in the world happens: i bet a man was behind it. just saying, men don't really have... the nicest, most bestest reputation as far as women are concerned. really women tend to pick a few men in their lives and trust them implicitly (father, husbands, etc) and aren't all that trusting of the other 3 billion of us. and i can't blame them. they shouldn't be.
being frightened of a male isn't transphobia. that's a woman in a private naked place being scared by a man.
and he actually is a man and not just an ugly woman. and it's okay for women to be frightened of men, they should be, men are the ones who do the most perverted and sick shit imaginable.
Worst thing in the world happens: i bet a man was behind it. just saying, men don't really have... the nicest, most bestest reputation as far as women are concerned. really women tend to pick a few men in their lives and trust them implicitly (father, husbands, etc) and aren't all that trusting of the other 3 billion of us. and i can't blame them. they shouldn't be.
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,979
@previous (squeegee)
They are a lot of males who take that fear very personally, and think that if they wouldn't be afraid of a trans man in the bathroom, why should females be afraid of trans women?
They are a lot of males who take that fear very personally, and think that if they wouldn't be afraid of a trans man in the bathroom, why should females be afraid of trans women?
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,980
@538,977 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
You weren't talking generally? I thought you meant generally.
If it's soomewhere like a bathroom then it's different, sure.
You weren't talking generally? I thought you meant generally.
If it's soomewhere like a bathroom then it's different, sure.
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,982
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Bathroom or anywhere that a female would be afraid to see a male.
Bathroom or anywhere that a female would be afraid to see a male.
Meta joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,987
@538,941 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
The "male slut in training" bit indicates there's not much dysphoria about being male for this person. I can't picture a transwoman describing themselves as male.
I think the article is clickbait to encourage "political correctness gone mad!" outrage. It's too vague on many points (like, what did the woman who complained do to spread the word for four days before her membership was cancelled?). I feel sorry for the gym management, honestly. If they enforce XX/XY segregation, they'll be torn apart by the LGBT supporters and progressives. If they allow transwomen in the ladies room, they'll be savaged by the conservatives and religious right.
The "male slut in training" bit indicates there's not much dysphoria about being male for this person. I can't picture a transwoman describing themselves as male.
I think the article is clickbait to encourage "political correctness gone mad!" outrage. It's too vague on many points (like, what did the woman who complained do to spread the word for four days before her membership was cancelled?). I feel sorry for the gym management, honestly. If they enforce XX/XY segregation, they'll be torn apart by the LGBT supporters and progressives. If they allow transwomen in the ladies room, they'll be savaged by the conservatives and religious right.
Meta double-posted this 11 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,988
@538,979 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
It's something foreign to me. Because you're right, if I was changing in a locker room at the gym and saw a transman changing I'd think "huh, that's weird" and maybe later say to my friends "hey dude you won't believe what I saw today" but it wouldn't ruin my day or cause a panic attack or anything. But if women are scared, what measures do they take to protect themselves? Mace? A knife? Concealed handgun? Do women ever think like "if some guy tries to rape me, I'll cut his nuts off and put a .380 in his head"?
It's something foreign to me. Because you're right, if I was changing in a locker room at the gym and saw a transman changing I'd think "huh, that's weird" and maybe later say to my friends "hey dude you won't believe what I saw today" but it wouldn't ruin my day or cause a panic attack or anything. But if women are scared, what measures do they take to protect themselves? Mace? A knife? Concealed handgun? Do women ever think like "if some guy tries to rape me, I'll cut his nuts off and put a .380 in his head"?
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,990
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,991
@538,987 (Meta)
You know that most females wouldn't be comfortable with that male in the locker rooms, and they aren't conservative for feeling that way.
You know that most females wouldn't be comfortable with that male in the locker rooms, and they aren't conservative for feeling that way.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #539,011
Oh my God this thread
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #539,015
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Meta replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #539,040
@538,991 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
In the sense of wanting to preserve a traditional social norm it is, by definition, conservative.
@538,990 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Imagine this scenario.
> tranny goes in the locker room
> starts changing
> knives and mace start appearing as all the women glare at him and encircle him
I guarantee that will get him out faster than a CNN article.
In the sense of wanting to preserve a traditional social norm it is, by definition, conservative.
@538,990 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Imagine this scenario.
> tranny goes in the locker room
> starts changing
> knives and mace start appearing as all the women glare at him and encircle him
I guarantee that will get him out faster than a CNN article.
Meta double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #539,044
I should clarify that I don't mean "conservative" in a negative sense, but just objectively.
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #539,062
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 35 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #539,063
"oh fucking christ" is the only logical response to seeing that
kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #539,066
dw joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 days later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,425
This wasn't a shared locker room, they were those seperated private room things so I don't see the problem
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 53 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,430
@previous (dw)
In the interview, the woman said that the trans person walked into the locker room while she was getting dressed.
Where did you see that it was separate rooms?
In the interview, the woman said that the trans person walked into the locker room while she was getting dressed.
Where did you see that it was separate rooms?
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 33 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,439
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,441
@previous (dw)
Post a link please. I pulled up planet fitness locker room in google images and they look like normal, shared rooms.
Post a link please. I pulled up planet fitness locker room in google images and they look like normal, shared rooms.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,442
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
It was on the frontpage like a week ago if you are interested in finding ir
It was on the frontpage like a week ago if you are interested in finding ir
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 58 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,444
dw replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,450
@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
i will check my archive of factoids for internet debates tomorrow
i will check my archive of factoids for internet debates tomorrow
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 13 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,497
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,512
@539,441 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
@539,442 (dw)
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
google motherfucker https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/2y8jyo/planet_fitness_cancels_womans_membership_after/
Also the article states
> The women's locker room offers private changing stalls and includes bathroom stalls with doors.
@539,442 (dw)
@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
google motherfucker https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/2y8jyo/planet_fitness_cancels_womans_membership_after/
Also the article states
> The women's locker room offers private changing stalls and includes bathroom stalls with doors.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)