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Topic: Virginia's forced sterilization victims get compensation

ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 11 years ago #40,411

I bet Kook is furious.

http://rt.com/usa/238201-virginia-eugenics-victims-compensation/

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #537,970

Are you slowly morphing into being a leftie, now?

There is no way that the old ShitArse would've been happy about this news. Forced sterilisation is a classic favourite of the extreme right.

ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 17 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,152

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I wish you were forcefully sterilized.

WSD !VBNtXmsnv. joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 22 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,153

@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
Tsundere

kook !!mCVqftDha joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,155

Of course this doesnt make me angry.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,189

@538,152 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
That's our ShitArse!
(Audience laughter)
(Cast jumps into air and freeze-frames)
(Fade to black)

ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 25 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,192

@538,155 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
So not only did you just prove you're a liar, but also a hypocrite?
You said you believed in sterilization and now something like this doesn't make you furious.
You will hang on the day of the rope.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,202

@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)


I believe in making new laws to prevent abusers and genetic defects from breeding. Not neutering lttle boys who are not defective. In fact, preventing healthy individuals from breeding should be illegal.

(Edited 3 minutes later.)

kook !!mCVqftDha double-posted this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,204

Oh and I believe that the purposeful disfigurement of another persons face, eyes, hands feet, or genitals should warrent the death penalty.

ShitArse !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 7 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #538,208

@538,202 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)

And they call me Hitler.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 59 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #538,221

@previous (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
No one calls you hitler though.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #538,224

@538,208 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
You may be flattering yourself a little there by comparing yourself to Hitler. Your not that good at being racist, buddy.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx double-posted this 11 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #538,225

@538,221 (E)
They do in his dreams...

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #538,323

@538,208 (ShitArse !saAqdaazn2)
You're nothing like him. Hitler was charismatic.

WSDphone !dBGi/iH4eY joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,575

Sterilization is a good thing.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 1 day later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,884

@538,204 (kook !!mCVqftDha)
I agree with Kook on this one.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 53 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,893

Sterilization is okay, euthanasia is better.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,949

@538,884 (H)
Seriously! Spurned lover throws acid on a young womans face? Death penalty! Woman cuts off penis of abusive husband? Death penalty!

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 18 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,965

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
mark wahlberg would be dead. he blinded an asian fellow with a brick

(Edited 27 seconds later.)

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,967

@previous (squeegee)
He should be dead. He's a fucking scumbag.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,968

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
no, he's repaid his debt to society and made amends! he should have his record expunged.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,972

@previous (squeegee)
Lol When I heard that shit, I wanted to murder him.

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,981

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
"here lies Mark Wahlberg, who blinded a poor asian fellow with a brick simply because he was there"
should be carved on his tombstone.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,983

@previous (squeegee)
Remember that interview a few years back where he said thathe would have prevented 9/11 if he had been on the plane?

squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,986

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
lol, no, but that's hilarious

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 33 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #538,989

@previous (squeegee)
It's enraging.

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 9 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,036

@538,202 (kook !!mCVqftDha)

What is a genetic defect

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 4 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,055

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
The Tea Party.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 44 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,061

@539,036 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
google that shit

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 39 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,064

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)

I am asking what a genetic defect is in your own opinion.

kook !!mCVqftDha replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,067

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
multiple sclerosis, Huntingtons, downs, muscular dystrophy

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,099

@previous (kook !!mCVqftDha)

what is it about people with multiple sclerosis that you feel they shouldn't be afforded the basic dignities afforded to all humans

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,102

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
People with severe disabilities shouldnt breed.
I dont even think that gay people should breed. I also dont agree with most fertility treatments.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,108

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Generally, gay people don't breed.

We would eliminate it altogether if some of them didn't feel obligated to pretend to be straight in front of their bible-thumpin' family.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,114

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Very true.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,116

Owl, because of my own genetic defects, I will never breed. Because that wouldnt be fair to the person that I might produce. And I dont consider myself to be a lesser person.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,117

@539,102 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
I think that should be up to them, really. The state shouldn't get to decide who gets to breed based on arbitrary criteria, that sets a very dangerous precedent. People could end up wrongfully sterilised.

And, gays...? Why the fuck not? They can have surrogates if they want and just raise the child together. I even read in the paper today about a recent study that found that same-sex parents were no worse than opppsite sex ones.

@539,108 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
That is not how homosexuality works. A gay child can come from two straight parents.

(Edited 32 seconds later.)

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,119

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I didnt say that they shouldn't be parents. I said that they shouldn't breed. I believe that being gay or trans, or having fertility issues means that you shoulsnt breed. And yes, I know that you disagree.

FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,120

@539,117 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> can come from
I'd venture to say most of them do.

And my point was that it's unfair to the spouse and children when a gay person pretends to be straight because they couldn't bear to come out to their parents until they've already started a life with someone. For that matter, it's unfair to the gay person that their parents make them feel like they need to hide or try to be something they aren't.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,122

@539,119 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Why shouldn't gays or transexuals breed? Are you saying you want to attempt to curb those things through forced intervention on what people do with their reproductive organs?

@previous (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
Hmm. Well then, of course.

It would also be unfair for the gay person, feeling they have to keep up that lie.

(Edited 13 seconds later.)

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,125

@539,120 (FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI)
I have no respect for people who come out to their kids and spouses after years of marriage.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,126

@539,122 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
No im saying that they're gay
because they shouldnt breed. I dont care who people want to fuck.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,128

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
They don't even need to fuck in order to breed. That stuff can all be done artificially these days.

@539,125 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
In fairness, they might have felt forced into it. Like they had to be straight or face alienation and hate.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 30 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,129

Pedophiles as well.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,135

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
That one is kinda redundant. If they're fully pedo, it is essentially already illegal for them to breed normally. Since it's illegal for them to fuck what tuey're atttacted to.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,139

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
It isnt illegal for them to breed. Its illegal for them to fuck children.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ double-posted this 11 years ago, 31 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,140

@539,128 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
No one forced them to reproduce.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,147

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Their spouse or family might've had expectations of them. Or just society in general.

I agree it's a shitty situation for the family, but the gay person can be a victim too. Social conformity is a powerful thing, and many parts of the world are still very conservative and controlling about these things.

@539,139 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
That's what I'm saying, so if they're exclusively pedo, as in woulfnt fuck a woman, they'd effectively be unable to reproduce.

Though I suppose they could get a surrogate. If they kept their preferences a secret.

(Edited 37 seconds later.)

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,148

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Most pedos can usually still get hard for adults. Most are married.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,149

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
A scary situation, surely.

Hey, did you ever hear of Jump again? Last I heard he was going on the run, implicitly because the U.S. government busted some CP people on Tor. It was something like that anyway.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,153

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
I haven't heard from him in a very long time. I don't know if that rumour is true.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,156

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Here's the thread. As far as I know, this is the last the BBS scene heard from him.

https://minichan.org/topic/30010

In hindsight I dunno if he was serious. But he did vanish, seemingly.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,157

@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
oh, he's in jail. i used to have his mugshots and a screenie of the police blotter mentioning it. not for cp though, it was for drug dustribution.

i'll find it, brb

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,158

@539,156 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Thats unfortunate.

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 20 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,259

@539,102 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)

Your use of the term "breed" dehumanises these people. I think it's quite awful that you propose certain humans shouldn't be free and enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,261

@previous (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
I use the term breed or reproduce to refer to myself and everyone else. I wont change that just because it makes people uncomfortable, and reminds them that humans are animals.
Someone's right to happiness stops when other people have to finance it. You've given no counter arguments to this, just an appeal to emotion.

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,262

@539,259 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
It's also quite sickening that the best they could offer was $25,000. "We took away a significant part of your life without your consent, but here's $25,000 for preventing you from having a family." And I agree that the term "breed" does dehumanize people.

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,264

@539,157 (squeegee)
Did you ever find it?

Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,266

@539,261 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
Then don't finance it. Subsidize voluntary sterilization for people who don't want kids if you believe in eugenics, and make it financially difficult for those who can't afford kids from having kids, but you shouldn't force people to be sterilized.

Also, if people don't like being called breeders you shouldn't call them breeders. What you just said would be like me saying "I refer to myself and anyone born male as male, and I won't change that even if it makes them uncomfortable and reminds them that they were born male."

swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ replied with this 11 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,284

@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
I call everyone who was born as a male, as a male. It's not my job to use flowery language to protect someone's feelings.
I do believe that paying people to not breed is a good idea.

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,296

@previous (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)
i disagree

The Owl !KThEOwLwbU replied with this 11 years ago, 2 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,321

@539,261 (swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/)

Fine. My argument against your idea for the forced sterilization of so-called "genetic defects" is that:

1) Your criteria for who counts as a "defect" and who doesn't is vague, arbitrary and open to abuse.
2) The Universal Charter of Human Rights is a good thing which should be upheld, and your idea violates that.
3) The assertion is made that if these people have families, somebody else will have to finance said family, which is a false premise.
4) Your idea makes an assumption that such "defects" are non-contributing members of society, which is untrue.
5) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within a population group falls under the current definition of a genocide. Genocide causes suffering, and is therefore unethical.
6) Applications of eugenics are discriminatory. Discrimination causes suffering, and is therefore unethical.

Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,356

why do you continue to make threads you gigantic fucking baby?

Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #539,370

@539,321 (The Owl !KThEOwLwbU)
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