Topic: Why haven't we created water yet?
Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #39,998
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Because the bottled water companies want your money. | - | 0% | |
| Because poor people are profitable for governments and the wealthy. | - | 0% | |
| Because California is not independent from the United States and have to abide by federal laws. | - | 0% | |
| Because this is some conspiracy to euthanize the country/planet | - | 0% | |
| Other exaggerated reason that may or may not be thought up by Alex Jones and the GCN Radio Network. | - | 0% | |
| Because boners. | 1 | 100% | |
| Because Sprite, lemon-lime soda pop. | - | 0% |
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 20 minutes later[^] [v] #532,568
Syntax already invented water, and he did it 15 minutes from his apartment
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 16 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #532,570
Syntax joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #532,571
Ocean is full of water. New plant about 20 minutes north of me is simply taking the salt out of the water. None will come my way except some will come to places I bought and lease out so its a good deal.
Also one can take Hydrogen out of petroleum and combine with oxygen in air and make water.
Also one can take Hydrogen out of petroleum and combine with oxygen in air and make water.
squeegee joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 8 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #532,572
uh... because it's not a safe process and there's still plenty of water to be had without the need to violently explode mixtures of oxygen and hydrogen... also you'd need large sources of oxygen and hydrogen and the cost alone would be more than just filtering water through charcoal or even desalinating it.
the problem of course with this kind of thing is energy expenditure vs. material gains. it is still just cheaper to do it the old fashioned way and dig more wells and catch more rain. unless there was a huge enough pressure on us to actually make water we won't be doing anything but harvesting it.
and to reiterate, creating water has already been done, it's just a byproduct of a chemical reaction. hydrogen + oxygen + spark = water
the problem of course with this kind of thing is energy expenditure vs. material gains. it is still just cheaper to do it the old fashioned way and dig more wells and catch more rain. unless there was a huge enough pressure on us to actually make water we won't be doing anything but harvesting it.
and to reiterate, creating water has already been done, it's just a byproduct of a chemical reaction. hydrogen + oxygen + spark = water
Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #532,574
@previous (squeegee)> it is still just cheaper to do it the old fashioned way and dig more wells and catch more rain.
Rain? On rare occasions we get a few drops here. Once a decade a lot of drops
Wells ran dry loooong ago.
So actually this place not yet finished is 10 miles North of me
http://poseidonwater.com/our_projects/all_projects/carlsbad_project
will provide 50 million gallons of desalinated seawater per day.
It is costly
> energy expenditure vs. material gains
Bet a lot more of this will take place as Planet Earth warms up
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #532,575
@532,572 (squeegee)
This got me thinking... Were you a paranoid nutter who was paranoid of all tap water and bottled water, and assuming that rain or ocean water weren't regularly avaliable, how easy would it be to create a regular, healthy supply of drinking water?
I guess some sort of condensation would be the answer, but I'm not sure how practical or easy it would be to make it so that it provides enough drinking water for a person every day.
This got me thinking... Were you a paranoid nutter who was paranoid of all tap water and bottled water, and assuming that rain or ocean water weren't regularly avaliable, how easy would it be to create a regular, healthy supply of drinking water?
I guess some sort of condensation would be the answer, but I'm not sure how practical or easy it would be to make it so that it provides enough drinking water for a person every day.
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squeegee replied with this 11 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #532,576
@532,574 (Syntax)
right, but historically california's water comes from runoff after snowfall in the winter in all those mountains just east and north of you. But, you're right, with warming has come drought and that snowfall is tapering off. I expect eventually high rainfall areas will harvest water and ship it around in pipelines like they do oil unless desalination ends up just being cheaper.
right, but historically california's water comes from runoff after snowfall in the winter in all those mountains just east and north of you. But, you're right, with warming has come drought and that snowfall is tapering off. I expect eventually high rainfall areas will harvest water and ship it around in pipelines like they do oil unless desalination ends up just being cheaper.
squeegee double-posted this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #532,577
@532,575 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
oh, no, not a nutter. i've spent zero time thinking about apocalyptic water gathering procedures.
i will say that the hunter gatherers were pretty good at knowing how to do things like carry water, store water, and not spend inordinate amounts of time in places without water. If you were to find yourself in a situation where you don't have regular access to clean drinkable water you need to just move.
oh, no, not a nutter. i've spent zero time thinking about apocalyptic water gathering procedures.
i will say that the hunter gatherers were pretty good at knowing how to do things like carry water, store water, and not spend inordinate amounts of time in places without water. If you were to find yourself in a situation where you don't have regular access to clean drinkable water you need to just move.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #532,578
@previous (squeegee)
No, no, I wasn't calling you a nutter. It was just a hypothetical. I found it to be an interesting problem, if and how a person who was paranoid about water might be able to conceivabley survive without using any tap water or bottled water.
But yeah, the simplest solution would probably be to move to somewhere where natural water is more readily avaliable. But if they couldn't/wouldn't do that, then they'd have to get creative.
No, no, I wasn't calling you a nutter. It was just a hypothetical. I found it to be an interesting problem, if and how a person who was paranoid about water might be able to conceivabley survive without using any tap water or bottled water.
But yeah, the simplest solution would probably be to move to somewhere where natural water is more readily avaliable. But if they couldn't/wouldn't do that, then they'd have to get creative.
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Syntax replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #532,579
@532,576 (squeegee)> I expect eventually high rainfall areas will harvest water and ship it around in pipelines like they do oil
I and anyone driving on that LA Freeway sees this water way and pipeline which brings a water a combo of Central California water a mix of Mountain water and underground sources. I have not looked to see why there is a pipe like parallel to the open water way.
Its just one of several ways LA gets its water and my area gets to tap into it to supplement wot we get from Arizona
LA wood be a total desert without stealing other peoples water
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