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Topic: Did Adam and Eve go to Heaven or Hell?

Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #399

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Poll option Votes Percentage Graph
Heaven 6 43%
Hell 8 57%

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #7,622

Eve went to hell. Adam went to heaven.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 48 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,625

They both went off to see the wonderful Wizard of Oz.

brie !OudrPWaUDQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,626

Yes.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,628

To generalize a bit on what I said earlier in this thread, all males go to heaven and all females go to hell.

Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,630

@7,626 (brie !OudrPWaUDQ)
No?

brie !OudrPWaUDQ replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,632

@previous (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
I change my answer to no.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,633

@previous (brie !OudrPWaUDQ)
Yes?

Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,634

@7,632 (brie !OudrPWaUDQ)
I support and endorse this message.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #7,637

@OP
Fictional people and places are not toys bud, grow up and leave.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #7,753

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Nope. FSM created the world 11 seconds ago and made everything have the appearance of age. Cuz that's just how he rolls, and it has never been disproven.

 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #7,764

@7,628 (B)
You are probably thinking of the animated film All Dogs Go to Heaven released by MGM in late 1989. It is a good movie, but it is was not intended as serious theological commentary.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #7,772

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
3/10

You need to make yourself look like less of an idiot in order to do this successfully.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,252

It depends on whom you talk to. The general Christian consensus is that Christ "preached to the dead" following his crucifixion, allowing the deceased to receive salvation. All of the Patriarchs (and their women) are believed to have joined Christ when he ascended to Heaven.

The ancient Jewish perspective is a little hazy on the subject, as the Torah has no clearly defined afterlife. Only a very few people were explicitly described as being taken to heaven (Enoch and Elijah for example). Traditionally speaking, everybody else seems to have been "gathered unto their ancestors" in Sheol ("a place of darkness to which all dead go"). Later traditions mention the virtuous dead joining Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in a "place of comfort", although neither Adam nor Eve are mentioned in this context.

Any Jewish users care to explain the modern Rabbinical take on the afterlife? I for one would be interested in hearing more.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Bobby2Sox !dinhUJfbqA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,287

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,322

@8,252 (J)
I too am interested in the Jewish view. I am attempting to study The Bible without the Protestant bias I was raised with.

!OPhereejJA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,476

@7,622 (B)
you clearly have no theological training. Adam went to hell, Eve went to heaven.

Johnny4shoes !ZQALZnFSWU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,478

@previous (!OPhereejJA)
I need proof.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,480

@8,476 (!OPhereejJA)
It was a joke, and no I don't.

> Adam went to hell, Eve went to heaven.
Seriously? Not that it matters, but out of curiosity.

!OPhereejJA replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,498

@8,478 (Johnny4shoes !ZQALZnFSWU)
@previous (B)
Paul is very clear that it was Adam who introduced Sin into the world, Jesus being the counterpart that brought sin OUT of the world. This obviously means that Eve was innocent of wrongdoing, and in the prophesy right afterwards, hers ends on a much more positive note's than Adam's.

Johnny4shoes !ZQALZnFSWU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,501

@previous (!OPhereejJA)
Paul is not divine there was no way he would know where either went to after death.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,513

@8,498 (!OPhereejJA)
Isn't that a direct contradiction of Genesis?

Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,587

@previous (B)
no...

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,627

@previous (L)
> And the Lord cast Eve down into the fires of Hell. Bible, Genesis iii. 19

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,630

@previous (B)
Fuck you. Genesis 3:19 is my favorite phrase from the whole book. It doesn't say that.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,641

@8,627 (B)
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)

> Genesis iii. 19

lol I've never seen a scripture cited like that...

The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,646

2 Chronicles 8:27: "And behold, the LORD God, the Lord Himself, cast Eve into the flaming pit of hellfire, for lo, she was a sinneress."

The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih double-posted this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,648

@8,641 (L)
That is actually the scholarly way.

Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,651

@8,646 (The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih)
Song Of Songs 7:7-8

7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit.
8 I said, “I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit.”

Anonymous L double-posted this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,656

@8,648 (The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih)
Yes I realize that but I have never seen this convention used with scriptures

The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,784

@previous (L)
Ah, okay sorry then. Yes, it is used for most scholarly biblical resources.

Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,814

@previous (The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih)
i guess I'll be seeing more of it then when I start my bachelor of ministry

The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,817

@previous (L)
You are really? Good luck my friend.

Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,828

@previous (The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih)
yes! later this month

The Magogo„¢ !!F0+vKzoih replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,900

@previous (L)
Best of luck.

Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,903

@8,828 (L)
Mountii?

Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #8,905

@previous (B)
I neither confirm nor deny.

jump !VIfloDyEYo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #9,032

@8,828 (L)
I hope not in a seminary.

Cause you gonna get raped.
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