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Topic: Its not a question of stopping pollution to save our planet, but to give us more time for it?

Anonymous A started this discussion 11 years ago #39,722

Agree or not?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #528,825

The planet is fine. Humans will suffer.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,826

@previous (B)

That is like saying the serial killer is fine, the victims are dead.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 21 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,827

Duh? We only care about this planet because it houses us. Even if we fuck it up to the point where it can no longer house us, the planet will be fine long-term.

Anonymous C double-posted this 11 years ago, 34 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,828

@528,826 (A)
that makes absolutely no sense at all. Do the victims require a serial killer to survive?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 50 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,829

@528,827 (C)

But can that planet sustain life in the future?

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 44 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,830

@528,828 (C)

they require his mercy if they can´t escape.

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 9 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,831

@528,829 (A)
Sure. Maybe not human life, but life, uh, finds a way. There'll always be tardigrades.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,832

@previous (C)

I have actually heard that it doesn't take much, uh, of accidents to happen so that the temperature and climate to change to make it unable to sustain any kind of life.

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,833

@previous (A)
Good luck with that. Tardigrades survive in space and in the deep of the ocean, and they have been here since the dawn of time, having survived all the extinction events that caused nearly all other spies to change and adapt, but not the tardigrades. They are still there, floating around just as they did in good old days, not giving a fuck.

Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,834

@528,832 (A)
Living creatures that will survive almost anything:
Crocodiles and alligators
Vultures
Cockroaches
Jellyfish
Sea snails
Squid
Mosquitoes

Anonymous B double-posted this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,835

@528,832 (A)
You sound like a person that claims to be an expert on many things but can never accept being wrong.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 35 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,836

@528,833 (C)

Aren't you overvaluing those Tardigrade too much? Reading it all on wikipedia, it doesn't seem like they can survive the worst case scenarios

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,837

@528,834 (B)

There have been many disasters (so i am told) that have almost fully destroyed all life on earth. So its like a russian roulette, life on earth has just been lucky for a couple of times.

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,838

@528,834 (B)
I think you should add tardigrades to that list.

@528,836 (A)
No, tardigrade is life tardigrade is love. Seriously though, the most likely extinction events are overheating or underheating of the planet, with which tardigrades will have no issues.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 13 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,839

@528,835 (B)

Not an expert. Don't know how i made myself sound like that. Its just that i once heard that given enough time, the survival rate of anything drops to 0%

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 54 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,840

@528,837 (A)
Yes, extinction events. Tardigrades survived all of those with no adaptations.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 9 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,841

@528,838 (C)

but the wikipedia page makes it sound like it can only to that in couple of minutes

tardigrades can survive being heated for a few minutes to 151 °C (304 °F),[26] or being chilled for days at −200 °C (-328 °F).[26] Some can even survive cooling to −272 °C (~1 degree above absolute zero or -458 °F)[27] for a few minutes.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 11 years ago, 52 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,842

@528,840 (C)

But that isn't any guarantee of survival in the future.

Meta joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,843

Life was there before and it will be there after we're gone.Species will come and go, climates will change, continents will drift and eventually the sun will become a red giant and vaporize it all.

Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,845

@528,838 (C)
Agreed! I was letting you run with the tardigrade facts :)

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,846

@528,841 (A)
You realize that those temperatures are utter extremes? In space it's 2.7 degrees above absolute zero (keep in mind absolute zero is the absolute minimum temperature, it is not possible to go colder in conventional settings), so the part you cited is for temperatures *colder than space*. That's not going to happen on our planet. We have an atmosphere which keeps things nice and warm.

To be honest the only way I see for ALL life to die on this planet is for our sun to stop working.

Anonymous C double-posted this 11 years ago, 27 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,847

@528,845 (B)
Press 1 to subscribe for more tardigrade facts.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 3 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,848

@528,846 (C)

> We have an atmosphere which keeps things nice and warm.

yeah which brings me to the point that, i heard it doesn't take much to fuck the climate so badly up. So badly that it could in fact make things unnaturally cold or unnaturally hot. Unnaturally as in incapable of sustaining any kind of life.

Anonymous B replied with this 11 years ago, 5 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,850

@528,847 (C)
h

Anonymous B double-posted this 11 years ago, 28 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #528,852

@528,848 (A)
You heard wrong.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 11 years ago, 5 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #528,945

@528,839 (A)
@528,848 (A)
You seem to believe everything you heard in a movie once.

By the way, not everything they say in Fight CLub is true,

Anonymous E double-posted this 11 years ago, 57 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #528,947

@528,848 (A)
"it doesn't take much"

That doesn't really mean anything. Thanks.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #528,948

@528,945 (E)
@previous (E)

hey, i hope i am wrong, really.

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #528,949

@previous (A)
why does it even matter to you? None of this will be relevant within your lifetime, or that of your children or your children's children (I could go on).

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 11 years ago, 19 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #528,960

@previous (C)

Please go on. No really the thought of it is just repulsive to me. Like all this life with such a long history just suddenly coming to a end.

Anonymous E replied with this 11 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #528,962

@previous (A)
Don't think about it then...

You aren't thinking about the hundreds of billions of other planets where life died out, why is earth so special to you??? You must reeeeallly loooove humanss if you have such an earthboner, duude.

Anonymous C replied with this 11 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #528,964

@528,960 (A)
Yeah, and we're part of all that life. We only showed up years after all the interesting stuff happened, and we'll likely die out before a whole lot more interesting stuff happens. You're going to die much, much sooner than that so it's not like you'll ever know the conclusion. No point worrying about it.

p.s. The "I could go on" referred to your children's children's children's children's children's children's children's (etc) children.

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